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[Snic]

Hey all Rate the GP, as usual on its merit rather than your favourite drivers fate!

Choose your favourite:

Best Driver
Worst Driver
Best Team
Best Overtake
Best Moment
DRS + Tyres
And the race in a sentence...

[ConsiderAndGo]

Best Driver - Vettel
Worst Driver - Senna
Best Team - McLaren
Best Overtake - Massa on Senna
Best Moment - Mercedes on the radio to Schuy after his crash. Made me chuckle.
DRS + Tyres - Super Soft tires were pathetic. DRS was okay.
And the race in a sentence...

Rather dull, ordinary and totally dictated by the tires. Yawn.

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 23 September 2012 - 16:48.

[seahawk]

Best Driver: Hamilton
Worst Driver: Schumacher
Best Team: Force India
Best Overtake: Webber on Koba
Best Moment: none
DRS - Tyres: ok

Dull race

[dreamer]

Best Driver
Vettel

Worst Driver
Karthikeyan, Schumacher

Best Team
Red Bull and Marussia for their best result ever...

Best Overtake
Vettel on Maldonado

Best Moment
Start and the 2 restarts

DRS + Tyres
.............

And the race in a sentence...
Boring

[korzeniow]

Best Driver: Vettel (would have been Hamilton)
Worst Driver: Kathikeyan
Best Team: Ferrari for maximizing their performance
Best Overtake: There were no fights, only oertakes came over struggling drivers
Best Moment: Nothing really, the race was that dull
DRS + Tyres: DRS didn't work because of lack of straights, Tyres were great for the strategies

I don't give a **** about the night atmosphere which is all that this race represents, nothing more. No action, no fights

[UPRC]

6/10

Results that were dictated by attrition. Not the best of races.

[choyothe]

4



Best Driver Vettel

Worst Driver Karthikeyan

Best Team Ferrari did the best job

Best Overtake Massa

Best Moment Not really one, Massa's pass was exciting

DRS + Tyres Way too fragile, needed more DRS to get the passing numbers up but I prefer this

And the race in a sentence... Too long.

[Disgrace]

5/6. The race and a dual for the lead was building up nicely but was ultimately ruined by Hamilton's retirement. The safety cars also only brought carnage rather than quality racing. This race perhaps represented the beginning of the end for Schumacher and Senna.

[Yhamm]

5
Best Driver: Hamilton
Worst Driver: Schumacher
Best Team: McLaren
Best Overtake: Massa
Best Moment: Either Massa/Senna or the 4-wide at the start and the few next corners
DRS + Tyres: ok
Boring race, and only the SCs made it a bit entertaining

[TheWilliamzer]

Best Driver: Pastor, he was dragging that car until it broke...
Worst Driver: Karthikeyan! he's really awful driving-wise.
Best Team: Marussia, they made a significant step forward and are now 10th in the WCC, 12th place is the best position of the back trio since 2010.
Best Overtake: was there any?
Best Moment: Extreme respect from JEV towards MSC even if he destroyed his race, restored my faith in humanity!
DRS + Tyres: Safety Car prevented any chance of seeing people falling off the cliff.

And the race in a sentence: Pretty average race, lots of action but it's negative action: crashes.

Gets a 6 from me.

[ayali]

Best Driver Vettel
Worst Driver Senna
Best Team Ferrari
Best Overtake Vettel
Best Moment Vergne respectfully interacting with Schumacher, very mature
DRS + Tyres No probs there
And the race in a sentence... Adios Lewis for WDC 2012

7 from me

Edited by ayali, 23 September 2012 - 17:13.

[Crossmax]

Rating given: 7

Best Driver: Timo Glock or Seb Vettel
Worst Driver: Michael Schumacher
Best Team: Ferrari?
Best Overtake: Massa on Senna
Best Moment: Massa on Senna
DRS + Tyres: DRS worked very well, not too easy, yet enabled some overtakes. Tires good, only spoiled by the prolonged safety car periods which made the 2-stop work too easily.

And the race in a sentence: revert to the older safety car rules for god's sake, it is totally unnecessary to waste time on backmarkers unlapping themselves.

