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#401 Rob

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:50

IMS willing to adjust Indy 500 schedule if Tony Stewart wants in - Indy Star byline this morning:


They ought to adjust it anyway. You might then get others showing interest.

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#402 Peat

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:03

They had better not. I have all my flights/hotels booked....


#403 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:13

I'm putting $5 on Roger saying this to stir the pot and get Indycar some attention.



#404 Xpat

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 15:05

Moving it back in the day to 11am would keep me from having to sit in an aluminium seat hot enough to fry an egg and get everyone out of IMS before the tornadoes hit.

Edited by Xpat, 05 December 2012 - 15:06.


#405 Victor_RO

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 16:09

News alert: RHR to defend his championship while carrying the champion's number 1 on the car.

#406 PayasYouRace

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 16:18

About time a champion carried the number 1 in Indycar.

#407 pacificquay

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 17:39

It should be compulsory

#408 gm914

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 23:08

Smoke is not running the double. Bah!

#409 loki

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:32

They had better not. I have all my flights/hotels booked....



It's an hour. Is that going to hamper your schedule?

#410 jonpollak

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:22

Rubens..might be left out when the music stops.

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#411 B Squared

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:31

Smoke is not running the double. Bah!


Indy Star link:

http://www.indystar....xt|Indianapolis Sports

“I think the days of drivers showing up to Indianapolis and having a legitimate shot of winning without running the races leading up and having the testing is long gone,” Stewart said. “The (IndyCar Series) is so strong and so competitive.

“I will never say never, but I will say that I’m not taking him up on the offer this year.”

#412 Risil

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:39

Rubens..might be left out when the music stops.

Jp


Nooooo

#413 jonpollak

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 16:59

I mean honestly, just have a look at these two bollards.
Their expressions say.. Thrilling, Compelling, Fearsome, Mindblowing.. right?


Or does it just say...What's for breakfast?
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#414 Xpat

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 19:24

The article.

http://www.indystar....;nclick_check=1

#415 B Squared

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 19:42

They both look thrilled to death to be in their position of "leadership." :rolleyes:

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 20:01

Smoke is not running the double. Bah!


Oh no, not the annual "Major NASCAR driver will do the 500. Oh, no he won't!" story cycle. Hasn't this one been done to death? :yawnface:


#417 Risil

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 20:06

Yeah but at least this time there's a manufacturer with entries in both series.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 23:56

They both look thrilled to death to be in their position of "leadership." :rolleyes:

They won't even be able to do a U-turn now as Randy has taken a job as CEO of a TV network. Real shame as he knew what he was doing and could have done it if had been given the time.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:49

They won't even be able to do a U-turn now as Randy has taken a job as CEO of a TV network.


From this morning's Indy Star:

Bernard is expected to be announced as the new CEO of RFD-TV, an agriculture-based cable network based in Omaha, Neb.

IndyCar’s legal separation from the failed Lotus engine program should be finalized Friday.

Conor Daly was fitted for a seat in one of A.J. Foyt Racing’s cars in preparation for next week’s test at Sebring, Fla. It could lead to a full-time ride as Honda officials push for Foyt to run a second car. Takuma Sato is expected to sign for the other.

Link to full story:

http://www.indystar....xt|Indianapolis Sports|p

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#420 billm99uk

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 13:26

From this morning's Indy Star:

Conor Daly was fitted for a seat in one of A.J. Foyt Racing’s cars in preparation for next week’s test at Sebring, Fla. It could lead to a full-time ride as Honda officials push for Foyt to run a second car. Takuma Sato is expected to sign for the other.


Guess he didn't find the budget for GP2 then?

#421 Myrvold

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 15:39

Cheaper to run IndyCar full season than GP2?

#422 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 16:37

For a GP2 budget you could get a decent Indycar ride, if the team had some sponsorship. Like Foyt.

#423 Myrvold

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 17:13

Quite interesting!

#424 billm99uk

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 17:24

Cheaper to run IndyCar full season than GP2?


These days, maybe :eek:

But I was really thinking more that it would be easier for an American driver to find sponsors for an series with some kind of profile in the US?

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 18:28

Conor Daly said in an interview in order for him to get his funding from sponsors for GP2 he had to come in third or better. So he has lost all his European racing backing.

#426 PayasYouRace

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:10

Lotus leaves IndyCar Series after poor 2012 season http://www.autosport...t.php/id/104758

Not surprised.

#427 Risil

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 18:06

Isn't there something in the rules about Chevy and Honda having to supply more engines if Lotus leave? I wonder where this leaves HVM.

#428 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 18:25

I thought they'd left. HVM(but Lotus too).

#429 PayasYouRace

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 19:51

Isn't there something in the rules about Chevy and Honda having to supply more engines if Lotus leave? I wonder where this leaves HVM.


To quote the final paragraph of the article, "The announcement means that Chevrolet and Honda must now each be able to supply a minimum 60 per cent of the 2013 grid as per the terms of their agreement with the series."

