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Rate The Belgian GP

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  3. 3 (5 votes [3.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.11%

  4. 4 (4 votes [2.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.48%

  5. 5 (13 votes [8.07%])

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  8. 8 (40 votes [24.84%])

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  9. 9 (21 votes [13.04%])

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  10. 10 (12 votes [7.45%])

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#1 Snic

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:29

Also give your thoughts on the
Best Drive:
Worst Drive:
Best Overtake:
Best Moment:
DRS & Tyres:



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#2 Disgrace

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:35

5. The first corner was most uncomfortable to watch and spoiled the race.

Edited by Disgrace, 02 September 2012 - 14:37.


#3 Seanspeed

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:36

I turned it off after the 1st lap crash, honestly. I'll watch the rest later, but I'm entirely too upset right now.

#4 sumpthy

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:48

Best Drive: Jenson Button
Worst Drive: Romain Grosjean
Best Overtake: Kimi on Schumacher II (though the feed missed a lot to follow Vettel doing nothing)
Best Moment: Charlie Whiting's reaction to Pastor's start
DRS & Tyres: No complaints

#5 Atreiu

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:50

5. The first corner was most uncomfortable to watch and spoiled the race.

Same reasons, but I gave it an 8.

#6 schumimercamg

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:54

Best Drive: Vettel
Worst Drive: Grosjean or DiResta
Best Overtake: Vettel on Webber
Best Moment: Watching Maldonado retire sans front wing
DRS & Tyres: Felt like it was the first race where drivers could really push

#7 DaddyCool

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:54

Spa showed once again is that when you have a proper racing track there's no need for the DRS and tyres gimmick BS.

#8 Longtimefan

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:56

Best Drive: Vettel, Button had it way too easy to give him it.
Worst Drive: Grosjean by a loooooooong way.
Best Overtake: Schumi around the outside of Kimi
Best Moment: Schumi in 2nd place
DRS & Tyres: Tyres crap and DRS not needed as per usual.


#9 PayasYouRace

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:56

I thought it was a pretty good race. Plenty of action though the field throughout.

Also give your thoughts on the
Best Drive:


Button I guess. Simply a perfect race from him.

Worst Drive:


Maldonado I guess. Jump start by a long way and then crashing out after the restart. Just terrible.

Best Overtake:
Best Moment:


Both Kimi taking Micheal into Eau Rouge. Brilliant.

DRS & Tyres:


Both OK I think. DRS wasn't an easy pass for everyone. The type of overtakes seemed a lot like the 1992/93 races that BBC had on the red button. The cars with a straightline speed advantage had the pass done before the corner. Those that didn't struggled to make the pass. Roughly equal cars went side by side into the braking zone.

Can't really fault the tyres at all. None of the two stoppers struggled with them.

#10 gm914

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:59

A potentially epic race from the Saubers destroyed by grosjeans incompetence.
Not to mention taking out the WDC leader. Kimi/Alonso/Hamilton/Vettel battles ruined.
Maldonado once again farcical in whole new ways.
While Button drove superbly, lights to flag with little to no competition is never exciting to watch.
Overall 5/10.

#11 GrosjeanFTW

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 14:59

Best Drive: JB, Vettel or Hulkenberg, superb from all of them, cant choose.
Worst drive: as much as I hate to say it, Grosjean really Buggered that start up, it was as bad as (If not worse) Vettel on Button in Suzuka.
Best overtake: Schumacher fighting was a joy to watch, masterclass from him today, something we rarely see, and them Mercedes ****ed it up for him. :down:
Best moment: Dunno, seeing Alonso getting up was a relief, although i don't know if that was the "best", lets go with Buttons podium interview, hilarious! :D
DRS & Tyres: well the tyres were as unpredictable as usual, so awful in my opinion, and the rarity of the DRS being near perfect happened today. :up:

#12 gm914

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:03

Unfortunate user name my friend.
Unless you mean For The Wreck :lol:

#13 Pendejo

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:05

Best Drive: Vettel or Massa.
Worst Drive: Grosjean
Best Overtake: Kimi on Schumi
Best Moment: Kimi demanding more power on the team radio
DRS & Tyres: Tires were OK this race but DRS not needed

#14 spacekid

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:07

Given that so many major players were taken out of it, the race was surprisingly decent. I love Spa.

Best overtake for me was Seb on Mark because it required tidy driving, he needed to make it, and given the situation in the team he made it work.

Driver of the race probably Seb as well.

DRS was ok, tyres were much better than early in the season - two viable strategies and no ridiculous cliff after 3 laps.

#15 greenman

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:07

8/10 - a pretty good race, but as I mentioned, I'd exchange that "excitement" of the 1st corner for seeing the Saubers, Lewis, Alonso and Grosjean battling it out for the top positions. But there was quite a lot of passing going on, nice battles throughout the field, some excellent drives...