[Zava]

7

best driver: Vettel, honorable mention is di Resta, even if the SC came handily, drove a nice race
worst: between Senna and Schumacher (would you believe this one if you just time-travelled here from the first half of the '90s? )
best team: mclaren, they're easily dominant force right now, without the gearbox failure they would have 4 pole to flag victories in a row
best overtake: Massa on Senna, easily his career best overtake
best moment: the same as the previous answer, and Vettel crossing the line first after a long wait since bahrain
DRS-tyres: DRS was OK, not push-to-pass, tyres... well, they were are what they are. they don't interest me. ™
race in a sentence: maybe they should reduce the distance by a good 50km like in monaco, it was a bit long

[Sakae]

At personal level:

Sebastian won this race second time, keeping his chances for WDC alive +
Michael had really bad day -

Ugly moments from the weekend (two):

- Hamilton distancing himself from Vettel on the podium after quali; what a bad display of camaraderie
- Alonso the same, caught on camera before ceremony (could not make himself to face chatting Button and Vettel)


Conclusion:

Average city style race, a lot of glitz and noise.
Abstained from voting.

[Jimisgod]

Best Driver: Massa and Di Resta equal (Had Hamilton or Pastor not DNFed I feel it would have been one of those two.)
Worst Driver: Schumacher and Karthekayen
Best Team: McLaren, RBR were woeful with Webber
Best Overtake: Massa on Senna
Best Moment: Massa on Senna or the big fails with the Saubers, Hulk and Wibbah.
DRS + Tyres: More boring strategy and SC strategy (bbbllleeearrgghhh) than racing due to tire wear. Not enough overtakes, really.
Dull. Only a few moments of interest with Massa and Webber making their way past other cars, and a bunch of people looking like rookies.

[SCUDmissile]

3. Frustratingly awful race.

Best driver was Vettel or DiResta
Worst driver Karthikeyan
Best Overtake was Massa on Senna.
Best Moment: Alonso vs Maldonado and Massa vs Senna apart from that there wasn't much.
Drs was good, but I think this place needs 2 zones. Tyres were okay I guess.

I give the race in a word. Annoying

[Lord Snooty]

Best Driver: Probably Di Resta
Worst Driver: Schumi
Best Team: Ferrari; not much pace and Massa starting badly but both drivers salvaged vital points
Best Overtake: Massa on Senna, tho' had it not worked Massa would have displaced Schumi as worst driver
Best Moment: Alonso & Maldonado; Alonso showing real craft and cojones
DRS + Tyres: Street circuit so not much DRS influence and SC's reduced impact of tyre strategies
Race: Strategic but dull; key moments involved a car failing rather than an overtake and exploiting SCs rather than racing


oh, edited to add 6/10

Edited by Lord Snooty, 23 September 2012 - 17:59.

[Watkins74]

Best Driver - Vettel and Massa

Worst Driver - Senna

Best Team - Not sure

Best Overtake - Massa

Best Moment - Lotus pulling the "Kimi is faster than you" for the 2nd time this year. It made me laugh.

Edited by Watkins74, 23 September 2012 - 18:28.

[Topsu]

6

Best Driver - Hamilton and Vettel were both amazing
Worst Driver - Senna, the car is better
Best Team - I guess it has to be Red Bull
Best Overtake - Definitely Massa, would have been Alonso if those sweet moves on Maldonado worked out
Best Moment - Karthikeyan hitting the wall
DRS + Tyres - Both ok, it's the circuit that sucks
And the race in a sentence... Long and boring Sunday drive

[Massa_f1]

See most of the posts here say this GP was boring as it is every year. Yet they always call Singapore a thriller every year. When its not. Its a long and boring race.

[Nonesuch]

Best Driver - Hamilton was fantastic in qualifying and seemed to have the race under full control until his retirement.
Worst Driver - Karthikeyan. It feels kinda bad to judge the guy since he only gets on TV when he does something silly, but I have to wonder: why? What's the point of that whole team?
Best Team - McLaren. Red Bull gave Vettel a great car, but it seemed it couldn't quite give Webber enough to be up there on the sharp end. McLaren was able to put both Button and Hamilton up there.
Best Overtake - I liked the one in which Massa tricked the Toro Rosso into taking the inside line on the corner before the Singapore Sling, but that was fairly standard. I'll instead nominate his rather odd overtake on Senna.
Best Moment - The brief but tense scrap between Alonso and Maldonado. Vettel had some great moves as well earlier in the race, but had a significant tyre advantage over those guys.
DRS + Tyres - Still don't like either.
And the race in a sentence - Not quite terrible, but please make it shorter!

See most of the posts here say this GP was boring as it is every year. Yet they always call Singapore a thriller every year. When its not. Its a long and boring race.

The journalists probably feel some pressure from The People That Matter in the F1 paddock not to be too negative about some of the races at these high profile PR-venues. You'll see the same thing in Abu Dhabi and Bahrain.

Edited by Nonesuch, 23 September 2012 - 18:52.

