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#1 Quixotic

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 12:16

Damn........

What is it about racing motorcycles.........

It has been more than 16 years since I last raced a Grand Prix bike of any kind, and more than 10 years since I last threw a leg over any type of motorcycle, yet I found myself trying on my old race leathers the other night, (I looked like a Condom full of peanuts), and after getting the zipper done up...... whew....

In walked the wife. After the laughter died...... she asked me what I was doing. I told her that I was thinking of buying a Historic Race bike to go out and have a little bit of fun on.....

Her response....... "You Bloody Old Fool, don't you remember the crash that finished your racing the last time....... look at you...... you look silly standing there in your little leather suit". she was right.... I did look bloody silly. Time to buy a new set of leathers....... thanks for the idea dear.

Little does she know...... Actually I'm sure she does know, she is not stupid my lady wife, that I have saved the money to either buy a late 60s to early 70s 2 Stroke race bike.

The Race car goes up for sale in the next few weeks.

I know I am not the only one. Looking back through recent Australian Historic Racing results, I was not terribly suprised to see a number of names belonging to people that I raced GP Bikes against, (truth be known, I raced behind them most of the time), in the ARRCs back in the days of the old Shell Oil Series, and then the Shell Advance Series back in the 1980s and 1990s.

Is this something that happens to all old racers? Is it just my Mid Life Crisis kicking in. My body might be 47, but my brain still feels 21. Hmmmm, in retrospect that may be a handicap.

Any sympathy on here?


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#2 Russell Burrows

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 13:14

Just the thought of it frightens the shit out of me....... Loads of old codgers out there though. Laurrie Turnbull must be sixty five if he's a day. Get stuck into it, mate.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:15

There 's 'No Fool Like an Old Fool' :smoking:

So if the worst happens and you finish up in a box early saves 'dribbling' yourself to death in the 'Abidawee Rest Home' for the terminally incontinent. :stoned:

When I went back and did a bit of racing in the 90s (1990s not my 90s YET :confused:) the 'Good Lady' warned me that if I did at last finish my spine off completely that the wheel chair and its' contents would soon be taking a final trip down the embankment of the local motorway. :wave:

Look on the bright side, however, a little classic racing or parading and you've probably more chance of finishing the liver off than anything else. :cool:

Keep us informed.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 22:19

So when do we expect you over in NZ for the Pukekohe Classic Festival in Feb, or the Barry Sheene challenge in October for the Parade/Regularity ( also known as Prune Parades -- think about it ) events ??



#5 exclubracer

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 22:44

Good Man!! :up:

#6 Stu Pidman

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 22:52

At 47 you are still a young man!
As Russell says Laurie Turnbull is no teenager but he is "young" compared to some I know.
I have 2 mates still racing, one at 75 and one at 81.
If you feel like doing it, just do it.
Each year you get a bit older and it all becomes a little harder until one day
it has all become too hard.
I know.

#7 exclubracer

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 00:17

Agree with Stu, I'm 63 and I'll definitely be out next year, not looking to set the world on fire, just to have some fun before I seize up altogether.

Don't forget, you're only old on the outside :D

Edited by exclubracer, 03 September 2012 - 00:17.


#8 Hoofhearted

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:29

I'd kill to be 47 again!! I'll be 67 in a few of months. Its been a long time since I was on the roads or track. But I found land speed racing fills the void. Straight line. Doesn't require any skill (which is good as I have very little) and only has seven meetings a year. Better than sitting in front of the tv listening to your arteries harden.

#9 GD66

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:03

I have just two words for you, Quix....


Ken.


Lucas.


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#10 RC162

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:21

I used to dream about being 47 ! Go and have a great time. Myself and a few friends take some classic bikes to France once a year for a classic track day plus the 1000 Bikes and a bit of CRMC and BHR parading and love every minute of it. Just do it before you get told you never will again.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:58

I never rode anything more powerful than a Honda C90 back in the day, a friend of mine has a two stroke 50 cc NSU that only needs a carb and a bit of tidying up, I'm seriously tempted to take it off his hands for a laugh :rotfl:

Look forward to seeing the pix Quixotic, remember "everything else is just waiting" ?

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 00:32

Re my previous post, I've just sent off an email to the organisers of the Bikers Classics meeting at Spa asking for the details and paperwork for an entry for 2013. I've been to the meeting for the past 4 years as a spectator and to be able to go around the Spa circuit on a race bike would be the ultimate buzz for me!

Many years ago I worked in Belgium for BP and a workmate lent me his FZR600 one Sunday and I spent a full day riding around the old road circuit, how those guys did it at those speeds in the day riding siezy strokers on skinny wooden tyres I'll never know but full marks to them, big balls indeed. :up:

#13 Quixotic

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:36

Interesting to note men...... The Missus has hidden my leathers....... she is now monitoring my internet access as well...... I'll just have to lookk for a bike on the work computer..heh, heh, heh.......

