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#1 SpeedRacer`

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:38

Bernie on the BBC very strongly hinted that Schumacher is gone at the end of the season:

"It's a shame he couldn't win on his comeback..."

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#2 DutchCruijff

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:38

Oh, oh, oh that hurts.

Edited by DutchCruijff, 02 September 2012 - 11:38.


#3 SCUDmissile

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:38

Bernie seems to think Michael is gone after this season. :cry:
Whatever he does, good luck to him.

#4 Tsarwash

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:38

Game over. Bye Michael.

#5 Lazy

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:39

Bernie seemed to let slip that Schumacheris leaving F1, Merc seat clear for Lewis?

#6 Tsarwash

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:39

Why would Lewis want to move to Mercedes ? Mclaren are stronger than them.

#7 RedBaron

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:40

Berne doesn't know... and if he did he wouldn't break Schumacher's silence on it.

#8 RedBaron

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:40

Berne doesn't know... and if he did he wouldn't break Schumacher's silence on it.

#9 Massa_f1

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:40

Bernie seems to think Michael is gone after this season. :cry:
Whatever he does, good luck to him.


Well we all knew it was coming when the team started to fail him weekend after weekend. All seemed strangley final on the BBC just there.

#10 Longtimefan

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:40

Bernie seems to think Michael is gone after this season. :cry:
Whatever he does, good luck to him.


If that's true I'll be gutted but I can't blame him, who'd want to stay and drive that shitbox of a car.
Another team should phone him ASAP :cry:

#11 F.M.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:40

Bernie Ecclestone hinted very strongly that Schumacher will retire again at the end of this season, saying it's a shame he wasn't a winner in his comeback.
After this comment, Eddie asked him if he knew something the rest of us didn't, he didn't deny anything, just saying "I don't know".

#12 Longtimefan

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:42

I hope he's wrong. :(


#13 pizzalover

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:42

Bernie on the BBC very strongly hinted that Schumacher is gone at the end of the season:

"It's a shame he couldn't win on his comeback..."



Shame Bernie can't use his influence/deep pockets to engineer a Massa, Schumacher swap. I think everyone would like to see it.

#14 tifosiMac

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:42

Bye Michael. The dream was nice at the beginning but you were way past your prime old boy. I enjoyed his friendly, open personality in his second career though and I hope he stick around the sport again as an adviser of some sort.

#15 gm914

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:42

Ignore the dwarf- he's just there to get F1 in the headlines.

#16 Massa

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:45

Oh dear :(

Montezemolo have to take Schumacher just for next year, i would love to see Alonso and Schu together

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:46

Shame Bernie can't use his influence/deep pockets to engineer a Massa, Schumacher swap. I think everyone would like to see it.


He would probably beat Massa, but why bother when there are better, younger prospects? Unless you want a 1 season not-so-glory run.

#18 spacekid

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:50

Berne doesn't know... and if he did he wouldn't break Schumacher's silence on it.


I think he does know - Bernie knows everything - and he likes to have fun. Bernie is very good at plausable deniability. He just leaked the info as a bit of fun for himself and can now say he didn't.

Of course Michael is going. Why would anyone want to continue with the way things are at Mercedes? Ok Michael isn't as good as he used to be, but this season in particular has been an insult to the man.

#19 SCUDmissile

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:50

I would as well.

No disrespect to Merc, but Schu would enjoy it, he has nothing to prove, and he and Alonso have good respect towards each other.

Especially recently. Especially if those Vettel rumours are true for 2014, Michael would be the perfect place to maybe get some better results in his comeback and a good short term option for Ferrari.

If Alonso does win the WDC, imagine a Schu Fer dream team. :love:

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#20 Sakae

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:51

Michael might do exactly as BE says, but then we should not forget that BE sometimes just talks (recent state of CA comes to mind).

#21 Massa

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:52

I would as well.

No disrespect to Merc, but Schu would enjoy it, he has nothing to prove, and he and Alonso have good respect towards each other.

Especially recently. Especially if those Vettel rumours are true for 2014, Michael would be the perfect place to maybe get some better results in his comeback and a good short term option for Ferrari.

If Alonso does win the WDC, imagine a Schu Fer dream team. :love:


Indeed.

It's a win win for Ferrari and Schumi. Schumi with a fast car, and Ferrari with a short term solution for Perez or Vettel.


#22 Jejking

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 12:03

Bernie on the BBC very strongly hinted that Schumacher is gone at the end of the season:

"It's a shame he couldn't win on his comeback..."

What came behind that sentence?

You sure you heard it right?

#23 dav115

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:07

MSC just told the beeb he spoke with Bernie yesterday and told him he still hasn't made his decision :).

#24 chrisblades85

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:10

Bernie also said Sky would never have F1.

#25 pRy

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:12

MSC just told the beeb he spoke with Bernie yesterday and told him he still hasn't made his decision :).


