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#51 Fastcake

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 18:23

Why'd you book your holidays before the calendar was officialarised! :confused: :stoned:

You know what the FIA are like, they'll make minor changes to anything provisional just because they can. I'm intrigued as to the reasonings behind all this, though. Such as switching Japan with Korea.

Edit: Grand Prix of Jersey sounds much better than Grand Prix of the Americas or whatever the hell it's called. But ideally it would be United States Grand Prix East and United States Grand Prix South


Please no, I hated those old names :(

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#52 Louis Mr. F1

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 18:40

anyone else thinking of doing a Montreal & New Jersey double header?

#53 Rob

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 22:49

Grand Prix of Jersey sounds much better than Grand Prix of the Americas or whatever the hell it's called.

I think Jersey will be very surprised to find that they've got a race, being an island in the English Channel. :)

#54 Mandzipop

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 23:02

Why'd you book your holidays before the calendar was officialarised! :confused: :stoned:

You know what the FIA are like, they'll make minor changes to anything provisional just because they can. I'm intrigued as to the reasonings behind all this, though. Such as switching Japan with Korea.

Edit: Grand Prix of Jersey sounds much better than Grand Prix of the Americas or whatever the hell it's called. But ideally it would be United States Grand Prix East and United States Grand Prix South



Due to work, I had to book my holidays last Tuesday.

I booked 3 weeks to cover any potential of moving wither Spa or Monza.

I didn't expect them to move Spa due to the enforced 4 week break. Which is now 3 weeks.

#55 gerry nassar

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 23:50

Due to work, I had to book my holidays last Tuesday.

I booked 3 weeks to cover any potential of moving wither Spa or Monza.

I didn't expect them to move Spa due to the enforced 4 week break. Which is now 3 weeks.


Can't you ask your employer to change it? Sounds harsh that you can't.

Otherwise - sick days...


#56 Mandzipop

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 23:55

Can't you ask your employer to change it? Sounds harsh that you can't.

Otherwise - sick days...


There is more of a chance of the FIA changing it than my employer.

The FIA might have to change it because I think there might be complaints from the teams as they are supposed to have a 4 week holiday. The new calendar says 3 weeks. The calendar is actually against the rules, so the dates may have to change.

#57 Rob29

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 06:33

I think Jersey will be very surprised to find that they've got a race, being an island in the English Channel. :)

I think most Americans when they see 'Jersey' will think of the the place oposite New York?
There never was a USGB South.the US West was hardly ever used by promoters of Long Beach.New Jersey certainly looks more promising than the middle of the Texas desert :wave:

#58 Juggles

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 06:56

There is more of a chance of the FIA changing it than my employer.

The FIA might have to change it because I think there might be complaints from the teams as they are supposed to have a 4 week holiday. The new calendar says 3 weeks. The calendar is actually against the rules, so the dates may have to change.


28 July (Hungary) - 25 August (Spa) is four weeks. Is that four week holiday supposed to exclude an extra week to prepare for Spa, i.e. making the summer break five weeks? If they do make it a week later then I might be able to go so I hope for your sake and mine they change it.

#59 TimRTC

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:11

I am particularly disappointed that both the European double-headers (Hungary/Germany and Belgium/Italy) are now two weeks apart. I was hoping to do a double-bill in one holiday.

Edited by TimRTC, 01 October 2012 - 15:15.


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#60 BRG

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 17:04

I think Jersey will be very surprised to find that they've got a race, being an island in the English Channel. :)

I don't see why. Bahrain is an island in the Gulf and they've got a GP unfortunately. Jersey has a rally and a hill climb, and it is a tax haven, where Bernie keeps severla of his shell companies, so it would be ideal!

And the event in NEW Jersey is looking distinctly rocky anyway.



#61 Louis Mr. F1

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 17:41

I am particularly disappointed that both the European double-headers (Hungary/Germany and Belgium/Italy) are now two weeks apart. I was hoping to do a double-bill in one holiday.


I'm glad that I did the double header of Germany & Hungary last year - both races won by McLaren. And this year when I attended the Canadian GP, they won again, McLaren should consider paying me to attend all 20 races .:clap:

#62 MrMontecarlo

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 18:05

Is it Nurburgring or Hockenheim in Germany?

#63 Risil

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 18:13

Trick question. The Nurburgring and Hockenheim are both in Germany.

#64 KingB

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 18:14

yeah normally it would be the Nürburgring. But it still isn't clear whether they will race there due to the financial problems...

#65 Red17

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 13:24

yeah normally it would be the Nürburgring. But it still isn't clear whether they will race there due to the financial problems...