[Lord_Shaitan]

Best Driver - Hamilton
Worst Driver - Senna
Best Team - McLaren
Best Overtake - Kimi on Romain ;)
Best Moment - Button nearly hitting Vettel
DRS + Tyres - Both were ok
And the race in a sentence... Not that bad. Typical Singapore GP

[Lukin83]

6/10
Best Driver: Timo Glock
Worst Driver: Michael Schumacher
Best Team: Marussia
Best Overtake: Maldonado on Hulkenberg
Best Moment: Button - Vettel near-crash
DRS + Tyres: wouldn't mind second DRS zone on the main straight; less marbles could help with overtaking

The fight for P11 was the most entertaining.

[Longtimefan]

Best Driver - Lewis Hamilton (whilst he was in the race)
Worst Driver - Narain Karthicrashen
Best Team - Not sure..
Best Overtake - Massa on Bruno Lalli
Best Moment - Chequered flag
DRS + Tyres - zzzzzZZZ
And the race in a sentence... Boring boring boring, dreary, dull, very very frustrating and.. depressing

[apoka]

Best Driver - Vettel
Worst Driver - not sure, maybe Karthikeyan
Best Team - McLaren looked really good, but taking reliability into account, Ferrari and in particular RB are up there too this weekend
Best Overtake - none really (Massa on Senna was relying too much on Senna moving over imho)
Best Moment - race start
DRS + Tyres - Tyres made the race interesting as usual, although that comes at the price of unpredictable behaviour.
And the race in a sentence...
Nice race, although we had better ones in 2012, and we were robbed of a battle the two best drivers this weekend.

[FenderJaguar]

4 - nice backdrop, bad track with the layout, very boring in the beginning then better with some interesting overtakes

Best Driver - Vettel, Alonso, Maldonado trying to keep it clean, Di Resta had good races
Worst Driver - Senna, can't see a future for him in F1 after this weekend. Schumacher crashing didn't look good either. Was it the car? Karthikeyan - why is he in F1? Why is HRT in F1?
Best Team - Marussia had a good day maybe? Red Bull
Worst Team - Caterham
Best Overtake - Massa was on fire for a couple of laps. Webber made a nice one too.
Best Moment - Probably Massa's overtake. Alonso trying to get pass Maldonado? The first restart. Button not getting rewarded by the stewards. Vettel finishing the race.
DRS + Tyres - the Pirelli's seem to take the fun away from streetraces

And the race in a sentence...
The end of Bruno Senna's career in F1.

Edited by FenderJaguar, 23 September 2012 - 20:16.

[spacekid]

I really enjoyed that race, I like the fact Singapore always goes close to 2 hours, its a real test of man and machinery.

I thought Maldonado was the best driver, was gutted for him that the car went.

[Spillage]

Best Driver: Vettel won in a car that his team mate couldn't score points in. Honourable mentions to Hamilton, Di Resta & Maldonado.
Worst Driver: Crap weekend for Webber. Schumacher also with a stupid mistake.
Best Team: Difficult. Only Ferrari and Lotus got both cars in the points. Perhaps Mclaren - although they had a DNF, they did have the fastest car.
Best Overtake: Massa on Senna
Best Moment: See above
DRS + Tyres: Might be cotroversial, but if anything the tyres are too good. I love crazy four-stop races.
And the race in a sentence: Not a bad race for perhaps the worst track on the calendar. Which isn't saying much. 6/10

Edited by Spillage, 23 September 2012 - 20:52.

[greenman]

5/10

There were some passes, and it had some exciting moments, but in general probably among the most boring races of the year. Unfortunately some of the "exciting moments" also included retirements of the drivers that were doing very well prior to that.

Best pass:
Massa/Senna, and I think Webber/Hülkenberg (did this happen or am I imagining drivers?)

Best moment:
The battle between Maldonado and Alonso

DRS & tyres:
both fairly unnoticeable.

No need to award best/worst drivers/teams. I think most guys in the points did a good job. Quite impressed by Massa and some of his moves.

[rijole1]

Best Driver: Vettel - he won, Timo Glock - nice demonstration of the new updates
Worst Driver: difficult to say if the reason for a bad result is the car or the driver. Maybe Senna, I mean - he has a good car...
Best Team: Red Bull, McLaren and Marussia - they have really made a progress with their car
Best Overtake: none
Best Moment: Start - No Grosjean or Maldonado crash
DRS + Tyres: just boring
And the race in a sentence... Boring caravan with obligatory safety car episodes mixed with fantastic cityviews.


Rating 2 - 1 for the race, 1 for the beautiful nightview of Singapore

[Snic]

DRS + Tyres - the Pirelli's seem to take the fun away from streetraces

Yup I agree, I remember kubica carving through the field on bridgestones in '10, which was a lot more exciting than the overtakes on struggling cars on a 2 stop

[Rob]

A snoozefest.

