Formula 1 Gran Premio Santander d'Italia 2012 - Race day
#1
Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:58
With Alonso down in tenth, this race is a big opportunity for all the other title combatants chasing him, and they will all want to dig into his lead as much as possible.
With a long run down to the first corner, the chicane, the order can be shaken up and indeed that has happened very often! Then again, the winner here usually has started from pole.
McLaren and Ferrari are likely to be the quickest cars also in the race, and a lot of extra pressure is now on Massa's shoulders, as his job now is to limit the possible damage being made to his team-mate's points lead. I think he'll be as aggressive as always and won't be afraid to stick his nose on the inside. Massa is a good starter so he might even lead going into the chicane....
-Can a two-stopper work here ths year?
-Will the Mercedes have a similar role in the race as last year?
-What can Räikkönen do, and will the warmer temps today help them as much, relatively speaking, here as on other tracks?
-Maldonado 22nd on the grid, right in the middle of a possible first corner chaos....
#3
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:11
(i can dream,can't i..;) )
#4
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:12
#5
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:13
Alonso fighting through to 5th.
Clean race PLEASE.
#6
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:13
#7
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:17
ditto...Just hoping for clean first corner
though i doubt it will happen...;)
Edited by aray, 09 September 2012 - 08:20.
#8
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:18
McLaren double podium.
Alonso fighting through to 5th.
Clean race PLEASE.
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Hamilton-victory!
Alonso's finishing position will be very much decided by how he does at the start, and lap one. He could well take three-four cars, and then with the performance the car has this weekend, he could also finish higher than fifth. If he doesn't manage to jump anyone at the start, or even drops a place, it'll mean a tougher day obviously.
Intrigued to see DiResta does, and also if Webber can salvage something.
And of course, how the McLaren-pair solves things in lap one.
#9
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:18
#10
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:22
#11
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:24
I think we can safely forget the past. Pirelli made sure of it. It's a new day, and all bets are off.
Don't expect too much overtaking, this is going to be an old school 1-stop race the tyres may as well be Bridgestones. Can't wait
#12
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:24
Just like the old days.. Ferrari vs. McLaren
As a Ferrari fan, going up against McLaren for the win is when F1 is at its most exciting.
I have not been this excited for a race since 2008.
#13
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:34
#14
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:41
#15
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:42
I am hesitant to declare it as fortunate or unfortunate, but based on Spa performance, I fear that AMG is most likely on two stops race. There is only one week between races, and nothing much has changed.Don't expect too much overtaking, this is going to be an old school 1-stop race the tyres may as well be Bridgestones. Can't wait
#16
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:55
#17
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:00
As a Ferrari fan, going up against McLaren for the win is when F1 is at its most exciting.
I have not been this excited for a race since 2008.
Singapore 2010 mate
#18
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:00
Don't expect too much overtaking, this is going to be an old school 1-stop race the tyres may as well be Bridgestones. Can't wait
I hope the whiners are happy.
#19
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:06
GO Mclaren. Go Lewis. Go Kimi.
A classic Mclaren Vs Ferrari. And what a better place to have a front low lockout than the Tifosi heartland. Come on guys, lets silence the crowd into despair today. Lets rule at the Ferrari camp. The war is on, we are going to conquer the Red Mist today!
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#20
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:14
Maldonado could well be 1st by turn 1 depending on how much he chooses to jump the start by.
Good of you to assume he will complete the parade lap....
#21
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:16
#22
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:16
Lewis Hamilton for a victory with Jenson Button and Raikkonen finishing the poduim. Alonso should finish the top 5 and a serious dent into his championship lead. Not to forget Vettel, who I think should be looking for a 4th place today.
That wouldn't be a serious dent though, it'd be maybe 5 points less than before today.
#23
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:22
#24
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:22
This is a whole new level, buddy. COME ON FELIPE!Singapore 2010 mate
#25
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:28
The RB may not have good top speed but the cars are geared very strongly for the race, I suspect they will be strong today and could capitalize on any mishaps around them.