Best driver
I'm gonna give this to Vettel. Of course, Button was flawless as well, but he got a bit lucky with the start, and couldn't be challenged throughout the race. Honourable mention for Nico Hülkenberg.

Worst Driver
Romain Grosjean. I really like the guy, he's very fast, but he can be a bonehead sometimes. Several times this season he's shown that he isn't aware of the drivers around him. I still don't find him as bad as Maldonado (who again made a mistake himself today), but today's move at the start was quite reckless, esp. considering all the space he had on the left.
Having said all of that, I think a lot people here overreact in regards to what his punishment should be... It turned quite horribly today, and it could even be worse, but we've seen people cutting across the other drivers quite a few times, and Grosjean is by no means the only one to have done it. People shouldn't be so quick to call for a ban, just because the consequences of the move were more severe than usual.

Best overtakes
Some of Vettel's passes were very nice, e.g. the one on Webber. Kimi's move on MSC was ballsy as well, though Michael did look ridiculously slow.

Best moment
Hm... Seeing, that everyone was OK after the crash maybe... And Whiting's reaction to Maldonado's jump start was amusing, I agree

DRS & Tyres
Not really a factor, so I'm happy with that.. I thought the DRS zone would be too long, but I guess this being a low downforce track, it doesn't make that much of a difference... Apart of course with some of the cars that were already were slow on the straight

#16 GrosjeanFTW

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:07

Unfortunate user name my friend.
Unless you mean For The Wreck :lol:


:wave:
Yeah, not great.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

#17 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:08

Grosjean ruined what coulda have easily been the race of the year! 3/10 I fell asleep

#18 DanardiF1

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:08

Aside from the scary first corner incident, it was a good race that saw a lot of passing and good racing.

Button was superbly serene at the front.
Best Drive: Button. Super fast when he 'needed' to be, comfortably quick when in 'cruise mode'. Lights to flag for the first time since Monaco 2009, and as good IMO.

Worst Drive: There wasn't much of it, but Maldonado. Jump start, then gets involved with someone after the safety car and exits the race. At at time when he arguably needs even the odd point here and there, he is falling way short. Senna will surely pass him in the standings soon.

Best Overtake: Visually, Raikkonen on Schumacher at Eau Rouge, but the best was probably one of Vettel's several moves at the Bus Stop. He had that move pretty well sorted.

Best Moment: Some of racing between Schumacher/Raikkonen/Hulkenberg etc. was superb, but no particular moment.

DRS & Tyres: Tyres were good, in that the wear patterns didn't seem too artificial, more a consequence of strategy. The split in 1 and 2 stoppers showed that there was good life in the tyres as well as a good useable life, the gap between those being close enough to make teams think. DRS was largely useless, as the slipstream available down Kemmel is good enough.

#19 Wander

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:09

Best Drive: Vettel going through the field for second

Worst drive: Do I even have to say?

Best overtake: There were many good ones today! I think Vergne did a good one on Rosberg.

Best moment: Not sure... The start crash was obviously a terrible moment and kinda overshadows any great moments. Like schumimercamg, I did enjoy seeing Maldonado cock it up once again.

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#20 genius83

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:19

I have give 9/10 even with the first lap incident which takes out 2 championship contenders and also ruins both Saubers race. It still was a good race.

Best Drive: Vettel
Worst Drive: Certainly Grosjean
Best Overtake: Vettel against Michal with Michal going into the pit and Vettel's save
Best Moment: Seeing Alonso coming out of the car, Hamilton point his head with finger telling Grosjean to use brain.
DRS & Tyres: Work near perfectly.

Edited by genius83, 02 September 2012 - 15:20.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:30

I gave it 7 but i was thinking now 7.5 or 8/10

Best Drive: Vettel, Button or Hulkenberg. Vettel had to actually battle for the places and i am a fan so I'll say Vettel
Worst Drive: Grosjean's 'drive' didn't go well. Kovalainen also messy unlike him. ditto Maldonados brief cameo
Best Overtake: Kimi on Schumi or Vettel on Schumi. God, I winced when them 2 locked up. Some skill to avoid a big crash there.
Best Moment: Everyone walking away in T1. Or Glock/Pic battling hard over 15th
DRS/Tyres: About right, I thought DRS would be too easy still but it wasn't always clear pass.

#22 Biggun

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:34

9

Despite my favourite driver going out at turn 1 it was an incredible race

Highlight being Kimi on Schumacher at Eau Rouge

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 15:35

I gave it -37
Best Overtake is Hulkenberg on Schumacher (albeit it looked like Michael had a problem, still very brave)

#24 Fourjays

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 17:48

Gave it a 7. Not the best Spa I've ever seen, although still better than some other tracks. I think it would have been a cracker if not for the first lap incident...

