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#1351 study

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 09:55

:rolleyes: Lewis has always shown interest in the cars data

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#1352 fed up

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 09:55

I'm pretty sure the environment in Mclaren isn't the best at this moment. This setup mistake right now isn´t a coincidence.


Yep.

It's all down hill from now guys :|

#1353 fed up

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 09:58

Hamilton shows alarming interest in McLaren Formula 1 car data

:rotfl:


Tweeting the telemetry data did seem a bit suspicious to me as there really was no need to go overboard in trying to explain a difference in speed to the lay person, most of which wouldn't understand how to interpret the numbers.

#1354 TomNokoe

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:11

Why of why did they have to start chasing setup. If he was a couple of tenths faster than Button then there's no reason why he couldn't have taken second today. ah man.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:14

Why of why did they have to start chasing setup. If he was a couple of tenths faster than Button then there's no reason why he couldn't have taken second today. ah man.

And when was that exactly?

#1356 F1FAN013

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:27

I'm very pessimistic about Hamilton's chances in this race. He's starting on tyres which are five laps in it cycle. It can be a difficult place to overtake with DRS and Kers available. I hope I am proven wrong but it might be a tough afternoon. :( I hope the race set-up on that Mclaren is good.

#1357 Atreiu

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:27

Lewis is over a hundred GP starts now. Getting the wrong wing and setup is exactly what he shouldnt let slip by at this stage of things. He wont get a free ticket tomorrow and have both Alonso and Vettel DNF...

#1358 10e10

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:36

Lewis is over a hundred GP starts now. Getting the wrong wing and setup is exactly what he shouldnt let slip by at this stage of things. He wont get a free ticket tomorrow and have both Alonso and Vettel DNF...


Then what about Jenson's problems from China until Germany? And he has more than 200 gps...

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:41

Then what about Jenson's problems from China until Germany? And he has more than 200 gps...

:lol: ,that doesn't count... Bashing is only allowed when it's for Lewis...

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#1360 Alx09

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:43

Well, I think the setup error rules out WDC. :(

#1361 Sinceref189

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:47

Well, I think the setup error rules out WDC. :(

Yep done and dusted it's over unfortunately , hope he has a good race tomorrow and that he can win in the next couple of races.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:52

Lewis is over a hundred GP starts now. Getting the wrong wing and setup is exactly what he shouldnt let slip by at this stage of things. He wont get a free ticket tomorrow and have both Alonso and Vettel DNF...


LOL what about Jenson earlier in the year then (over 200gp) and this is the real world you can't be perfect all the time , you have no idea how sensitive car setups are these days. Some times more than most lewis usually gets the setup right . Today obviously not ,these things happen move on dust yourself off and look towards the race.

#1363 robefc

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:56

full 10 min interview with Lee

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/19826361

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:13

As much as i want im to win and do well, today i feel like pressure is off WDC isnt going to happen I think Vettel now has it in the bag. Lets hope he can win a few more this season and we can enjoy them.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:17

:lol: ,that doesn't count... Bashing is only allowed when it's for Lewis...


:up:

#1366 TheWilliamzer

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:28

1 second off Button! :/

#1367 race addicted

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 12:21

This is borderline inexcusable by Hamilton and his engineers! It would've been bad enough had this happened at the first GP, but now!

I can only hope the track somehow comes to Lewis' set-up, and that he flies tomorrow.

#1368 f1fastestlap

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 12:29

1 second off Button! :/


With used tyres :/

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 13:27

Wtf.


Wake me up when it's 2013.

#1370 garoidb

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 13:28

As much as i want im to win and do well, today i feel like pressure is off WDC isnt going to happen I think Vettel now has it in the bag. Lets hope he can win a few more this season and we can enjoy them.


I posted something like this in another thread too: Lewis is only 23 points behind Vettel with 6 races to go. That might increase tomorrow, but surely Lewis could hope to limit the damage to another 10 or 12 points. So, let's say around 35 points behind with 5 races to go - a win and a fifth place. That kind of gap has been recovered before.

I know Alonso is further ahead right now, but IMO he can't stay ahead of Vettel much longer unless they find more performance.

#1371 SR388

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 13:29

Wtf.


Wake me up when it's 2013.

#1372 Vic Vega

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 13:33

Lewis Hamilton fears he will not be able to make much progress in the Japanese Grand Prix after a "huge" set-up mistake left him only ninth in qualifying

Maybe he should consult with his favourite ex team mate, whether it's the same set-up mistake as in Brazil in 2007 (the type of set-up mistake that causes you to have a slower FL than Nakajima)?

#1373 LH08WDC

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 13:43

Maybe he should consult with his favourite ex team mate, whether it's the same set-up mistake as in Brazil in 2007 (the type of set-up mistake that causes you to have a slower FL than Nakajima)?


