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[D.M.N.]

ianparkesf1
Romain Grosjean handed a one- race ban following first corner crash, Lotus confirm
4:41 PM - 2 Sep 12

[olliek88]

Grosjean gets one race ban, that seems very harsh!

Edited by olliek88, 02 September 2012 - 15:44.

[Baddoer]

Looks like an opportunity for Jerome!

[King Six]

Probably fair, he has had plenty of first lap/corner incidents. Funny though how Maldonado has done plenty of stupid things and has never been close to getting a punishment like this though. I said it before, once someone takes out Alonso, only then will the FIA react. Maldonado has been lucky not to tangle with Alonso yet.

[vas04614]

Looks like an opportunity for Jerome!

Is that allowed?

[swerved]

Can't really say that its undeserved, I wonder if it will also serve as a shot across the bows of Maldonado.

[Muppetmad]

Crazy; a visceral knee-jerk reaction.

[Darth Sidious]

Fair decision.

He can be a bull in a china shop at a go-kart track next weekend.

[TheWilliamzer]

Finally we'll see what D'Ambrosio can do.

[P123]

Grosjean gets one race ban

Seriously? That seems harsh. I assume they must be taking some of his other starts into consideration, but I can't remember him be hugely to blame in any of the others. First to face that punishment since Hakkinen in '94.

[pacificquay]

Excellent news.

I was remarking in chat today that this would be the best way to punish him.

It was used quite a bit in the 94 season.

Look forward to seeing what J d'Am can do in the Lotus and hopefully it will calm Grosjean down.

[ixnay]

Wow. Maldonado one lucky guy!

[hotstickyslick]

Totally deserved.

[BigWicks]

Nonsense decision

[xAtarigeekx]

Soo, d'Ambrosio in for Monza?

[Coral]

It's very harsh but fair. Grosjean has had incidents like this far too often...he needs to learn his lesson.

[fieraku]

About freaking time

[King Six]

Are Lotus allowed to replace him with Jerome? What's the point then?

[wj_gibson]

Everyone is saying "great for Jerome" but is there not a distinct possibility that Williams might lend out Bottas to Lotus for the race instead?

[vas04614]

Wow. Maldonado one lucky guy!

MAL gets 5+5 places penalty for monza

[Les]

Nonsense decision

No can't agree at all. He's had more than a few similar incidents and due to the serious nature of the accident he caused then I think its a just decision.

[Disgrace]

Ridiculous if true. Maldonado deliberately ramming drivers off under non-racing conditions is a much more serious breach of code than Grosjean making a mistake under racing conditions regardless of the seriousness of the end result and prior incidences.

[kosmos]

They should have done it with Maldonado (some races ago) to send a signal for those who can get the memo like Grosjean. Now it's done and it's clear for everyone how they have to behave at the start, maybe it's a little too harsh but it has to be done, a driver could have die today or end up with really bad injuries.

Edited by kosmos, 02 September 2012 - 15:49.

[weston]

Good. It was the right time.

[Rakaman]

Deserved. In the part of the form where they fill in the reason for the ban they need to write "Being an idiot."

Three feet are the reason Fernando Alonso still has a head. He dodged a bullet today.

[whoisjohngalt]

...didn't help RG's cause that it involved two title contenders. Very high profile.

[KavB]

It's very harsh but fair. Grosjean has had incidents like this far too often...he needs to learn his lesson.

I agree. If Monaco never happened then this may be overly harsh, despite the seriousness of the incident but he blew his second chance.

Edited by KavB, 02 September 2012 - 15:49.

[study]

This should have done it with Maldonado (some races ago) to send a signal for those who can get the memo like Grosjean. Now it's done and it's clear for everyone how they have to behave at the start, maybe it's a little too harsh but it has to be done, a driver could have die today or end up with really bad injuries.

10 place grid drop for Maldo

[xAtarigeekx]

Are Lotus allowed to replace him with Jerome? What's the point then?

