When any idiot could have guessed that qualifying is the key to 2012 specially as it helps keeps the tires in good shape when you are not in traffic and overtaking being tough in certain circuits. Our friends at Maranello chose to prioritize race pace over qualifying. The results are on the wall. Whilst race pace is good, they are left getting a rubbing in qualifying. You know why?
Both qualifying and race pace are important – but what good is being quick over one lap when there are 40 or more race laps? You only have to look at Mercedes early in the season to see that going all out for qualifying is not the way to go – they were quite competitive in the first races yet went backwards as they munched their tyres- the only exception being China where temps were much lower. McLaren had a similar issue – strong qualifying pace and yet, excluding Australia, they struggled for race pace, especially in the heat - Valencia anyone?
Whilst it is desirable to have both but if you can have only one then race pace is the way to go. That said it is disappointing to see that Ferrari have not cracked that nut.
Caz when teams like Lotus (albeit unsucessfuly) and RBR were busy introducing DDRS to optimize their qualifying and reduce their outright speed deficit, Ferrari was busy testing front wings/rear wings that didnt work!
So, basically, you think Ferrari should have spent time, money, effort and resources in developing a DDRS system and not on wings that ‘don’t work’?
The mind boggles how you figured that one out.
Not only do you admit that only one team have it working (Red Bull) and the other (Lotus) has failed to get it working satisfactorily you also admit that the Ferrari wings ‘don’t work’. What you conveniently neglect is that Mercedes, who ‘pioneered’ the DDRS and had since day one have, bar China and Monaco, been practically nowhere.
Let me ask you this – if we can’t get our wings to work then how on earth do you think that we will get a DDRS system to work?
As you know there are problems with the wind tunnel (which are well documented) and if those are causing the ‘simple’ updates we bring to fail then what do you think will happen with a far more complex DDRS system is developed in it?
That’s right, it won’t bring the benefits that one expect or, worst case, not work at all. I for one am glad they have not pissed money up a tree like Lotus have on a DDRS especially when we have far more fundamental issues. As someone else said Lotus’s development have gone backwards arseing about with DDRS.
Granted - it can bring benefits but when nothing else is working you really are barking up the wrong tree.
Its pure luck they led so far, now its time for them to be humbled. And no matter how much his voice rubs salts to the wounds, you might as well get used to Vettels post race win cheering!
Yawn, yet another ‘it’s all luck ‘ comment. I am tired of this horseshit.
People really are blind or wilfully obtuse. The car was shit, really shit, for the first four or five races and then when the major updates came we saw an upturn in form. Anyone with two eyes could see it – ok so we were not the dominant force but we were there at the front fighting for good points.
Ferrari led for so long because Ferrari developed the car and got it to be competitive. Yes we have benefitted from others misfortune but we should not apologise for this are we supposed to do – hold back and say ‘No, no. After you’?
They cant hide behind excuses anymore. First it used to be they had a dog of a car pre-season so cut them some slack they came so far. Now it is, remember they had a dog of a car. Come on.... they had a dog of a car, caz they made one. They were RESPONSIBLE for it. They were helped by others misfortune to be in a position to lead. They did well to produce good updates at Spa and had a chance to be the class of the field. But again they were outdeveloped, and outraced. You cant go back and give an excuse they had a dog of a car. They had one of the best cars on the grid in Spa and again due to their own slack they are where they are.
No one gave that excuse that it is a dog of car. This guff has been perpetuated and repeated ad-nauseum on this forum.
The car was crap for the first 4/5 races but after that it was much improved. However it has been clear for some time that the car has issues in certain configurations – in particular traction and low speed downforce. Certain tracks, or even particular sectors, on a track highlight these deficiencies – Hungary highlighted these for example.
Ferrari did have one of the better cars around Spa, but it certainly wasn’t the best. The car was much more competitive around Monza but for a mechanical issue for Alonso in Q3 its full pace could not be shown.
When they produced a good car in Spa they didnt say corelation in wind tunnel was bad. No, they said things are fixed. They were left behind by competition, again its a wind tunnel problem. Its not a problem of wind tunnel, its just them not being bold enough/fast enough or efficient enough.
This is also drivel.
LDM came out the other day and said that wind tunnel results sometimes correlate well and sometimes not. They believed they had fixed it and they haven’t - shit happens.
That said it has been obvious for some time to most Ferrari fans that this has been the case with the testing and subsequent re-testing of wings (most notably the front one).
Be it race strategy on the field or their designing off the field, they are conservative at best. No DDRS, no blown exhausts, no complex maps... just same old same old hoping for a better result, guess what, it AINT WORKING!!!
Conservative at best? I take it you have not bothered to actually look at the work that they put into the car have you?
The car had a similar concept to the McLaren exhaust solution. Admittedly the first iteration did not work, but once we adopted the McLaren system, it worked much better. I assume that you think the McLaren system is equally conservative or unimaginative.
Cooling, which was an integral part of the original exhaust solution, is also much improved on this car and this is obvious by looking at the rads which are much smaller than previous years and smacks of anything but conservative.
Strategy has actually been much improved this year, though there have been brain fades such as Canada, but then even the great Red Bull were caught out in the same way there.