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[Jake Alderson]

I am trying to find full results for the Australian TT meeting held at Longford on March 2nd 1964.
There was a Morgan entered for either Allan Caelli or John Edwards by Team Cerberus and it is believed, from a later 'for sale' advert for the car, that the Morgan finished second in class.
Can anyone tell me if this is correct and any details of the race?
Thanks
Jake Alderson
Morgan historian

[austmcreg]

I am trying to find full results for the Australian TT meeting held at Longford on March 2nd 1964.
There was a Morgan entered for either Allan Caelli or John Edwards by Team Cerberus and it is believed, from a later 'for sale' advert for the car, that the Morgan finished second in class.
Can anyone tell me if this is correct and any details of the race?
Thanks
Jake Alderson
Morgan historian

John Edwards, entered for this occasion only by Tasmanian Morgan distributor Don Gorringe. Yes, second in class but that was a bit academic given the entry. The car was six cylinders, I have been told with Triumph 2 litre engine but I would like more details if anyone can assist. Jake can no doubt advise, but I dont think this was a Morgan production engine at the time. I am sure I have a photo but it is not filed where I thought it was..........

Event 5. Australian Tourist Trophy. 23 laps

Up to 1100cc
10 F.Thomas (NSW) Austin Healey Sprite 1098cc
15 Howard & Sons Racing Team
Les Howard (NSW) Lotus 23 1098cc 4th -2 laps fastest lap 2.57.9
20 Ecurie Rapide
Ralph Terry (Tas) Austin Healey Sprite 948cc 3rd in class -8 laps
45 A.J.Barker
David Price (Tas) Elfin 1089cc 7th -4 laps fastest lap 3.08.3

1101-1500cc
2 Performance Automobiles
John Pooley (Tas) Pooley Mk II 1500cc DNF lap 18 fastest lap 3.28.2
7 Scuderia Veloce
Greg Cusack (NSW) Elfin Mallala 1495cc 3rd -1 lap fastest lap 2.48.4
30 Alan Ling (Tas) Lotus Super 7 1498cc 5th -2 laps fastest lap 3.07.6
114 McGregor Auto Sales
Bill McGregor (Tas) Elfin Ford 1498cc

1501-3000cc
1 Alex Mildren Racing P/L
Frank Gardner (Int) Lotus 23B 1600cc DNF lap 20 fastest lap 2.42.9
3 Donald Gorringe P/L
John Edwards (Tas) Morgan Plus 6 1998cc 6th -4 laps fastest lap 3.15.8
6 Bib Stillwell (Vic) Cooper Monaco 2700cc DISQ fastest lap 2.33.6
17 Ryan Equipment Co
Bryan Thomson (Vic) Elfin Mallala 1900cc 8th -4 laps fastest lap 2.53.9
18 Frank Coad (Vic) Lotus 15 Le Mans 1960cc DISQ fastest lap 2.50.1
27 Bob Curran (Tas) Triumph TR4 2138cc
33 Arthur Hilliard (Tas) Riley Imp Special 2443cc
54 D.J.Power
Brian Higgins (Tas) Elfin Mallala 1900cc
69 Ron Thorp’s Bargain Barn P/L
Ron Thorp (NSW) Aston Martin 2922cc
81 John Mitchell (Tas) MG Holden 2300cc
87 Total Team - Laurie O’Neil (Peterbuilt)
Frank Matich (NSW) Lotus 19B 2600cc 1st 61.18.4 fastest lap 2.33.0
99 Tom Sulman (NSW) Lotus 11 Le Mans 1660cc
111 Team Tyro
Geoff Black Zephyr Special 2400cc
3001cc and over
11 Bob Wright (Tas) Ventura Ford 4600cc
38 Kerry Cox (Tas) Paramount Ford 4457cc
16 Bob Jane Autoland
Bob Jane (Vic) Jaguar 3781cc 2nd -1 lap fastest lap 2.43.3

Rob Saward

[D-Type]

I think that would have been 2nd in class had there been a 2-litre class.

[austmcreg]

I think that would have been 2nd in class had there been a 2-litre class.

No, what I said was correct. He was 6th overall and second in the 1500-3000cc class, behind the overall winner Frank Matich. There were only six classified finishers in that class (two of whom were disqualified despite finishing in front of Edwards on the road and one who was classified despite having retired to the pits).

Rob Saward

[D-Type]

Sorry, I misread it.

[austmcreg]

I am sure I have a photo but it is not filed where I thought it was..........

Not taken in the TT, but another race at same meeting. Edwards' Morgan following David Hallam's E Type.

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Rob Saward

[Ray Bell]

The two disqualifications...

Undoubtedly for not starting on the starter motor?

And would that Mallala have been the Thomson car?

[austmcreg]

The two disqualifications...

Undoubtedly for not starting on the starter motor?

And would that Mallala have been the Thomson car?

Ray, the disqualifications were Bib Stilwell and Frank Coad , yes, both for not starting on starter motor. There were three Elfin Mallalas in the race, which in itself must have been a fairly unusual occurrence, Cusack, Thomson and Brian Higgins in David Price's car.

Rob Saward

[Jake Alderson]

Ray, the disqualifications were Bib Stilwell and Frank Coad , yes, both for not starting on starter motor. There were three Elfin Mallalas in the race, which in itself must have been a fairly unusual occurrence, Cusack, Thomson and Brian Higgins in David Price's car.

Rob Saward

Thanks very much Rob for answering my question in such detail, and with a photo too.
Brilliant!
Jake