Wasnt the new deal about splitting the bill with rotation?
By that logic next year should be the Nurburgring (south).

#66 showtime

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 14:20

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The FIA WMSC have moved the date of the German GP to 7th July and reserved the 21st July for another European Event subject to agreements


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 14:53

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The FIA WMSC have moved the date of the German GP to 7th July and reserved the 21st July for another European Event subject to agreements


bit of a kick in the bollocks for goodwood then

#68 D.M.N.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 15:02

Joe Saward raises the possibility of the A1 Ring (now the Red Bull Ring) making a return: http://joesaward.wor...-it-be-austria/

#69 lustigson

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 15:10

Joe Saward raises the possibility of the A1 Ring (now the Red Bull Ring) making a return: http://joesaward.wor...-it-be-austria/

Plausible, I guess.

#70 Muppetmad

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 15:10

Joe Saward raises the possibility of the A1 Ring (now the Red Bull Ring) making a return: http://joesaward.wor...-it-be-austria/


I hope it is, the RBR is a super circuit.

#71 MatParker116

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 15:16

Race 20 looks likely to be Turkey:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/20614283

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 15:46

Race 20 looks likely to be Turkey:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/20614283


Hope so! That's a good track.

#73 Anja

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 15:48

I'd take Austria over Turkey any time.

#74 OoxLox

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 15:54

I'd take Austria over Turkey any time.


Ah, but the lure of Istanbul means I might be able to swing that as a holiday with the wife and take in a GP at the same time. Some of us need tactics like that if we can't justify spending a lot for just a trip to a GP alone  ;)

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 15:59

I hope it is, the RBR is a super circuit.


The name just sucks...more RB in F1...great...

#76 LiJu914

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 16:00

Is the German GP even fixed yet?

IIRC Nürburgring is bankrupt and it was unsure whether Hockenheim would step in.

#77 Les

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 16:19

Either Austria or Turkey would be welcome back in my book.

#78 Rob

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 16:33

MotoGP had previously moved the German round at the Sachsenring from the 14th to the 7th so that it wouldn't clash with the F1 race. Now F1 have moved their round, they are clashing once more. D'oh!

#79 Phil Lee

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 16:41

Moving the German Grand Prix forward rather throws a spanner in the works for the Festival of Speed.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 17:32

Would prefer to see a return to Austria than Turkey, the problem in Turkey isn't the racing or the track but the lack of fans.

Put that circuit elsewhere (say France or Spain or even Abu Dhabi) and it would be considered a modern classic track.

Edited by toxicfusion, 05 December 2012 - 17:33.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 18:00

Wouldn't a French Grand Prix be more likely at this point than Turkey?

Unless that was just all talk as usual.

#82 Les

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 18:41

Would prefer to see a return to Austria than Turkey, the problem in Turkey isn't the racing or the track but the lack of fans.

Put that circuit elsewhere (say France or Spain or even Abu Dhabi) and it would be considered a modern classic track.


The new promoter at Istanbul is apparently guaranteeing 50,000 fans and is hopeful of getting 80,000 through the door. Sounds a bit optimistic to me!

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 18:41

Moving the German Grand Prix forward rather throws a spanner in the works for the Festival of Speed.


bit of a kick in the bollocks for goodwood then


It's the one weekend when I'll be happy to record the race.

It'll be interesting to see if attendance is down, I know many folk do go to Goodwood to see the modern machinery.

Edited by Tombstone, 05 December 2012 - 18:42.


#84 Fastcake

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 18:58

Wouldn't a French Grand Prix be more likely at this point than Turkey?

Unless that was just all talk as usual.


The plans for French Grand Prix seem to have fallen apart, while there is apparently someone willing to revive the race in Istanbul.

I'll welcome back either Austria or Turkey :)

#85 William Hunt

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 19:36

Would like to see a GP at Portimao in Portugal but unlikely to materialise.
I guess it's between Austria and Turkey with France off the radar, maybe Qatar, although not in Europe, still has a shot too.

#86 William Hunt

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 19:38

No valencia :clap:


It may not be the most beautiful circuit but one of the best F1 races this year was at Valencia...
I actually find Barcelona a more boring track.

Edited by William Hunt, 05 December 2012 - 19:39.


#87 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 20:10

Would like to see a GP at Portimao in Portugal but unlikely to materialise.
I guess it's between Austria and Turkey with France off the radar, maybe Qatar, although not in Europe, still has a shot too.


Er, no. Qatar isn't in Europe. They've said a European race. Therefore why would Qatar have a shot at a 2013 race as a replacement for New Jersey?