#430 Victor_RO

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:30

I thought they'd left. HVM(but Lotus too).


HVM are trying to be back in Indycar, but they have no driver at the moment, they have a 2013 WEC campaign planned in collaboration with Status Grand Prix.

#431 Risil

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 16:48

Okay! MP's released a new Silly Season update on Speed dot com, so I think it's time for one of those beloved cut-out-and-keep driver/team rundowns. I've italicised the likely-to-be-confirmed and put question marks near the more speculative entries. Including, sadly, Rubens Barrichello. :(

21 cars confirmed, and it seems likely that Briscoe and Viso will get their acts together with one team or another.

Anyone reckon this Tony Stewart buzz might be a cover for IMS struggling to attract a full field of 33 entries?

Andretti Autosport (Chevy)
1. Ryan Hunter-Reay -- Sundrop/DHL
25. Marco Andretti -- RC Cola
27. James Hinchcliffe -- GoDaddy
Carlos Muñoz (Indy-only)
Ana Beatriz? (Sao Paulo? Indy 500?)

Team Penske (Chevy)
3. Hélio Castroneves -- Hitachi (9 races), Shell
12. Will Power -- Verizon

Panther Racing (Chevy)
4. John Ratclyffe Hildebrand -- National Guard

Dragon Racing (Chevy)
6. Katherine Legge -- TrueCar
7. Sébastien Bourdais -- McAfee? Bing? Weird low-paying business-to-business deal?

Chip Ganassi Racing (Honda)
9. Dario Franchitti -- Target
10. Scott Dixon -- Target
83. Charlie Kimball -- Novo Nordisk
38. Ryan Briscoe? (10/12)
E.J. Viso -- E.J. Viso Industries?
Gustavo Yacamán?
(13/11)

KV Racing Technology (Chevy)
11. Tony Kanaan -- GEICO
78. Simona de Silvestro -- Nuclear Clean Air Energy

A.J. Foyt Racing (Honda)
14. Takuma Sato? -- ABC Supply (10/12)
Chase Austin (Indy-only)
Conor Daly?
Mike Conway?
Wade Cunningham?
(10/12)

Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing (Honda)
15. Graham Rahal -- TBC Retail, Midas Auto Services
James Jakes? (10/12)
Ryan Briscoe? (10/12)
Indy-only: Michel Jourdain? Tristan Vautier? (13/11)

Dale Coyne Racing (Honda)
18. Justin Wilson -- Sonny's BBQ? Boy Scouts of America?

Ed Carpenter Racing (Chevy)
20. Ed Carpenter -- Fuzzy's Vodka

Panther/Dryer and Reinbold Racing (Chevy)
22. Oriol Servia -- Er, take your pick

Sarah Fisher Hartman Racing (Honda)
67. Josef Newgarden -- Quaker Chemical
James Jakes? (13/11)

Schmidt-Hamilton Motorsports (Honda)
77. Simon Pagenaud -- Hewlett-Packard
Rubens Barrichello (Sao Paulo-only)? (11/12)
Ryan Briscoe? (12/12)
Tristan Vautier? (10/12)

Bryan Herta Autosport (Honda)
98. Alexandre Tagliani -- Barracuda Networks
E.J. Viso? (10/12)

AFS/Andretti Autosport (Chevy)?
Sebastián Saavedra?
(10/12)

Conquest Racing?
Ana Beatriz? (Sao Paulo? Indy 500?)


HVM Racing?

Michael Shank Racing?
E.J. Viso?
(13/11)

Edited by Risil, 12 December 2012 - 20:18.


#432 Jim Thurman

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 17:49

Anyone reckon this Tony Stewart buzz might be a cover for IMS struggling to attract a full field of 33 entries?

Clearly, it's for publicity, but...talk all you want about The Silver Spoons over in the NASCAR thread, or lament Chicken Boy there as well, but there has never been a driver more catered to than Mr. Stewart. Schedules massaged to allow him to add to his resume, getting to do all pre-season testing before anyone else received chassis, etc. Smh :well:

At this point, why don't they just put Tony in a car with a larger engine, restrict the engines in the other 32 cars and simply gift wrap the 500 win that so many around him so desperately want him to "achieve" :rolleyes: They've already attempted it a couple of times, so it's not like it's unprecedented.

Edited by Jim Thurman, 10 December 2012 - 19:32.


#433 jonpollak

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 19:38

Your fears are now confirmed Risil


Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 10 December 2012 - 19:47.


#434 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 19:46

Everyone's switching to tin tops.

#435 jonpollak

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 19:47

Bia looks like she may have a ride for Sao Paulo and the 500 with Eric Bachelart but is testing DTM for Audi.
Jp

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 19:57

Bia looks like she may have a ride for Sao Paulo and the 500 with Eric Bachelart but is testing DTM for Audi.
Jp

What's with all this DTM post-season testing?