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 17:50

Best Drive: Nico Hülkenberg and Jenson Button
Worst Drive: Grosjean
Best Overtake: Vettel outside moves in the chicane and Nico Hülkenberg on Schumacher
Best Moment: no injuries after the start crash
DRS & Tyres: fine

Edited by seahawk, 02 September 2012 - 17:51.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:02

Gave it a 10, cos I'm hopelessly biased when Button wins  ;)

Best Drive: Dominant lights to flag race from Button, was fantastic to watch. Honourable mention for the strong performances from Vettel and Hulk as well.
Worst Drive: I don't think Grosjean even got to change gears, but those 10 seconds were awful. Dishonourable mention to Maldonado for more general awfulness.
Best Overtake: Raikkonen on Schumi at Eau Rouge.
Best Moment: Button finally getting back on the top step, together with Glock and Pic battling hard.
DRS & Tyres: All seemed well.



#27 Sakae

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:02

Best driver: Vettel; honourable mention for Nico Hülkenberg and Michael Schumacher

Worst Driver: Narain Karthikeyan

Best overtakes: All of them were very racey

Best moment for me: Sebastian making a statement when he took on Webber; just one for the books

DRS & Tires: Ok in this race


#28 DanardiF1

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:05

Best driver: Vettel; honourable mention for Nico Hülkenberg and Michael Schumacher

Worst Driver: Narain Karthikeyan

Best overtakes: All of them were very racey

Best moment for me: Sebastian making a statement when he took on Webber; just one for the books

DRS & Tires: Ok in this race


What did Narain do wrong? His wheelnut was cross-threaded, and that caused the accident. Frankly it must've taken some skill to get that far round the lap like that in the first place...

#29 Lord_Shaitan

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:06

Best Drive: Hulk

Worst Drive: Kovalainen

Best Overtake: Raikkonen before Eau Rouge

Best Moment: Pastor's falstart :rotfl:

DRS & Tyres: Positive influence on racing

Edited by Lord_Shaitan, 02 September 2012 - 18:08.


#30 WatchingF1since4yearsold

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:09

8/10 for the race itself, good one, had it all really apart from a battle for the lead but personally not bothered by that as im a big Button fan :D

best drive: Button, faultless from start to finish for a great win for him :)

worst drive: toss up between Grosjean for that awful crash at the start and Maldonado for his usual awful driving.

best moment: Button crossing the line to complete a great win!

DRS & Tyres: DRS was a bit too effective at times tbh though made for some good racing, tyres seemed less random today which is good

#31 Afterburner

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:13

A ten from me--I thought it was the best race since Valencia.

Best Drive: Either Button or Vettel.
Worst Drive: Probably either Grosjean or Maldonado.
Best Overtake: Handily Raikkonen on Schumacher through Eau Rouge. The battle between Vettel and Schumi at the pitlane entrance was entertaining as well.
Best Moment: Hard to say--there were a lot of good ones albeit one very bad one at the start.
DRS & Tyres: This is the balance they need to look for in the coming races. The two-stopper could've been a little more competitive, though.

#32 zachary2142

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:20

Absolutely loved the race. 8/10.

#33 SpaMaster

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:20

This is as good as it gets. The legend that is Spa always produces the best action. Thanks to Raikkonen, Vettel, Hulkenberg, Schumacher and B.Senna who contributed to it. Forget the DRS zone, but one could see how many opportunities there are to overtake - Bus stop, s3 straight, La Source, Les-Combes-Malmedy, Malmedy-Rivage..

Best Drive: Raikkonen. Hustling the car throughout, both while being alone as well amongst other cars, with compromised set-up, KERS issue, gimmee-full-power, etc. Closely followed by Schumacher. How did the old man fight for podium at one podium is beyond me. Incredible fight by Schumacher. Great drive by Vettel as well. Doing lot of smooth overtakes (one or two cynics still saying he cannot overtake should disappear now, he put on a show today). Having said that his car allowed him to do that a bit better than Raikkonen and Schumacher, and the car/driver combo has to take responsibility for yesterday's qualy result as well which put him far behind in the first place. Hulkenberg too. Very impressive.

Worst Drive: Grosjean

Best Overtake: Raikkonen on MS. Although Vettel could make a case by sheer volume.

Best Moment: Alonso walking off

DRS & Tyres: DRS is total sham racing, always been. Teams, FiA and CWC selling their soul for money. Tyres - the best things to have happened to F1 in a long time. Brought back disparity between qualy and race, quintessential feature of good racing.

#34 Fastcake

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:21

What did Narain do wrong? His wheelnut was cross-threaded, and that caused the accident. Frankly it must've taken some skill to get that far round the lap like that in the first place...


Well it's not like he showed any sort of talent - worst driver applies to him every race anyway.

Edited by Fastcake, 02 September 2012 - 18:21.