#88 KingB

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 20:42

Moving the German Grand Prix forward rather throws a spanner in the works for the Festival of Speed.

not only that...

this is also the date of the German Grand Prix in Moto GP...
additionally it is the date of DTM race at the Norisring (highlight of the season)

Three German highlights at the same date....I expect some further changes

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 21:04

Joe Saward raises the possibility of the A1 Ring (now the Red Bull Ring) making a return: http://joesaward.wor...-it-be-austria/

Hmm I'd like the Red Bull Ring to be included
They sort of have earned a proper home race after their success the last 3 years
Plus it's not that far from here and in nice surroundings ;)

#90 evol88

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 21:17

Aw not not the A1 ring. I thought we got rid of that place a decade ago. It's worse the the Hungaroring FFS!

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:35

Austin trying to nick season finale by swapping with Brasil!

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/104741

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 11:22

Austin trying to nick season finale by swapping with Brasil!

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/104741

I'd be happy with that - plus Austin is more in primetime for European viewers so may be an incentive to put to Bernie.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 14:06

I'd be happy with that - plus Austin is more in primetime for European viewers so may be an incentive to put to Bernie.


Nothing beats the Brazilian title decider though!

If this happens, I will be hoping that it still goes down to the wire, earlier, in Brazil!

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 13:34

A wonderful assessment of the machinations going on within the inner sanctum of F1
http://www.motorspor...cheduling-woes/

Jp

#95 eronrules

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 13:39

Bernie Quashes Austria rumors


"I have spoken to no one about it," Ecclestone told Kleine Zeitung.

"Right now I'm thinking about Turkey to return to Istanbul."

Ecclestone also highlighted that lodging in Austria is a problem and added that it was not essential for the 20th race slot to be filled next year, adding that he expects to make a final decision "early next week".

"Right now I rather think that we will go in to next year with only 19 Grand Prix. That would be no problem for Formula One."


now knowing bernie, i'd say that there is now a 'Strong' possibility that Austria may be on 2013 calender cause he 'Strongly' denied it. :p

#96 Felix

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 14:04

A wonderful assessment of the machinations going on within the inner sanctum of F1
http://www.motorspor...cheduling-woes/

Jp


Actually little different to

http://plus.autospor...ula-1-calendar/

and a week later

#97 jonpollak

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 14:29

Nigel's is WAY more entertaining Felix.
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#98 Felix

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 14:42

Nigel's is WAY more entertaining Felix.
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Paraphrase of your question to Sonny:

You read both?



#99 jonpollak

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 15:30

Cross thread alert !!!
Love it

Yes I have
Deiter's is too dry for me
I prefer Nigel's
Jp

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#100 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 16:31

Confirmed as 19 races. The calendar is now as follows:

01 2013 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX (Melbourne) 15 - 17 Mar
02 2013 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIA GRAND PRIX (Kuala Lumpur) 22 - 24 Mar
03 2013 FORMULA 1 UBS CHINESE GRAND PRIX (Shanghai) 12 - 14 Apr
04 2013 FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX (Sakhir) 19 - 21 Apr
05 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2013 (Catalunya) 10 - 12 May
06 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2013 (Monte Carlo) 23 - 26 May
07 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2013 (Montréal) 07 - 09 Jun
08 2013 FORMULA 1 BRITISH GRAND PRIX (Silverstone) 28 - 30 Jun
09 FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS VON DEUTSCHLAND 2013 (Nürburgring) 05 - 07 Jul
10 FORMULA 1 MAGYAR NAGYDÍJ 2013 (Budapest) 26 - 28 Jul
11 2013 FORMULA 1 SHELL BELGIAN GRAND PRIX (Spa-Francorchamps) 23 - 25 Aug
12 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA 2013 (Monza) 06 - 08 Sep
13 2013 FORMULA 1 SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX (Singapore) 20 - 22 Sep
14 2013 FORMULA 1 KOREAN GRAND PRIX (Yeongam) 04 - 06 Oct
15 2013 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX (Suzuka) 11 - 13 Oct
16 2013 FORMULA 1 AIRTEL INDIAN GRAND PRIX (New Delhi) 25 - 27 Oct
17 2013 FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX (Yas Marina) 01 - 03 Nov
18 2013 FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX (Austin) 15 - 17 Nov
19 FORMULA 1 GRANDE PRÊMIO DO BRASIL 2013 (São Paulo) 22 - 24 Nov

Disappointing to see that we have a 3 week break between Canada and Britain, then a race the next weekend (good) but then another 3 week gap, before the 4 week summer break. In effect, we're going to have just 4 races (Canada, Britain, Germany and Hungary) in 11 weeks.