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#1251 Risil

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 21:14

Can I clap my hands and make you start the Milwaukee thread?

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#1252 Deluxx

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 21:50

You'd have to bribe him.

#1253 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 22:03

Waiting for a final entry list.

#1254 SKL

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 02:35

I can't stand Goodyear- if he says "road course specialist" one more time I'm going to puke! The ABC/ESPN crew is horrible IMHO.

At least Robin Miller is funny, and Jon Beekius knows what he's talking about...

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 17:12

Waiting for a final entry list.

You sure as hell better include wall to wall coverage of that La de da de da too.
Jp

EDIT: beat down administered.

Edited by jonpollak, 11 June 2013 - 19:06.


#1256 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 17:18

DONT RUIN MY JOKES

#1257 Deluxx

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:27

I laughed out loud in real life at this, because at first I thought it was a troll.

http://racing.ap.org...ic-car-series-0

The car batteries will last up to 25 minutes at a time, so drivers will have to switch cars during the race while their batteries recharge. The driver will enter the pits, then get out of the car and run 100 meters to get into the freshly charged car.



#1258 Bloggsworth

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:33

I can just imagine a paddock full of diesel generators, recharging batteries, polluting the air, while electric cars rush around saving the planet...

Edited by Bloggsworth, 19 July 2013 - 07:33.


#1259 PayasYouRace

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:35

Why do they need to park 100 metres away? Why can't they park beside the charged car?

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#1260 expert

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:56

100 metres?

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#1261 SR388

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 16:00

Ryan Hunter Reay won an ESPY.

#1262 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 16:04

I was actually surprised by that, not just because NASCAR dwarfs Indycar but because ESPN broadcasts NASCAR...

#1263 SR388

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 16:07

I was actually surprised by that, not just because NASCAR dwarfs Indycar but because ESPN broadcasts NASCAR...


I actually voted, but they would not allow me to write in Lebron James. Who I am sure is disappointed that he did not win.



#1264 Deluxx

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 16:10

Ryan Hunter Reay won an ESPY.


*gasp* :eek:

#1265 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 16:15

It's so retro it's

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#1266 SR388

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 16:16

It's so retro it's

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Wow, that looks like a fake nose and moustache.

#1267 Deluxx

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 16:38

Why does he look so familiar lol

#1268 Jim Thurman

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 16:46

It's so retro it's

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Barf!

A fellow whose name should never be mentioned or face shown connected with auto racing. He has a deep, seething, woefully inarticulate hatred of seemingly all things auto racing. He guised many as jokes. His venomous "commentaries" (often unlabelled), he did not. He never missed an opportunity, indeed went out of his way, to slur racing and racing fans.

#1269 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 17:06

He was about as charming as newsman. And I say that as someone who is fairy Left.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 17:57

I was actually surprised by that, not just because NASCAR dwarfs Indycar but because ESPN broadcasts NASCAR...

Didn't we just have a bunch of races that said "ESPN on ABC" and they are the same company anyway.

#1271 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 18:16

Those races come with the Indy 500 package, I don't think ABC would show them otherwise. NASCAR is their racing baby.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 18:39

He was about as charming as newsman. And I say that as someone who is fairy Left.

Oh I don't know. Our local newsman is quite the charmer.


#1273 Jim Thurman

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 18:40

He was about as charming as newsman. And I say that as someone who is fairy Left.

See, that's the problem with criticizing him...folks automatically assume it's because of his politics. As a racing fan, I felt this way toward him before he'd even uttered a political word. I loathed him without knowing (or, more importantly caring) what his politics were. Personally, I have no problem with his politics, it's him I have a problem with :D

You do realize of course, that you and I leaning more left means we shouldn't even be allowed to be racing fans :lol:

#1274 PayasYouRace

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 18:47

At the risk of annoying Jim, who is that man?

#1275 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 18:48

The irony is the more politically Right the series, the more they favour going to the Left.




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Posted 19 July 2013 - 18:49

Met Conor Daly at Silverstone today. Had a good long chat about all things IndyCar & the 500.

He had real enthusiam for the series which was very refreshing. Blummin nice chap.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 18:51

At the risk of annoying Jim, who is that man?


Keith Olbermann. Who just recently came to terms with ESPN/ABC and is coming back to the network. Not that during the 11pm ET time slot will many tune in to ESPN, let alone a time slot filled with Olbermann.

#1278 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 18:52

Met Conor Daly at Silverstone today. Had a good long chat about all things IndyCar & the 500.

He had real enthusiam for the series which was very refreshing. Blummin nice chap.


