I admit defeat...I can't be arsed searching through hundreds of posts. What about an implication that he's lost his job because he was incompetent? There's certainly no mention of him being replaced because he was on paternity leave.
There was plenty of mention straight after Singapore, and particularly in the main McLaren car thread, and any posts referring to the contrary were generally theories as to why he was away so long not that he had ever been fired.
Ah yes, interesting. Because if that happens the only reason would be because he was incompetent and certainly not for a myriad of other reasons? Or am I reading too much into the combination of this and your last quote and you actually meant it in a different way?
Well if Temple is Lewis' race engineer for the final two races those 'myriad of other reasons', which probably exist somewhere alonside your Hamilton fan quotes, are imo likely to be less plausible than the idea that for some reason the Latham-Hamilton relationship never seemed to be as solid or as good as the Prew Hamilton relationship that proceeded it. From the various Hamilton outbursts on the radio about not receiving enough information at various races, to Lathams seemingly out of touch robotic responses, ability to deal with high pressure situations, or relaying the wrong information which was filtered through to Lewis, when Jenson was given the right info (particularly in regards to weather). A poor relationship has been noted both by Hamilton and non Hamilton fans
For example in this thread from the beginning of the current seasons about race engineers: who would you choose (taking onboard the op was asking which would you prefer, not which would you not want to have :
.Disappointing race engineer for me is Andy Latham for Lewis, sounds panicky in tense moments, sounds too frightened to give Lewis bad news or to give him any news in certain moments, number of times last year Lewis had asked what was going on because no one was talking to him, and they just don't gel like him and Phil Prew used to, he's losing out in that area vs Jenson and it clearly shows with the frustrating radio calls. I think a reshuffle is in order, it would be nice to have the successful Phil/Lewis combo back but the way they have structured that control centre I don't see it happening.
Yeah Andy Latham sucks a lot. He's useless.
Even good old Tommy
I agree that Lewis RE isn´t as good as others, but, they are all good.
Re Latham He really caught my eye last year when during one of the practises, he was shown on camera chatting and smiling with someone else (off camera? ). Immediately he realised he was on the air the way he turned back to his screens and began to pretend to be working you would have thought he was committing the crime of the century – surely exchanging greetings with someone is not a hanging offence or a negative reflection on one’s competence.
It was such a ridiculous over reaction that it got me concerned about his competence in terms why he thought such a childish reaction would fool anyone and why he felt he had to make that move in the first instance, even as the action did not relate to his job.
Since keeping an eye on him i have the impression that while he may good in some aspects (well he must have to have met the criteria for selection as a race engineer mustn’t he and to be fair he comes across better during practices and qualifying), he does struggle to react in real time and is very weak in strategising – either a lack of ability in this area or a lack of assertiveness and confidence (whenever Jensen and Lewis are close together in the race then Lewis loses out and i suspect that it may be because Latham waits to hear from strategy team to make or backup decisions. He also cannot multi-task effectively -Was it japan qualifying when they got Lewis car out at the right time but still did not make the time? Whitmarsh had had to intervene to warn about the risk from the cars behind because Latham was just focussed on the question of time gap to the car in front and was not AWARE himself.
for Lewis I would have liked him to keep Jakob. if Mclaren want him to do well they should provide mentoring support to Latham or give him a competent non-English engineer - non english so that the pundits and media stop overanalysing communications in terms of how offended THEY, themselves are, while pouring over every word uttered during races& stop with all this "take your engineer down to the pub" nonsense.
I think A Latham does indeed not gel well with Lewis and i thought it was clear that this pairing does not work so i'm still wondering how come he hasn't been swapped out already.
I get the impression Andy Latham seems scared of telling Lewis bad things "OK Lewis we need to to slow down or look after the tyres", as if he's expecting a verbal volley in return. Given he would've looked after some serious drivers in his time at Mclaren I'm sure its just his method but I always get the impression he's like a pupil talking to a headteacher.
IMO Dave Robson seems great. Latham seems all wrong for Lewis. But both drivers said they weren't listened to at Barca and the engineers insisted on undergearing them both.
Phil Prew! Shame he is not Lewis´s RE anymore! Those were the days!
Very much agree about Lewis' guy as well.. sounds too scared of Lewis to give him the information he requires in "crunch time" high pressure situations.
Of course from my rather limited perspective I could be completely wrong, but if Temple were to fully replace Latham, I'd hardly see it as opposing my opinion, infact the opposite unless facts came to light completely contradicting me.