#14 Stu Pidman

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 13:02

Did she hide the ones that had shrunk?

#15 Quixotic

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 13:12

Did she hide the ones that had shrunk?

Yep...... She did not think that one through I think. Looking for new leathers now......


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 20:58

Putting it into the 'old fools' thread may not be appropriate, but Mick Chatterton retired today from racing after competing for 52 years. :clap: :clap:


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 21:54

Putting it into the 'old fools' thread may not be appropriate, but Mick Chatterton retired today from racing after competing for 52 years. :clap: :clap:



Yes , Renn , a fine achievement , well done , Mick :up: , we've had quite a chat on FB tonight on this :wave:


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Posted 10 September 2012 - 20:55

Funnily enough I dug my old Lewis shellsport leathers out from the loft 6 months ago, left em out in the sun to soften up a bit well I got the zip about a 1/3rd of the way up, before I nearly asphixiated myself, oh well will need to aquire a slightly more generous set as I'm planning a few classic track days on these in the near future :D roll on 2013

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#19 GD66

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 21:02

Yum !! I see you have converted both to rhs gearshift, that'll drastically cull those who want to borrow them for a "quick spin"... ;)

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#20 Quixotic

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 03:37

Funnily enough I dug my old Lewis shellsport leathers out from the loft 6 months ago, left em out in the sun to soften up a bit well I got the zip about a 1/3rd of the way up, before I nearly asphixiated myself, oh well will need to aquire a slightly more generous set as I'm planning a few classic track days on these in the near future :D roll on 2013

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Your pics have turned me Kawasaki Green with envy.........

Still looking for the right bike..........

T250 Hustler, Ds7 250' something like that. Even, or should that be especially...... A T500 Titan.



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Posted 18 October 2012 - 18:43

Your pics have turned me Kawasaki Green with envy.........

Still looking for the right bike..........

T250 Hustler, Ds7 250' something like that. Even, or should that be especially...... A T500 Titan.


Here's a couple of bikes I restored several years ago. The DS7 I took to the IOM to see the '87 Manx. Both nice bikes but I liked the extra that the 350 gave you. The YR5 is still about and only 15 miles from where I live. The owner keeps it in very nice condition.

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#22 Quixotic

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 20:29

Nice...... Add some rear sets, chambers, clip ons, a fairing and a race seat, (not one of those little Yamaha ones), a racing fuel tank, some sticky rubber......... And perhaps just a little port work, and it would be exactly the kind of bike I am looking for. These things are getting thin on the ground here.

Still, I will keep looking till I find exactly what I want.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:20

Nice...... Add some rear sets, chambers, clip ons, a fairing and a race seat, (not one of those little Yamaha ones), a racing fuel tank, some sticky rubber......... And perhaps just a little port work, and it would be exactly the kind of bike I am looking for. These things are getting thin on the ground here.

Still, I will keep looking till I find exactly what I want.


Going to look at a T500 based bike this weekend. I have been assured that it is ready to race, and is wickedly quick........ I think we have all heard that before........ :rotfl:

Still, I'd love to be surprised.

Standby.......


#24 Quixotic

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:46

How hard isit to find what I am looking for. Nearly a year later, and no closer to the track. Unfortunately for me I am off on a deployment for the next 8 months or so. Still the money the Army will pay me should help me buy something good.

I am getting too old to be a soldier........but hopefully not too old to be a bike racer......



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:57

Re my previous post, I've just sent off an email to the organisers of the Bikers Classics meeting at Spa asking for the details and paperwork for an entry for 2013. I've been to the meeting for the past 4 years as a spectator and to be able to go around the Spa circuit on a race bike would be the ultimate buzz for me!





How did you get on for an entry, mate ? Only about six weeks to go... :stoned:

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 20:31

How did you get on for an entry, mate ? Only about six weeks to go... :stoned:

A non-starter I'm afraid, Glenn. :rolleyes:

A duff knee means I can't bend it enough to get on a bike. Still having physio so all is not lost for my next racing comeback.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:06

Drat ! But good to hear you're still keen, that's a wicked weekend by all accounts. A mate of mine who's an Emirates pilot has been a couple of times, he was having a ball winging along back towards Blanchimont on a TZ350 thinking he was going ok when Caros Lavado came by under his elbow going around 20 mph quicker, wakey-wakey !

Sheeney used to make his seat higher when recovering from knee injuries, that may help...

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 21:08

Drat ! But good to hear you're still keen, that's a wicked weekend by all accounts. A mate of mine who's an Emirates pilot has been a couple of times, he was having a ball winging along back towards Blanchimont on a TZ350 thinking he was going ok when Caros Lavado came by under his elbow going around 20 mph quicker, wakey-wakey !

Sheeney used to make his seat higher when recovering from knee injuries, that may help...