[sesku]

One word to describe Singapore GP - Over-hyped!
The neighbouring Malaysian GP is much much much better even without the glitz and glamour of Singapore GP.

Best Driver - Vettel.
Worst Driver - Schumi
Best Team - Marussia
Worst Team - Caterham
Best Overtake - Massa on senna
Best Moment - Massa overtake Senna after The Bridge.
DRS + Tyres - Unnoticeable effect. Too much marble off racing line, maybe because of super soft and soft rubber.

[XOR]

Best Driver: Glock
Worst Driver: Schumacher
Best Team: RB
Best Overtake: huh?
Best Moment: srsly?
DRS + Tyres: 0

[Seanspeed]

7/10

The first 10 laps or so were boring, but it got a bit more interesting afterwards once people started pitting.

[joshb]

Best Driver- Of the race, toss up between Vettel, Hamilton, Maldonado, alonso, di Resta. Of the weekend, Hamilton or di Resta
Worst Driver- Schumi, closely followed by Senna
Best Team- Marussia, got their record result. Most of the top teams had 1 driver have bad luck, poor performance. Lotus did ok, no more
Best Overtake- Massa on Senna
Best Moment- Vettel crossing the finish line
DRS + Tyres- OK, not the dramatic Valencia style finish at the end due to less laps- otherwise tyres could've gone off the cliff. DRS ok, but I wouldn't shorten it.
And the race in a sentence... Vettel back in it, Hamilton dealt a bitter blow and Alonso keeps on scoring after 2 hour epic

7/10 for me

Edited by joshb, 24 September 2012 - 11:36.

[Baddoer]

Worst Moment: DRS+Tyres
7/10: Massa on Vettel
Marussia: Jordan's shirt at the podium ceremony
Best Grandpa: Charlie (he said he must take his sleeping pills just after 2 hours of the race)
Mclaren gearbox: ask Ron

I'll give it -100

Edited by Baddoer, 24 September 2012 - 11:44.

[Frank Tuesday]

Best Driver Hamilton
Worst Driver Karthikeyan
Best Team McLaren
Best Overtake Massa on Senna
Best Moment Massa saving the car after getting pinched by Senna.
DRS + Tyres DRS is always bad. Tyres maybe should have been Soft/Med
And the race in a sentence... DRS + Full Course Cautions = Not a real race.

[korzeniow]

One word to describe Singapore GP - Over-hyped!

[Telemetry Man]

Very unsatisfactory race on lots of levels, I gave it a 5.

[Afterburner]

Why is everyone calling for Senna to retire? If I recall correctly, he started from near the back of the grid and was running as high as eleventh at one point, all without first gear. On a track like Singapore, I'd say that's fairly remarkable. Shame his race ended as it did; I didn't see any costly mistakes on his part. Feel free to point out otherwise.

[Seanspeed]

Whats with so many people giving 'Best Team' to Mclaren? It was the team's fault they didn't win the race and lost ground to Alonso. If Lewis crashed and cost himself the win, you wouldn't nominate him for 'Best Driver' would you?

[DaddyCool]

I'm not a Mclaren fan, but all things considered, they were the best team with pole and P4 in qualy, and they were looking for a double podium before Hamilton's retirement. IIRC they reported that there were no signs of the gearbox failure pre-race.

I think it's not the team's fault that in motor racing sometimes random failures happen.

[Seanspeed]

I'm not a Mclaren fan, but all things considered, they were the best team with pole and P4 in qualy, and they were looking for a double podium before Hamilton's retirement. IIRC they reported that there were no signs of the gearbox failure pre-race.

I think it's not the team's fault that in motor racing sometimes random failures happen.

A failure is never random. There's always something that caused it. Its true it might be traceable back to a manufacturing fault or something, but thats two retirements in two races for Mclaren. They're seemingly unrelated, but there's definitely something to say for a team that have multiple reliability issues when others have near bulletproof cars.

[Snic]

Why is everyone calling for Senna to retire? If I recall correctly, he started from near the back of the grid and was running as high as eleventh at one point, all without first gear. On a track like Singapore, I'd say that's fairly remarkable. Shame his race ended as it did; I didn't see any costly mistakes on his part. Feel free to point out otherwise.

Its just the Bruno tends to save his most diabolical qualifying performances just for the weekends when Pastor turns it on, and its usually on 'driver circuits' too. He has shown great race craft and consistency more than enough times to show that the boy can drive, but there are definitely questions over his ability to handle pressure and his ultimate speed..

[Spaceframe]

The race in a sentence: It certainly didn't force me to switch channel for more than a few seconds at the time from the epic cycling world championship road race at Valkenburg in the southernmost part of the Netherlands...