Given his family tree I'd be shocked if it was otherwise :p

#1279 PayasYouRace

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 18:55

Keith Olbermann. Who just recently came to terms with ESPN/ABC and is coming back to the network. Not that during the 11pm ET time slot will many tune in to ESPN, let alone a time slot filled with Olbermann.


Given that google suggested Bill O'Reilly (who I've actually heard of - never for any good reason) as a related search, I can understand the pain.

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#1280 Bob Riebe

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 19:05

Olbermann was released, in a belligerent manner, from every network he has worked for, it will be interesting how long it takes for him to stick his head up his arse again.

Edited by Bob Riebe, 19 July 2013 - 19:06.


#1281 SR388

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 19:08

Wtf happened to this thread?

#1282 HaydenFan

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 19:12

Wtf happened to this thread?


No IndyCar racing for 2 weeks does things to people.

At least we haven't sulked to the level of the off-season threads judging driver looks and personality (Think there was a driver's pets thread. Maybe?).

#1283 Deluxx

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 20:21

I had to go back like 20 pages to necro it lol

#1284 Jim Thurman

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 22:15

No, it's all relevant to the photo Ross posted of The Anti-Racing.

Just a couple samples I recall of his...

"Is it still a sport when someone dies doing it?"

"...and for those of you who haven't outgrown your need to see gory car crashes..."

Those were actually some of his lighter moments towards racing :rolleyes: There have been a large number of ranting tirades he did on various TV networks after showing footage of any fatal accident he could find. He's done it every single place he's been.

I wasn't the one that brought politics into it. I was simply pointing out my dislike of the person has nothing to do with that. Him being a political lightning rod obfuscates that.

The guy does have impeccable taste in comedy though, I give him that. Yet, when he tries to be funny, it's usually so bileous and mean-spirited, he fails his influences...miserably.

#1285 HaydenFan

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 00:59

No, it's all relevant to the photo Ross posted of The Anti-Racing.

Just a couple samples I recall of his...

"Is it still a sport when someone dies doing it?"

"...and for those of you who haven't outgrown your need to see gory car crashes..."


Then he takes money from NBC to cover the most dangerous sport in the world in the National Football League. I always loved that about people who claimed racing as being dangerous. I played football and did a bit of racing, and I never felt unsafe behind the wheel of a car on a track (unlike the road), whereas many plays I wish I had taken off after the hits I took.

But, but, while he did only highlight the crashes, doing that highlighting helped to forward the sport down a road towards more safety. While not specifically reacting to him, the sport looked at the violent crashes and attempted to eliminate injury. And while many still like the "Big One", or cars getting airborne, outside Vegas 2011 not many of those violent crashes gravely injury someone. Which IMO is good for the sport. I think crazy, wild crashes do sell some seats at certain tracks, which while not the best reason to be a racing fan, at least gives the racing aspect some boost.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 01:00

Is there any update concerning the "aero kits" for next year? Who will make them? Dallara?

#1287 Deluxx

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 02:38

Wasn't each supplier going to make their own

#1288 Jim Thurman

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 18:31

Then he takes money from NBC to cover the most dangerous sport in the world in the National Football League. I always loved that about people who claimed racing as being dangerous. I played football and did a bit of racing, and I never felt unsafe behind the wheel of a car on a track (unlike the road), whereas many plays I wish I had taken off after the hits I took.

But, but, while he did only highlight the crashes, doing that highlighting helped to forward the sport down a road towards more safety. While not specifically reacting to him, the sport looked at the violent crashes and attempted to eliminate injury. And while many still like the "Big One", or cars getting airborne, outside Vegas 2011 not many of those violent crashes gravely injury someone. Which IMO is good for the sport. I think crazy, wild crashes do sell some seats at certain tracks, which while not the best reason to be a racing fan, at least gives the racing aspect some boost.

:up: I've long pointed out the hypocrisy of those attacking racing while embracing football and boxing. Statisically, there have been years in the bad old days where there weren't that many more fatalities in racing than in football.

Others might have, or could have, had that impact, yet didn't...but him, not at all. Those in the mainstream media who attacked racing rarely offered positives or solutions or even expressed interest in improvement or change, many simply screamed for racing to be banned. He was the most extreme of even that lot. His head would explode (which he's good at) and he would let loose a Tourette's like tirade, throwing out stuff that didn't apply and was wildly inaccurate. Worse, he would make fun of safety improvements made in response to incidents. There was never a positive.

Literally, the only positive I ever heard him mention toward anything connected to racing was something after Dale Earnhardt's death when showing footage of the outpouring and memorial at the Childress shop: "Say what you want about them, racing fans do care." Yet, consistently before and some since, he's made terribly insulting comments about racing fans.