Thanks Glenn, I'm tall enough to stand some extra seat padding but still no good, further surgery is in the wind and I'm also having some ultrasonic treatment on the advice of a friend who's a professional footballer. I'm hoping... :well:

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 02:01

Well, since I got back from Afghanistan in December, I have been scouring all of the classifieds. I still have not found anything approaching suitable.

Sigh........ The search for a decent competitive 2 stroke historic race bike continues.

I can find any number of 4 stroke ones, but as my racing on bikes was almost exclusively, ( except for a 1972 Benelli Tornado), on 2 stroke GP bikes, I would like to stick with what I know.....

Any leads will be appreciated.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 23:51

Hmmmmmm. I'm sniffing around a 1971 Benelli 2c racer at the moment. It is a lot pricey, but although it is a 125, it has a standard 250 engine with a rebuilt crank that comes with it. I'm a little to large to race 125s any more......

Otherwise I may have to reluctantly come back from the dark side and race a 4 stroke......ugh....

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 20:43

@ suzrg500-Quixotic-(any one)
What year/engine is the Kawasaki pls??
Thanks.......Steve F
The RG hybrid looks 'awsome' (and I HATE that word)

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 20:26

It's a 75 500 H1F engine with just a mild port clean up and some bored carbs 71Hp on the dyno :up:



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Posted 12 July 2014 - 15:08

Ta fa that suzrg500, bit of a weapon then??!!??

#34 Quixotic

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 08:55

Well..... I can't buy what I want so I have started building a Forgotten Era 350cc bike based on a1974 Yamaha Rd350. I've also been training and I am now 8kgs lighter. I can fit in my leathers again. Plus my old passenger from back when I raced sidecars has been watching my progress. The bug has bitten him as well it seems. Now he wants us to get an outfit as well.

My response to that.......HELL YEAH!!!

Now my dilemma is..... Which has priority.

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 08:59

Good for you, John. Have you been up to see Nobby at Hyside? He would be a pretty good ally when knocking up a bike like that...

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 12:02

No.... Neville Lush will take care of the engine for me...... I can do the rest. Just a collection of rusty bits at the moment

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 14:56

Well..... I have done it now........I have done a deal to buy a race bike off of one of the guys who used to absolutely kick my arse out on the track, Craig Trinder.

It is nothing like I was looking for, but will actually fit the bill nicely. It is a Historic Period 6 Yamaha FZR400RR SP. And for the first time since 1988 it's a 4 stroke, (not counting my sidecars though).

Needs a bit of sorting..... But that's half the fun eh.

My wife is going to murder me when she finds out.....

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 15:16

I now have a lot of rd350 bits as well......... Oh well..... Road bike too perhaps

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 23:31

Good for you, mate. Turn-key racing, much better cutting laps on the track than kneeling on the pit garage floor cursing. And P6 is growing by the day. Except with HMRAV, where it's not being so keenly adopted...but it will eventually.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:01

The chassis and engine are 1990..... No doubt, I have checked with Yamaha. The only issue at the moment is that it has modern looking fairings on it. I imagine that it would have to have period correct fairings before I even attempt to get a log book.

The engine is fresh, although it has not been run in yet, despite the fact that it was built 7 years ago. I'll have to go careful there. I'll have to have a look at the suspension as Craig Trinder is..... Ummm errrr lighter than me. I could take to to Hoey engineering here in Adelaide and get them to help me set up the suspension.

First I have to get the bike from the Gold Coast to Adelaide.

It seems to be immaculate, but dusty and a bit neglected. I can sort that out.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 10:29

Got any buddies going to the historic nats at Lakeside, end of September ? Like the Ahern brothers ? They may be able to help with getting it back...

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 10:12

Are you coming over here for the Nationals GD?



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:47

Yes, not riding any more these days but coming over to catch up with Ralph Hannan, Stu and a few other villains from Ye Olden Days.

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 23:05

Got any buddies going to the historic nats at Lakeside, end of September ? Like the Ahern brothers ? They may be able to help with getting it back...



You know.... What a fantastic idea...... I may just send a couple of emails on Monday. Thanks for the idea, I never even thought of that.

I don't know too many people in the classic scene here, but I have been corresponding with Danny Ahern....... I may be able to defray his petrol,(or beer), costs a little bit for doing it for me. I know he has retired the TR3 now, so he may have a spare spot on his trailer.....

Thanks.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 21:38

Well my bike it being picked up be Simon Cook at the historic Championships at Lakeside. Next weekend... Thanks heaps for the idea.....it is costing me half the price of a commercial transport company to get it here.

I have a high powered delivery team dropping the bike at Lakeside for me.. Craig and Steve Trinder, Stu Avant, and one of the Sayles brothers......

A pity I will be stuck in Port Augusta that weekend.

According to Craig Trinder, the bike just needs going through as it has not run for about 7 or 8 years.

I'll let you know how it goes.

My projected return to the track is planned for early next year. I will have to learn to race a 4 stroke after a life of racing 2 stroke GP BIKES. Perhaps I should buy a slipper clutch for it? LOL