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#401 Mr.Wayne

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:12

What ??? Neither of those were from good positions.

Wouldnt even cover the 2 postions he gained in Valencia.

Vettel and Ham have lost 2 to 3 X points each than Alonso

Well said.
Due to reliability alone, Alonso has a +42 points extra gap to Vettel than what we would have had the alternators (not built by neither the engine manufacturer, nor RedBull) not being faulty...

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#402 choyothe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:12

Oh he's 3rd already, this time by terrible tactics from rival team? Oh well, Alonso sure 2nd at least.

#403 Vesuvius

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:12

We are ruined now, no points for Kimi.

#404 Koen

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:13

What happened to Maldonado? Completely missed it.

#405 paulesko

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:13

It is as far as a driver is concerned - very unlikely that Hamilton had any degree of control over that.


Reliability is a direct representation of well done enginiering, so no luck, just work.

And I remember Lewis hitting softly the wall with it´s rear-right on his second attempt on q3. We´ll possibly never know, but there´s a chance, that the driver has something to do in here.


#406 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:13

Bernd Meylander holds the record for 4th most laps led at the Singapore GP - Stat attack from Brundle.

#407 choyothe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:13

Why the hell has the safety car picked up Vettel?!

Alonso should be picked up?


What?

#408 Disgrace

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:13

Alonso sure 3rd.

Is it me or is Karthikeyan really crap?


He clearly doesn't deserve to be in F1 on merit, but he's had a better season than the likes of Massa and Senna. This is the only race he crashed out of due to his own fault.

Both front row men out with mechanical issues.

#409 sailor

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:13

Alonso sure 3rd.

Is it me or is Karthikeyan really crap?


Karthikeyan is a cucumber

And Alonso is a lucky cucumber

#410 DrProzac

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:13

Poor Maldonado :( He managed not to crash into anyone and than this happens

#411 kosmos

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:13

Oh he's 3rd already, this time by terrible tactics from rival team? Oh well, Alonso sure 2nd at least.



BUT and VET with newer tyres, they are going to make a gap to Alonso with 4 laps older tyres, don't be so sure.

#412 Massa

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:14

Maldonado DNF, hydraulic problem

#413 artista

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:14

I'm comparing Kimi's sector with Romains' which is shit. Romain is at the gearbox of Rosberg and Kimi is also at ?Michaels.
Rosberg and Michael have same S2 sectors.

You really don't understand that if you have a car in front of you that you can't pass and you take time out of him in S1, you have to lose the same time in S2?


#414 TomNokoe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:14

More luck for Alonso! Alonso would have needed to pit again and Maldonado would have gained a place, but not any more!

#415 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:14

Maldonado out damn

#416 choyothe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

BUT and VET with newer tyres, they are going to make a gap to Alonso with 4 laps older tyres, don't be so sure.


The way it's going Alonso could be driving with 3 wheels and he would still win.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

Look at the brake dust coming out of de la Rosa's HRT, I wonder if Karthikeyan was caught out by heavily fading brakes.

#418 Longtimefan

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

Alonso lucky lucky lucky.

#419 Vic Vega

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

Hello, my name is Narain Karthikeyan, I have no idea what I'm doing here, but I think I look cool doing it nevertheless. Meanwhile, somewhere, Yoong is feeling good about himself now.

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#420 korzeniow

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

Kobayahsi personal best under SC? WTF

#421 Raziel

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

WOW 2 drivers starting from first row DNF with mechanical failures. :drunk:

#422 karne

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

What?


Vettel was leading. Okay. Safety Car was called.

Vettel and a bunch of others pit. Alonso, Hulkenberg, and Webber do not.

Ergo, leader of the race is Alonso. That's who the SC should have picked up?!

#423 Jovanotti

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

Kimi didn't stop together with the others, losing 4 places, right?

#424 paulesko

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

He clearly doesn't deserve to be in F1 on merit, but he's had a better season than the likes of Massa and Senna. This is the only race he crashed out of due to his own fault.

Both front row men out with mechanical issues.


HRT told at the begining of the race that they have brake problems, so it would be a win to end the race for them.

#425 PMM3

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:15

With Hamilton out Kimi needs a couple of points to move ahead of Lewis in the wdc.

Which means nothing. His WDC chase is over and buried.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:16

Maldonado out damn


LOL - Maldo defying the team to retire the car

#427 Crossmax

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:16

Hate the new SC procedure, take sooo much unnecessary time!!!!

#428 Koen

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:16

So it's Renault alternators vs Safety Car again. Who will win this time?

#429 discover23

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:16

Why the hell has the safety car picked up Vettel?!

Alonso should be picked up?

I dont get it either.. If Alonso stayed out and Vettel and Button pitted, shouldt Alonso be the leader of this race now?

#430 DrProzac

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:16

WTF is Maldonado doing?

#431 sailor

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:16

Maldonado out damn


LOL - Maldo defying the team to retire the car

#432 DracoN

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:16

FI-s are lucky again.

#433 speng

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:16

Alonso lucky lucky lucky.

Very very lucky

#434 regenmeister

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:16

It is as far as a driver is concerned - very unlikely that Hamilton had any degree of control over that.


It still has not much to do with luck.
The less margins you choose to have with reliavility the lighter you can make components and the faster the car will go round the track, but you will pay a price when it comes to reliability. That has been a factor in F1 from the first race a long long time ago.
Take on more reliability and lose a couple of tenth a lap and then the driver doesn't look as good.


#435 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:17

Gotta love Maldonado, no no you will not tell me to retire

#436 sailor

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:17

So it's Renault alternators vs Safety Car again. Who will win this time?


Oh Man - do we need anymore luck for the Great One?

#437 RealRacing

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:17

Hahaha now Maldonado retires. Might as well have only Ferrari racing this year? Reliability rally?

#438 Sof1

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:17

Everyone pitted.

#439 choyothe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:17

Vettel was leading. Okay. Safety Car was called.

Vettel and a bunch of others pit. Alonso, Hulkenberg, and Webber do not.

Ergo, leader of the race is Alonso. That's who the SC should have picked up?!


There was about 45 seconds between Alonso and Vettel. Sometimes that's enough to make a pitstop in F1. I know, I am astonished about it myself. :rolleyes:

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#440 RealRacing

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:18

Oh Man - do we need anymore luck for the Great One?


Hey! Massa is the great one.

#441 Fastcake

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:18

Do you think we'll actually finish this race? Times getting on and this safety car isn't helping...

#442 choyothe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:18

Can they go till the end with these tyres?

#443 micktosin

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:18

Safety car ffs. Really gutted for Lewis.

#444 discover23

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:19

There was about 45 seconds between Alonso and Vettel. Sometimes that's enough to make a pitstop in F1. I know, I am astonished about it myself. :rolleyes:

It could not have been 45 seconds..

#445 smoothcrim

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:20

why the **** is the safety car still out...............

#446 Arry2k

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:20

How much longer is this safety car period gonna last?

Phew. FINALLY!

Edited by Arry2k, 23 September 2012 - 13:21.


#447 S3baman

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:20

I don't get why the SC is staying out for so long. These marshals are really slow, had it been at Monaco we would be racing already for a few laps.

#448 choyothe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:20

It could not have been 45 seconds..


Something like 40 then.

#449 sailor

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:20

I dont get it either.. If Alonso stayed out and Vettel and Button pitted, shouldt Alonso be the leader of this race now?


Alonso was a long way behind and had to drive to the delta longer than the leaders.

Leaders pitted and came out in front. He is still massively lucky to get all the gap wiped out

#450 TomNokoe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 13:21

The longer the safety car is UNNECESSARILY out, it helps Alonso so much more.