Punishing the driver, not the team

[Dalton007]

Deserved. What he did was ridiculous. Crazy driving.

[ixnay]

More meant that he was only given place penalties when I think Maldonado deserved the ban long ago.

[Mackey]

Well, I think thats a bit harsh on Roman, but seeing as he nearly killed Alonso and it´ll teach him a lesson i´m ok with it.

[chrisblades85]

Maldonado crashes because he tries to hard and doesn't give up, so losing control of the car and slides into the other car. Grow John gets one for bein a ****.

[natureboy]

Fair decision - 4 drivers (at least) saw their races ruined to Grosjeans stupidity.

And Maldonando?

[King Six]

Ridiculous if true. Maldonado deliberately ramming drivers off under non-racing conditions is a much more serious breach of code than Grosjean making a mistake under racing conditions regardless of the seriousness of the end result and prior incidences.

I called it a long time ago, until Maldonado shunts Alonso he won't get anything. Grosjean has made mistakes too, undoubtedly, but this time he made the gravest of them all... of course, I'm just being a conspiracy nut, and today's crash was pretty bad, but

[bub]

Can't complain. That was a very dangerous incident today and he's been less than careful in the past also.

[Disgrace]

Is that allowed?

Frentzen replaced Massa at the USGP in 2002 the last time a driver was banned.

[superdelphinus]

Can the team still run two cars?

[OO7]

Grosjean gets one race ban, that seems very harsh!

I agree. I wasn't expecting that. I thought it deserved perhaps a 5 - 10 place drop for Monza and was disappointed during the race when there was no message of it being investigated. I think the stewards want to put their foot down on this, as what Romain did was completely unnecessary.

[Diablobb81]

Not surprised but then Maldo has to consider himself very lucky.

[D.M.N.]

Three previous occasions come into mind regarding big first corner crashes in the dry.

- 1989 French Grand Prix - no action.
- 1994 German Grand Prix - Mika Hakkinen banned for one race.
- 2002 Australian Grand Prix - no action.

[TomNokoe]

I wonder who issued race ban, FIA or stewards? Grosjean will be pissed seeing as people have done similar and got away with it, but he still deserves it.

[xAtarigeekx]

I'm glad the stewards finally laid the law down. Maybe it is a little harsh on Grosjean, but they had to make an example out of someone eventually. Maldonado should have been banned before for deliberately driving into people, and there has been far too much chopping and running people off the track in the last few years, especially at the start of races. Maybe this will make the drivers think slightly now.

[Ross Stonefeld]

Excellent decision, but let's not overhype the danger to Alonso. It really wasn't that close to him and we've seen much worse close-calls.

[King Six]

Punishing the driver, not the team

But they are one and the same. Hence the point of the joint WDC and WCC championships. A driver is a member of the team just like anyone else. For example if a driver is given a punishment because the team did something bad in the pitlane, it's accepted, because everyone is in it together. Likewise, when a driver does something stupid, it should be a team ban (as in, no replacements).

Edited by King Six, 02 September 2012 - 15:52.

[drag]

Its good for him if true,Maldonado deserved the same after Monaco free practice accident with Perez,he didnt get ban and he had more crashes after ..... hope this ban will make him think and act like a grown man.

[TheNewStig]

100 % nonsens.
What will come next?

[Kvothe]

Very harsh.

[TheWilliamzer]

Maldonado was sent in a 180° by Perez when the latter was hit by RG. damage to the rear right. He's a victim too.

[xAtarigeekx]

But they are one and the same. Hence the point of the joint WDC and WCC championships. A driver is a member of the team just like anyone else. For example if a driver is given a punishment because the team did something bad in the pitlane, it's accepted, because everyone is in it together. Likewise, when a driver does something stupid, it should be a team ban (as in, no replacements).

I take your point, but in the past it's been allowable to replace a banned driver.

Edited by xAtarigeekx, 02 September 2012 - 15:53.