I sensed he wasn't being completely open with that answer he gave. I think the fact he did discuss his future with Bernie yesterday and what Bernie said as a result would seem to suggest he is going. But I hope i'm wrong.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:18

I remember Aus 1991 - The 92 Williams (in effect) being rolled out for practice, and showing devastating pace.

I keep hoping Merc will roll out the "alpha test 1" of their 2013 car before the end of this season, as the vast intelligence they have to combine into it should make for something less dire than their recent efforts. And maybe if MS sees they can actually provide a car that doesn't fall apart, break internally, or simply chew on tyres like I chew on chocolate, he will be encouraged to stay. He clearly has the pace to stay in F1, and at a high level too, but I suspect he needs some incentive (other than the money) to keep pushing himself at this level.

#27 John Player

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:43

Hes just provoking Schumy so that he does exactly the opposite and stays for next year ;)

#28 sharo

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:47

I think it's time Michael makes a hint that Bernie is going to finally retire :)

#29 jals99

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:54

Hulkenberg should replace Shu, he was great today :)


#30 Jejking

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:10

Hulkenberg should replace Shu, he was great today :)

Only if Schumacher is being promoted to a car with a chance to win and actually finish in one piece, that is.

Both drove really well today!

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:16

Hulkenberg should replace Shu, he was great today :)


:up:

The next generation has already arrived!

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:36

Would be a shame, he has shown again that he can mix it with the young ones with the right equipment

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:45

Michael might do exactly as BE says, but then we should not forget that BE sometimes just talks (recent state of CA comes to mind).


Same here. As far as I understand Bernie sent another message to Mercedes this time (to put pressure on them to sign the CA).
Bernie's words usually hide his real intentions.

#34 dau

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 16:14

One small, provocative comment from Bernie and we have another discussion about Schumacher's F1 career all over the media. It's almost like he does it on purpose, isn't it?

#35 Jejking

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 16:39

:up:

The next generation has already arrived!

While the previous generation is still alive and kicking!

#36 panzani

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 16:46

Dick Dastardly is already a former F1 driver. It seems, though, neither him nor his followers did realise that...

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:06

What do you guys make of Bernie's recent remarks about Schumacher's retirement?
Just a joke or serious?

#38 Sakae

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:01

What do you guys make of Bernie's recent remarks about Schumacher's retirement?
Just a joke or serious?

Ignore him.

#39 Tarzaan

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:28

What do you guys make of Bernie's recent remarks about Schumacher's retirement?
Just a joke or serious?



I don't know.

I read today that MS might join the Ferrari in 2013 but I also read he continue with Mercedes.


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#40 ali_M

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:47

Ignore him.


Perhaps BE thinks Schumi is inexorably bound to Mercedes for the rest of his career and since it seems like Mercedes will not continue, then it follows that Michael will not as well....

#41 Sakae

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 11:11

Methinks that BE doesn't know much more on present day what Merc will decide on F1 future than anyone else.

Edited by Sakae, 04 September 2012 - 11:12.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 12:25

Ignore him.

It's sad that I cannot ignore his words in this case. It sounds like Bernie is implying that he failed to reach agreement with Mercedes.
So if Mercedes pull out, it's likely Michael will leave with them, given how dedicated and stubborn Michael is.

#43 Sakae

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 13:11

It's sad that I cannot ignore his words in this case. It sounds like Bernie is implying that he failed to reach agreement with Mercedes.
So if Mercedes pull out, it's likely Michael will leave with them, given how dedicated and stubborn Michael is.

I give you that it doesn't look good from singular point of view that Mercedes team structure remains intact next year, because my instinct is telling me that otherwise we would have confirmation statement already. I tend to however also now subscribe to a notion that we will be introduced to restructured business model in which Mercedes will be shielded from CA by go-between, that is by an entity like rumored AMF F1 or some other business unit, yet behind the scene there will be all company support they need. Whether Michael will be part of that in some shape or form is probably his call. Good feeling I have is that Michael doesn't strike me as someone who is folding up anytime soon.

Edited by Sakae, 04 September 2012 - 13:12.


#44 jjpm

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 13:18

Bernie does imply that Schumacher will retire from F1 and without a victory at that, BUT did he mention a date? NO, so...
but of E.J, DC et al. are going to fly with Schumacher retirement at the end of the 2012. Besides Bernie is known to say anything and its contrary in a fortnight not to mention stirring the pot with Mercedes/FIA and Concorde in mind...

Perso, I believe that he will sign for 2013 (no matter how bad has been 2012 so far) the car has improved, even if not enough comparatively to the others,
and he surely KNOWS more than anybody else what's in store for 2013. I also believe that 2013 will be its definite last season as a driver.

Edited by jjpm, 04 September 2012 - 14:08.


#45 Sakae

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 17:54

My thinking too, but extended thought is, that he will move in 2014 onto an inside, meaningfull, job of some kind as junior manager and on a fast track to better things in Mercedes dynasty.

Edited by Sakae, 04 September 2012 - 17:56.