#35 Sakae

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:22

What did Narain do wrong? His wheelnut was cross-threaded, and that caused the accident. Frankly it must've taken some skill to get that far round the lap like that in the first place...

Well, this is an opinion poll, and your question falls under a different thread. Let me merely say it's not just this race that makes me think that he is in wrong series.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:24

Well it's not like he showed any sort of talent - worst driver applies to him every race anyway.


I find that whilst judging performance, it should be based in the context of expectations. Karthikeyan hasn't done a bad job this year, and better drivers have creamed into him rather than vice versa. This was the first race he fell out of by himself.

Edit: turns out it was indeed a wheel, so he has had four DNFs through four technical faults.

Edited by Disgrace, 02 September 2012 - 18:55.


#37 King Six

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:26

Wow, so many people upset and didn't even watch the race.

Best Drive: Button, Vettel or Hulkenberg.
Worst Drive: Grosjean, Maldonado
Best Overtake: Raikkonen on Schumacher below Eau Rouge (if my memory serves me correct)
Best Moment: Generally speaking the four-way battle between Schumacher, Kimi, Nico and Webber (with Massa catching them)
DRS & Tyres: Sometimes DRS made things rather easy. Tyres behaved well.

I'd give the race 7.9/10. It loses some points because Hamilton, Alonso wasn't there and Sauber could have provided something special.

#38 WorldDomination

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:28

I turned it off after the 1st lap crash, honestly. I'll watch the rest later, but I'm entirely too upset right now.

Been following this forum for years. Feels good to read something like this from seanspeed.

#39 WorldDomination

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:35

Best Drive: Hulk
Worst Drive: Kovalainen

Yeah. Grosjean did so good you didn't have to mention him. At least we don't have to watch him race next weekend.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 18:36


Best Drive: Button was supreme, able to drive it home from lap 1. Didn't put a foot wrong all day. But, Vettel made up so many places with some great overtaking and took a well deserved podium. Probably the most exciting driver of the day and have his WDC hopes a massive boost.

Mercedes engines were a winner today. It's just a shame for Merc Engines that they only power one good team. McLaren-Force India-Mercedes AMG were running the top 3 early on until Force India faded and Merc AMG showed what a shockingly bad car they have constructed.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 20:56

Best Drive: Vettel
Worst Drive: Grosjean
Best Overtake: Raikkonen on Schumacher
Best Moment: Alonso describing Maldonado's jump start.
Tyres&DRS: Tyres were fine but DRS was not needed.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 21:07

Best Drive: Vettel
Worst Drive: Grosjean
Best Overtake: Raikkonen on Schumacher at Eau Rouge
Best Moment: Raikkonen, " give me more power!"
DRS & Tyres: Ok

#43 choyothe

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 21:10

Best Drive: Vettel clearly

Worst Drive: Grosjean I guess

Best Overtake: Most spectacular: Kimi on MS, Technically most impressive: the one of Seb's overtakes into the Bus Stop where the overtakee had the pace closest to him, so that is Webber I think

Best Moment: Ickx interviewing Kimi :lol:

Tyres&DRS: tyres were okay, DRS-zone too long still, Spa doesn't really need that help.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 21:34

5/10
F1 isn't the sme without Alonso and Hamilton. Grosjean also killed his own race and my enjoyment for a race I have been looking forward to.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 22:10

I must confess I was quite upset about the RG crash, taking out FA, LH, SP, ruining other people's races, but I sat through the entire race and it was quite entertaining, gave it a 7. Not much strategy or tires, DRS etc, just racing and great overtakes. :up:

Best Drive: Button (Flawless), Vettel (worked his way through the field), Hülkenberg (stayed competitive)
Worst Drive: Rosberg, Maldonado, Grosjean
Best Overtake: Kimi on Shumi, Vettel on Webber, Grosjean on LH,FA.. oh wait.
Best Moment: Williams fending off RB's lackluster top speed, no injuries on initial crash, lewis carrying wing leftovers
Worst Moment: 1st corner crash, various pit lane incidents
Tyres&DRS: at bay, good

#46 midgrid

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 22:16

Well it's not like he showed any sort of talent - worst driver applies to him every race anyway.


Karthikeyan had good race pace and kept Pic and De la Rosa (who was admittedly delayed at the start) behind him until a few laps before he had his wheel problem. Surely that's not worse than Grosjean and Maldonado's antics?

Anyway, I give this race a seven - lots of action throughout the field (and nice to see the backmarkers fighting for a change), but Button was unchallenged throughout and I think the race suffered due to the removal of several leading runners at the first corner.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 22:25

Best Drive: Button
Worst Drive: Maldonado
Best Overtake: Vettel on Webber
Best Moment: Kimi taking Schumi at Eau Rouge or Schumi & Vettel at Bus stop.
DRS & Tyres: Meh.