#437 Jim Thurman

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 20:07

Everyone's switching to tin tops.

Probably nice to get paid instead of paying.

Err, is that going to include you to Ross? You know, ARCA?, Road America?

If so, there goes another open wheeler to stock cars :D

#438 loki

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 20:08

Better move for Rubens at this point in his career. Plenty of home base fan support, a good sponsor and none of the acrimony and drama that is ICS. I wish him luck. I'll start to follow the series, always liked Rubens. Bummer for ICS fans but I can't blame him.

#439 loki

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 20:15

Probably nice to get paid instead of paying.


Yep. Same reason people rob banks. That's where the money is... It doesn't concern me much, I'll watch barstools and lawn mowers race.


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#440 Risil

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 23:09

Bia looks like she may have a ride for Sao Paulo and the 500 with Eric Bachelart but is testing DTM for Audi.
Jp


:eek:

I've just realised that this Bia Figueiredo you keep talking about is the same driver as Ana Beatriz! Mind blown. This is almost as big as last season's revelation that andrew was the same poster as Andrew Hope.

Edited by Risil, 10 December 2012 - 23:10.


#441 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 23:56

wtf?

#442 Risil

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 00:46

I dunno wtf was going on either, but we've got some material for our next philosophy discussion group.

http://en.wikipedia..../Opaque_context

The term is used in philosophical theories of reference, and is to be contrasted with "referentially transparent context". In rough outline:

-- Opacity: "Mary believes that Cicero is a great orator" gives rise to an opaque context; although Cicero was also called 'Tully', we can't simply substitute 'Tully' for 'Cicero' in this context ("Mary believes that Tully is a great orator") and guarantee the same truth value, for Mary might not know that the names 'Tully' and 'Cicero' refer to one and the same thing. Of course, if Mary does believe that Cicero is a great orator, then there is a sense in which Mary believes that Tully is a great orator, even if she does not know that 'Tully' and 'Cicero' corefer. It is the sense forced on us by "direct reference" theories of proper names, i.e. those that maintain that the meaning of a proper name just is its referent.

-- Transparency: "Cicero was a Roman orator" gives rise to a transparent context; there is no problem substituting 'Tully' for 'Cicero' here: "Tully was a Roman orator". Both sentences necessarily express the same thing if 'Cicero' and 'Tully' refer to the same person. Note that this element is missing in the opaque contexts, where a shift in the name can result in a sentence that expresses something different from the original.


Edited by Risil, 11 December 2012 - 00:47.


#443 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:25

wtf?

part of my daily vocabulary
stf works in certain situations too

#444 packapoo

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:00

Probably nice to get paid instead of paying.

Err, is that going to include you to Ross? You know, ARCA?, Road America?

If so, there goes another open wheeler to stock cars :D



Ross???
Open wheeler racing????
Please Jim, for someone a long way away from what happens Stateside, please enlighten.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:11

please enlighten.


Ok Packie..
What we gonna do right here is go back...WayBack, Back into time.

Yet offering you no help at all
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#446 PayasYouRace

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:26

:eek:

I've just realised that this Bia Figueiredo you keep talking about is the same driver as Ana Beatriz! Mind blown. This is almost as big as last season's revelation that andrew was the same poster as Andrew Hope.


Well it's her own fault for having the full name Ana "Bia" Beatriz Caselato Gomes de Figueiredo :p

We should start calling her AB Gomes for a bit more confusion. Sounds more American.

Edited by PayasYouRace, 11 December 2012 - 11:26.


#447 Risil

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 12:58

Ana Beatriz Caselato, it's as easy as 1 2 3

In fact if you take her initials and add the "de", you get the first seven letters of the alphabet, or alternatively the diatonic scale. (C major, to be precise.) ABCGdeF. Spooky.

Talking Point
Are there any other Indycar drivers whose names you can play on a piano?

Edited by Risil, 11 December 2012 - 13:03.


#448 PayasYouRace

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 13:15

Probably not to that extent, though my piano has letters all the way to Z, I don't stop at G every time. :lol:

Looking back at the driver lineup from the previous page, all I could think about what how it looked like Indycar Racing II. With a few real drivers and a bunch of fillers that Papyrus invented to make a full field. I mean Chase Austin, Tristan Vautier? Next we'll have John Smith and Fred Jones.

#449 Risil

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 13:26

You're getting old. :p As Lennon and McCartney sung

There are drivers I remember
All my life, though some have changed
Some forever not for better
Some have gone and some remain
All these drivers have their moments
With lovers and friends I still can recall
Some are dead and some are living
In my life I've loved them all


(Whoa, 9999 posts. I'm getting old.)

#450 PayasYouRace

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 14:14

You're getting old. :p As Lennon and McCartney sung



(Whoa, 9999 posts. I'm getting old.)


Better make that 10k post a good one.