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"Hamilton agrees terms for a move to Mercedes" - Eddie Jordan


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Poll: Poll started on September 14th, 2012. (465 member(s) have cast votes)

Which team will Lewis Hamilton drive for in 2013?

  1. McLaren. (234 votes [50.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.43%

  2. Mercedes. (205 votes [44.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.18%

  3. Ferrari. (13 votes [2.80%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.80%

  4. Lotus. (12 votes [2.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.59%

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#3501 Les

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 00:45

That's what he did, I quoted the the line above that indicated that's exactly what he did, as well as basically copying and pasting all the information from the telegraph article.

I see debate or the nature of the point I'm trying to make is utterly lost on you, I won't bother again.


Its alright man no need to have forum rage! Just personally feel certain that Lewis will join Mercedes and that I can trust journalists like Cooper. Indeed its not a final conformation but we'll find out tomorrow.

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#3502 ali.unal

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 00:49

Hardly just because you disagree with my stance on waiting on further sources doesn't mean you have to take cheap shots.

Having read some of your posts in the past I thought you were above that but clearly not.

I'm going to reiterate, I'm not saying it isn't happening, I'm just stating that I'm waiting for further sources and explained why.

That was a joke. Humor can help everything.

Scepticism and suspicion are always welcomed, but yours' now are in the border of being an ostrich having own head in the sand. You should know as much as me that before each and every big announcement, there has always been a "set to bla bla" insider fed story. Today's euphoria seems to be related to Hamilton's news. I don't think so many journalists would have reported it like it was set in stone and even begin to contemplate McLaren's choices. The tone has changed now, you should see it.

You can still wait for your official results, but do not discredit the people, who are working in the F1 and have lots phone numbers in their phone book.

Edited by ali.unal, 28 September 2012 - 00:53.


#3503 Kvothe

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 00:51

Its alright man no need to have forum rage! Just personally feel certain that Lewis will join Mercedes and that I can trust journalists like Cooper. Indeed its not a final conformation but we'll find out tomorrow.


No forum rage here, just disagreement and an unwillingness to accept cheap shots.

finished?

#3504 Les

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 00:52

No forum rage here, just disagreement and an unwillingness to accept cheap shots.

finished?


No never started, its all fun you know!

#3505 pinkypants

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 00:57

Not sure how I feel about this..

at the moment, with the way McLaren are doing now, it's hard to see it as just a big mistake :/

#3506 TheUltimateWorrier

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 00:58

Ferrari & Red Bull are going to have a big party today because this will hurt both McLaren AND Hamilton pretty hard and even worse thing for McLaren is that they can't find suitable replacement for Hamilton, the only hope is Kimi Raikkonen.

Kimi is McLaren's saviour in this time of need ? What rubbish. If the story is true, this is an opportunity for Perez/DiResta/Hulkenberg/etc. to prove their worth much like Kimi had in 2002 and then Hamilton in 2007.

Edited by TheUltimateWorrier, 28 September 2012 - 00:59.


#3507 Kvothe

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:02

That was joke. Humour can help everything.

Scepticism and suspicion are always welcomed, but yours' now are in the border of being an ostrich having own head in the sand. You should know as much as me that before each and every big announcement, there has always been a "set to bla bla" insider fed story. Today's euphoria seems to be related to Hamilton's news. I don't think so many journalists would have reported it like it was set in stone and even begin to contemplate McLaren's choices. The tone has changed now, you should see it.

You can still wait for your official results, but do not discredit the people, who are working in the F1 and have lots phone numbers in their phone book.



Please don't be so dramatic, we've had three national newspapers report it, without either sources or quotes,two of which are tabloids which also published the Nicole and Chris Brown story.

I'm hardly burying my head in the sand by awaiting more sources especially when none have arrived in the time we have been discussing this. I also find it highly annoying you would suggest so and make it seem as if scepticism in regards to anything that is reported by the media is a negative thing, I in fact would suggest that if more did the same the media wouldn't wield the power and influence it does, but that's a topic for a different thread.

Yes I will wait for the official confirmation thank you, and I'm hardly discrediting them just the methods and the way they have conveyed the story which so far haven't been enough to make me believe that the move is happening. I apologise if this has offended you.

Edited by Kvothe, 28 September 2012 - 01:03.


#3508 Slowinfastout

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:09

:eek:
http://www.guardian....lton-formulaone

#3509 ali.unal

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:14

Now we can see how fast Nico Rosberg really is. Terrific news I say from the spectator's point of view.

#3510 Dolph

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:16

I just don't get it. Hamilton is moving to Mercedes because Mercedes has a better chance of taking the title? Has he not been paying attention for the last three years?

#3511 Dolph

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:20

Its gonna be painful, I say. Watching Alonso trundling around in the 2008 & 2009 Renault car was just pure pain. Now we are in for some similar pain with Hamilton.

#3512 ali.unal

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:21

I pray and hope Hamilton won't go down to Villeneuve's way. Too big of a talent to be wasted.

#3513 Dolph

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:21

I'm just horrified. It's like Villeneuve going to BAR for more money, except the money is the same.

#3514 kissTheApex

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:22

It will definitely be interesting to see how he does in Mercedes if the reports are true. It may be "character building years" if next years' Mercedes challenger is anything like the last three.

#3515 Lamag

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:24

I just don't get it. Hamilton is moving to Mercedes because Mercedes has a better chance of taking the title? Has he not been paying attention for the last three years?


What about McLaren? How many titles has they won during the last four years with Hamilton onboard?