Nakajima didn't race in 2007......

#1374 Vic Vega

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 13:51

Nakajima didn't race in 2007......

Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them along with this slice of humble pie, that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark "egg on your face".

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Edited by Vic Vega, 06 October 2012 - 13:52.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 13:51

Nakajima didn't race in 2007......


He did race in the 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix. It was his debut.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 14:55

full 10 min interview with Lee

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/19826361


Great interview. One thong i find kinda wierd is how lewis kept on mentioning he wanted a new challenge, i would have thought his main challenge was to win more championships.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 15:04

If McLaren are trying to screw Lewis on purpose just like they did to Alonso then f*ck me that is funny :lol: Alonso being 0.6 sec off Hamilton in Chinese qualifying and a full second slower per lap off the Ferrari's in Brazil that year - at a relatively simple track where half of it is flat-out... and a lap takes less than 75 seconds. Now all of a sudden Lewis goes from P1 in Singapore to... P9???? If McLaren really has done something like that... then my goodness how unprofessional. But it wouldn't surprise me if the rest of their season was spent trying to make Jenson look great, especially since RBR will run away with the WCC tomorrow anyways...

I really understand why Kimi kept silent about signing for Ferrari now...

Edited by jeze, 06 October 2012 - 15:07.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:00

Just by coincidence, on the same week he signs for Mercedes Hamilton has suddenly become very interested in the technical side of the MP4-27, much to the amusement of the McLaren team.

"The last stretch of Lewis Hamilton’s McLaren career has not started well, according to The Independent newspaper.

The report cites McLaren insiders in claiming the Briton has taken a “newfound interest” in the technical details of his 2012 McLaren now that he has decided to jump ship to Mercedes next year.
“He’s been very interested in the exhaust system and the telemetry,” a team insider is quoted as saying.

And Hamilton told reporters on Thursday that he knows all about McLaren’s plans for the 2013 single seater that he will never drive.
"


http://www.independe...st-3251223.html

http://www.inautonew...ch#.UHBiL66OhRc

Edited by Misk, 06 October 2012 - 17:00.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:02

If Kimi hadn't have wrecked the end of Q3.... there's no doubt in my mind that Lewis would be on the front row...

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:06

If Kimi hadn't have wrecked the end of Q3.... there's no doubt in my mind that Lewis would be on the front row...

New to F1 I presume??
Hammy was already .5 behind after his first sector lol
He was nowhere today and fears tomorrow won't be any better, according to the man himself that is

#1381 tarmac

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:07

The whole helping to "build a team" is just nonsense. He cant actually believe in it?

Maybe when there was 24/7 testing and tailor made tyres to a top team it was 50% true..

#1382 Zoetrope

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:08

If Kimi hadn't have wrecked the end of Q3.... there's no doubt in my mind that Lewis would be on the front row...


Looking from Grandstand perspective, there are only 2 rows :smoking:

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:24

The whole helping to "build a team" is just nonsense. He cant actually believe in it?


+1 :drunk:

just like they did to Alonso


http://i.imgur.com/DaNej.jpg

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:30

The whole helping to "build a team" is just nonsense. He cant actually believe in it?

Maybe when there was 24/7 testing and tailor made tyres to a top team it was 50% true..


No ... I bought it for a while ... but the reality is that the move to Merc is (surpringly given how well he started in F1) a necessity rather than a real choice for him.

IMHO of course

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:31

The whole helping to "build a team" is just nonsense. He cant actually believe in it?

Maybe when there was 24/7 testing and tailor made tyres to a top team it was 50% true..


Wtf is wrong with people like you just because you see it as black & white doesn't mean others do ,People just love to nit pick on lewis and i know why . He wants a challenge , he wants a new approach wtf is wrong with that, it will develop him as driver and as a person. What is wrong for someone trying to make a change , its like the guy can always do wrong, it sickenings me.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:36

Just by coincidence, on the same week he signs for Mercedes Hamilton has suddenly become very interested in the technical side of the MP4-27, much to the amusement of the McLaren team.

"The last stretch of Lewis Hamilton’s McLaren career has not started well, according to The Independent newspaper.

The report cites McLaren insiders in claiming the Briton has taken a “newfound interest” in the technical details of his 2012 McLaren now that he has decided to jump ship to Mercedes next year.
“He’s been very interested in the exhaust system and the telemetry,” a team insider is quoted as saying.