I hope for a clean and uneventful first corner.
#26
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:29
#27
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:31
I do not understand that rule. The way I read it is, that in the race drivers should not be leaving the track with all four wheels (two are OK). The ambiguity (or confusing part for me) is what follows, if they do.I see driver after driver going over the astroturf through Ascari with 4 wheels out of track. Is there a momerandum that they can get away with it?
Almost everyone on this BB suggested last time (Vettel v. Button) they cannot leave track and gain advantage, whereas I am reading it as they cannot leave track with all four wheels under any circumstances during the race under normal racing conditions. Problem for me was, that wording by stewards against Vettel certainly didn't help when I compared their document against normative references.
Vettel deem to gain advantage, said document, whereas I thought it should say, Vettel left the track with all four wheel, and in process also gained advantage in doing so. (Which I doubt that he did, but that's different subject and topic. Offense was - he left the track).
Edited by Sakae, 09 September 2012 - 09:33.
#28
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:40
#29
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:41
I see driver after driver going over the astroturf through Ascari with 4 wheels out of track. Is there a momerandum that they can get away with it?
Yeah, stewards said ok.
#30
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:43
Maldonado could well be 1st by turn 1 depending on how much he chooses to jump the start by.
Go Pastor!
#31
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:46
Maldonado could well be 1st by turn 1 depending on how much he chooses to jump the start by.
If he decides to do an Alesi?
#32
Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:53
The Red Bulls is going to pay for low top speed and without a really good setup, they will probably be sitting ducks on the straights
#33
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:18
If he decides to do an Alesi?
haha wtf Jean! What did he have to say about that?
#34
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:24
It will be interesting to see if Lewis is determined to sit out the first corner with him and risk contact, or if he will be more circumspect and think of the WDC/WCC.
If Felipe manages to get in front, sending the stands into an insane frenzy, it will be quite difficult for anyone else to get past him...unless he makes an unforced error.
Should be an exciting race, regardless.
FORZA FERRARI!
#35
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:29
Rolling start straight from the warm-up lap?Maldonado could well be 1st by turn 1 depending on how much he chooses to jump the start by.
Edit: I see that's already been covered
Edited by beancounter, 09 September 2012 - 10:33.
#36
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:37
#37
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:37
#38
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:41
#39
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:48
hahaha....You made my day mate...Great one!!!!!!...Maldonado could well be 1st by turn 1 depending on how much he chooses to jump the start by.
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#40
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:03
#41
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:04
Is it me or McLaren's latest Tooned episode was a dig at Hamilton? I might be reading too much.
I would have been slightly uncomfortable with it.
#42
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:10
Is it me or McLaren's latest Tooned episode was a dig at Hamilton? I might be reading too much.
Haven't seen it yet, but I doubt that really, as they were made some time ago I believe.
(Tooned on youtube is a mess; episode three is sometimes actually number two and so forth....)
#43
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:10
Just like the old days.. Ferrari vs. McLaren
Call me a snob but it does seem that races are a bigger deal when its like that.
#44
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:13
One stop or two stop, even with hard as nail tyres Pirelli seem to have made the teams think.
Andy
Edited by Andy35, 09 September 2012 - 11:14.
#45
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:14
Snob..........Call me a snob but it does seem that races are a bigger deal when its like that.
#46
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:14
Yup, but gladly these days of two dominating teams are over.Just like the old days.. Ferrari vs. McLaren
#47
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:15
#48
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:18
#49
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:20
#50
Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:22
Exactly. They were doing a far more better job than the Official time screen. For that, they were banned and we were forced to buy App version of it, which is way too much better than the computer version. Greedy bas**rds.Just clicked on http://f1timing.povarnitsyn.ru/ which I have been using for Live Timing info over the last few races, but it has now been closed down "at the request of Formula One World Championship Limited". Shame. It was really useful the way it was laid out.