#3516 Dolph

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:26

It will definitely be interesting to see how he does in Mercedes if the reports are true. It may be "character building years" if next years' Mercedes challenger is anything like the last three.


Hamilton has a very weak character to be honest.

#3517 Dolph

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:30

What about McLaren? How many titles has they won during the last four years with Hamilton onboard?


That's another point I'd like to make. Hamilton challenged for the title in 2007, 2008, 2010. That's three years out of five he has been in serious contention. I have to say that when he didn't win in 2007 & 2010 it was really down to the mistakes he himself made.

The Honda-Brawn-Mercedes team at the same time took one title and has otherwise been just nowhere championship wise.

#3518 tarmac

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:31

Perez is way too up and down but there isnt much available

Perez could win races but winning the championship is..

Edited by tarmac, 28 September 2012 - 01:38.


#3519 showtime

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:33

Now we can see how fast Nico Rosberg really is. Terrific news I say from the spectator's point of view.


Indeed :clap:

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#3520 xAtarigeekx

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:44

I think we're all missing the worst part about all this...

...which is that Eddie Jordan was right.

:|

Edited by xAtarigeekx, 28 September 2012 - 01:45.


#3521 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:45

What about McLaren? How many titles has they won during the last four years with Hamilton onboard?



They've at least been in the fight.

#3522 MarcelBrDirani

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:55

Now we can see how fast Nico Rosberg really is. Terrific news I say from the spectator's point of view.


The guy has been there for 6-7 years and as far as i know, has not been treated like number two driver, so we know how good and fast he is.

Can Nico beat Lewis? Yes, JB has done it once, despite beeing not so great. But it is quite obvious that Lewis is faster and better driver.

#3523 travbrad

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:57

I think we're all missing the worst part about all this...

...which is that Eddie Jordan was right.

:|


:lol: A broken watch is right twice a day.

#3524 SR388

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:03

If the reports that I am reading are true he will get $100,000,000.00 over three years. That's a lot of cheddar.

#3525 Woody3says

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:08

$100mil seems WAY too high. Maybe the late 90s early 2000s but not in 2013..... That would pay one driver as much as the bottom 1-2 teams budgets for one year!

#3526 Obi Offiah

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:16

Assuming the stories are correct, I hope ego wasn't involved in the decision.

#3527 SNiko

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:45

If the reports that I am reading are true he will get $100,000,000.00 over three years. That's a lot of cheddar.


Is this just salary or salary + sponsors?

#3528 SR388

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:50

Is this just salary or salary + sponsors?


Apparently both.

#3529 Bruce

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:51

Assuming the stories are correct, I hope ego wasn't involved in the decision.


When has lewis made a decision where his ego wasn't involved? :p

#3530 SNiko

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:35

Apparently both.


Then he can have the same in McLaren, or even more, as McLaren is in much better form than Mercedes, and Hamilton will have much more chances to win WDC and attract new sponsors.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:12

Then he can have the same in McLaren, or even more, as McLaren is in much better form than Mercedes, and Hamilton will have much more chances to win WDC and attract new sponsors.

:rolleyes:
Mclaren restrict personal sponsors and that is one of the vital reason why Lewis leaving...

#3532 nemtudom

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:24

OK, I'm starting to believe it now - I hope they do announce it today. Personally, as a more or less neutral fan, I'd like to see Hamilton at Mercedes, I'm really curious how this will turn out. The lack of success in recent years doesn't mean Mercedes will never be able to build a winning car, especially with the 2014 regs, so I wouldn't say "this is the biggest mistake Lewis has ever made" yet.

Anyway, I don't think he's principally leaving for money, I guess he's not been perfectly happy at McLaren recently and wants a change. No matter what Hamilton and Whitmarsh have been saying about their relationship ("it's never been closer" bla bla), it's been quite obvious for some time that something is not quite right.

#3533 SNiko

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:07

:rolleyes:
Mclaren restrict personal sponsors and that is one of the vital reason why Lewis leaving...


In 2008 McLaren made an exception and allowed him to have personal sponsors. So, this is not a reason at all.

#3534 Elloh

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:31

Eddie Jordan, the man that knows everything! :smoking:

Edited by Elloh, 28 September 2012 - 05:32.


#3535 Bartel

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:33

If Lewis' 'decision' was based on championship winning ability then he is just straight out lying. If hes gone, hes gone for the money nothing else. He will regret the hell out of this in a years time.

#3536 OSX

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:34

In 2008 McLaren made an exception and allowed him to have personal sponsors. So, this is not a reason at all.

The reason for the move is XIX combined with Hamilton's vanity.

#3537 aray

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:41

In 2008 McLaren made an exception and allowed him to have personal sponsors. So, this is not a reason at all.

then why that factor have been so prominent in all the reports that we are getting.??..sure all the journos are not lying...nobody refuted that from macca or lewis camp either...so he must have had some restrictions regarding those personal sponsors which goes beyond normal restriction that every team enforce(not getting a sponsor directly in competition against a team sponsor)...

#3538 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:50

There have been further developments and it is being discussed here
Please take discussion there

#3539 garoidb

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:50

:rolleyes:
Mclaren restrict personal sponsors and that is one of the vital reason why Lewis leaving...


Just to make the point that they do that for a good reason. The team is fully funded by sponsors. It would not make sense to have sponsorship conflicts to any great degree, or to have to compete with their own driver for funds.

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#3540 motorhead

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:56

Well, at least now he has unlimited amount of Mercedes necklaces for his homies...

#3541 D.M.N.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:08

Please continue ongoing discussion here: http://forums.autosp...howtopic=174806