And Hamilton told reporters on Thursday that he knows all about McLaren’s plans for the 2013 single seater that he will never drive.
"


http://www.independe...st-3251223.html

http://www.inautonew...ch#.UHBiL66OhRc


I'm quite certain McLaren not need to worry as long as there's no actual papers, pictures or digital data involved.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:43

Well if he doesn't get onto the podium tomorrow he has zero chance of the WDC imo, and if that happens it is looking more and more like Vettel' third championship on the trot. That is something I really don't want to happen. I can't really understand how he got set up so wrong.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 17:57

The whole helping to "build a team" is just nonsense. He cant actually believe in it?


I think it's an excuse so he doesn't have to say the truth, and the real reason for leaving: that McLaren will never win another championship as long as they are run the way they are.

#1389 Zoony

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:01

If Lewis 'wants a challenge' and 'wants to build a team'... Why didn't he sign for HRT?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:16

Just by coincidence, on the same week he signs for Mercedes Hamilton has suddenly become very interested in the technical side of the MP4-27, much to the amusement of the McLaren team.

"The last stretch of Lewis Hamilton’s McLaren career has not started well, according to The Independent newspaper.

The report cites McLaren insiders in claiming the Briton has taken a “newfound interest” in the technical details of his 2012 McLaren now that he has decided to jump ship to Mercedes next year.
“He’s been very interested in the exhaust system and the telemetry,” a team insider is quoted as saying.

And Hamilton told reporters on Thursday that he knows all about McLaren’s plans for the 2013 single seater that he will never drive.
"


http://www.independe...st-3251223.html

http://www.inautonew...ch#.UHBiL66OhRc

What a lovely way to repay the team that's helped you since you were 13 :well:

#1391 garoidb

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:17

The whole helping to "build a team" is just nonsense. He cant actually believe in it?

Maybe when there was 24/7 testing and tailor made tyres to a top team it was 50% true..


He may, but it makes no difference. I guess that he was impressed by some aspects of the future plans of the Mercedes F1 team, whether in terms of facilities, technical staff, engine plans or whatever. He must have some sense that the team will be better in the future, or else he is wasting his time.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:24

What a lovely way to repay the team that's helped you since you were 13 :well:


You might actually want to watch the drivers press conference from Thursday to put things in context. If it suits you, that is.

I mean it's unheard of for drivers to take plans to other teams, right? I was under the impression that when a driver left a team they had their memory erased MIB III style to prevent such things happening. :well:

Seriously.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:27

If Lewis 'wants a challenge' and 'wants to build a team'... Why didn't he sign for HRT?


Why didnt he sign for a GP2 team?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:28

Just by coincidence, on the same week he signs for Mercedes Hamilton has suddenly become very interested in the technical side of the MP4-27, much to the amusement of the McLaren team.

"The last stretch of Lewis Hamilton’s McLaren career has not started well, according to The Independent newspaper.

The report cites McLaren insiders in claiming the Briton has taken a “newfound interest” in the technical details of his 2012 McLaren now that he has decided to jump ship to Mercedes next year.
“He’s been very interested in the exhaust system and the telemetry,” a team insider is quoted as saying.

And Hamilton told reporters on Thursday that he knows all about McLaren’s plans for the 2013 single seater that he will never drive.
"


http://www.independe...st-3251223.html

http://www.inautonew...ch#.UHBiL66OhRc


I think it's a pretty safe assumption that Hamilton would rather retire than ever drive for McLaren again. It's a mystery how such a great team can piss off so many drivers... even Räikkönen basically had to be carried out of Ferrari mind :smoking:




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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:33

If Lewis 'wants a challenge' and 'wants to build a team'... Why didn't he sign for HRT?

Good grief! :eek: ..Maybe he should of just started his own team instead eh!

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:35

I think it's a pretty safe assumption that Hamilton would rather retire than ever drive for McLaren again. It's a mystery how such a great team can piss off so many drivers... even Räikkönen basically had to be carried out of Ferrari mind :smoking:


McLaren seem to like their employees devoid of character, everyone must conform. They're F1's equivalent of The Borg. And I have a feeling that Hamilton, Alonso, Raikkonen etc, didn't fancy being assimilated.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:38

If Lewis 'wants a challenge' and 'wants to build a team'... Why didn't he sign for HRT?

:lol: :rotfl:

Kudos to you guys.

#1398 10e10

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:41

I think it's a pretty safe assumption that Hamilton would rather retire than ever drive for McLaren again. It's a mystery how such a great team can piss off so many drivers... even Räikkönen basically had to be carried out of Ferrari mind :smoking:


Why do you say that? He implied in the interview that we would like to return one day, the whole "don't burn down the bridge" story.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:43

Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them along with this slice of humble pie, that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark "egg on your face".

Click.


Whoops error on my part. I apologize.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:44

If Lewis 'wants a challenge' and 'wants to build a team'... Why didn't he sign for HRT?


It's only a challenge if you feel it is possible. HRT winning the WDC aint possible in the next three years!