Edited by Jim Thurman, 20 July 2013 - 20:51.


#1289 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 18:36

Racing is like the aviation industry. Something goes wrong and they freak out trying to figure out what happened.

Football is "oh, did that guy get injured or something?".

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 19:35

so now i understand why for some years already i've found NFL more interesting to follow than car racing

(go, titans!)

#1291 Jim Thurman

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 20:56

Racing is like the aviation industry. Something goes wrong and they freak out trying to figure out what happened.

Football is "oh, did that guy get injured or something?".

Actually you're summing up or reflecting how the media reacts/handles it.

Racing used to sometimes seem too lackadaisical and fatalistic about accidents and the media of the day went after that. It usally took someone losing friend(s) to really make the effort to improve safety. Then again, there was a bit of a technology gap in some areas.

Now, everything goes to 11. It's just part of TV/newspapers screaming to be heard, like radio before it. They're the hand wringers and finger pointers. Well, except when it's aimed at them for something they f'uped :D

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:24

Actually you're summing up or reflecting how the media reacts/handles it.

Racing used to sometimes seem too lackadaisical and fatalistic about accidents and the media of the day went after that. It usally took someone losing friend(s) to really make the effort to improve safety. Then again, there was a bit of a technology gap in some areas.

Now, everything goes to 11. It's just part of TV/newspapers screaming to be heard, like radio before it. They're the hand wringers and finger pointers. Well, except when it's aimed at them for something they f'uped :D

Aye, 'twas ever thus. This was within the context of deaths in F1, but equally relevant here:

The thing about deaths in motor sport is that they tend to be spectacular: the crash itself, the very real possibility of fire and the fact that the press can linger ghoulishly afterwards showing the wreckage. Our sport is safer than it has ever been in its 116 year history, for which we should be grateful to - especially - Jackie Stewart, Jo Bonnier, Niki Lauda and Graham Hill, who were the driving forces behind the GPDA's safety crusade.

Contrast motor sport's safety record with equestrian sports and it stands up remarkably well. Were you aware for example that

Between 1997 and December 2008, at least 37 eventing riders died as a result of injuries incurred while competing in the cross-country phase of eventing at national or international level or at Pony Club, and of these, 18 riders died in the period 2006-2008. These 37 fatal falls have been at all levels of the sport, from domestic one-day events up to regional championships level, and they have occurred in most of the recognized eventing countries around the world, with concentrations in the United Kingdom (14) and the United States (8).

http://en.wikipedia....Eventing#Safety

I wonder how many more have been left disabled after breaking their necks or backs?

If we were to lose another F1 driver as publicly as Senna, there would be a world-wide outcry, with the usual calls for the sport to be banned. Yet if a leading 3-day eventer died, there'd be barely a ripple: go figure :well:


http://forums.autosp...w...t&p=4930780

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 13:23

Racing is like the aviation industry. Something goes wrong and they freak out trying to figure out what happened.

Football is "oh, did that guy get injured or something?".


And like aviation, safety concerns have held back the industry (the grounding of the Concordes as an example), racing has reached a level where the goal of speed became the goal of mass appeal. Where there is the ability to go quickly, while potentially being a bit more risky, it is safer and easier to go slower and attract a bigger audience.

Anyone have the Mid-Ohio weekend thread yet?



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 00:32

James Davison to race for Dale Coyne at Mid-Ohio.

Twin turbocharged engines mandatory next season.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:00

Luca Filippi rumored to be replaceing Tag at Bryan Herta at Mid-Ohio.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 02:47

Twin turbocharged engines mandatory next season.

Honda,Hosed...
http://motorsportsta...-only-for-2014/
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#1297 Andrew Hope

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:51

Arghhhhh I thought Mid Ohio was this weekend, but it's not until August 4th.

You know you love racing too much when every time you find out a race is a week later than you thought it was, you consider killing yourself just to avoid having to wait 7 more days.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:03

No need for twisted knickers, Hope. There's Hungary and NASCAR at Indy this weekend.

Speaking of, how many pink knickers do you now own from washing the whites with those Target shirts of yours?

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:26

No need for twisted knickers, Hope. There's Hungary and NASCAR at Indy this weekend.

Speaking of, how many pink knickers do you now own from washing the whites with those Target shirts of yours?


Well kill me now then. A weekend of fishing shows on NBC Sports is better than those two races.



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#1300 Andrew Hope

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 06:31

No need for twisted knickers, Hope. There's Hungary and NASCAR at Indy this weekend.

Speaking of, how many pink knickers do you now own from washing the whites with those Target shirts of yours?


Happy to say I have the only job in the place that does not require wearing red shirts. Also, I have no idea how to do laundry anyway.