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#1 SamH123

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:15

Should be a good one (as normal this season!)

I will be very surprised if it's not Mclaren's to lose, I don't think Singapore was ideal for their car.
I wonder if the higher downforce quicker cars that got a better grid slot will suffer more from tyre wear in the race?

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#2 Disgrace

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:30

Like Singapore, which I maintain is still a good circuit, we'll see plenty of drivers finding the limit over the course of the weekend. It should be entertaining; I wonder if Senna can improve on his four times in the barrier Singapore total?

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:31

Good chance of a McLaren 1-2 here surely? Jensons always been good here and chances are Lewis would have been on pole last year if he was out in time in Q3. Looking forward to it.

#4 showtime

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:33

I wouldn't make any prediction until we have a reliable weather forecast.

#5 SCUDmissile

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:45

Suzuka > Spa
(Yes, I just said it)

With this, Korea and India, we are now into the early coffee morning starts! One of my favourite parts of the season.

Edited by SCUDmissile, 27 September 2012 - 16:51.


#6 BernieEc

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:47

A Lotus win finally............

#7 RedOne

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:49

Suzuka > Spa
(Yes, I just said it)

With this, Korea and India, we are now into the early coffee morning starts now! One of my favourite parts of the season.


Same!! No more waking up in the morning and basically watching paint dry until the race starts, I love early starts with F1 reminds me of the old days.

#8 Disgrace

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:52

Suzuka > Spa
(Yes, I just said it)


I don't think that will prove to be too controversial. I certainly agree with that, but they're both great so no need to fret.

With this, Korea and India, we are now into the early coffee morning starts now! One of my favourite parts of the season.


:smoking:

#9 jrg19

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 16:57

I love the early morning races and through the night practice sessions! Cant wait!

#10 Anja

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 17:01

Sauber should be strong here, at least they expect so. I'd love to see Kamui on the podium in his home race.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 17:39

Same!! No more waking up in the morning and basically watching paint dry until the race starts, I love early starts with F1 reminds me of the old days.


No thanks. I will take my 8am EST starts, gets me ready for the rest of the day.

#12 korzeniow

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 17:53

Sauber should be strong here, at least they expect so. I'd love to see Kamui on the podium in his home race.


yeap, that would be great in his home GP, but I doubt Sauber will have the pace for that

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:45


Typhoon no.17 (of 2012) is expected to cross Japan this weekend :|

it's causing some damages in Okinawa region now :(

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will hit mainland tomorrow to monday


forecast for next weekend looks good right now, which is good. Hope it'll be good weather next weekend :)

Edited by muramasa, 29 September 2012 - 12:37.


#14 Ravenak

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:55

I'll be in both Suzuka and Yeongam, will attempt to access paddock (got contacts at Renault Sport and McLaren Electronics) and try to give you some insight ;)

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 12:16

I'll be in both Suzuka and Yeongam, will attempt to access paddock (got contacts at Renault Sport and McLaren Electronics) and try to give you some insight ;)

Cool.
If you have Suzuka weekend GP ticket and are available on Thursday, go to the circuit early morning on Thur, you can attend paddock walk and circuit walk (east half of circuit), and may win the chance to attend driver autograph session later in the day (But you have contacts with teams, so that should be better than that tho! Anyway for anyone interested :) )

And after the race on sunday there will be circuit walk on west half of the circuit, so you might get broken car parts or tyre marbles to bring back home as souvenir :p


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Posted 29 September 2012 - 12:22

Same!! No more waking up in the morning and basically watching paint dry until the race starts, I love early starts with F1 reminds me of the old days.


Love watching f1 in a duvet and seeing the sun come up as they're racing

#17 Ravenak

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 12:41

Cool.
If you have Suzuka weekend GP ticket and are available on Thursday, go to the circuit early morning on Thur, you can attend paddock walk and circuit walk (east half of circuit), and may win the chance to attend driver autograph session later in the day (But you have contacts with teams, so that should be better than that tho! Anyway for anyone interested :) )

And after the race on sunday there will be circuit walk on west half of the circuit, so you might get broken car parts or tyre marbles to bring back home as souvenir :p


I knew about the competition, but not about the walk, thanks!

#18 Bruce

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 13:24

I love the early morning races and through the night practice sessions! Cant wait!


From my part of the world these races are a little rough - my "coffee" races are the European ones - they show at 8am where I am in Canada. The Asian races are brutal - Japan screens at 2AM Sunday morning... uggh. I used to insist on watching each race live... not anymore.

#19 Mc_Silver

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 13:51

Jenson loves this track. I hope this new transfer news do not distract the team's focus. There is WDC and especially WCC to the taking. I expect 1-2 from McLaren if it is dry and if we have some good luck for sure!!

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#20 zack1994

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 17:52

Jenson loves this track. I hope this new transfer news do not distract the team's focus. There is WDC and especially WCC to the taking. I expect 1-2 from McLaren if it is dry and if we have some good luck for sure!!

macca 1-2 would be awesome :up:

#21 korzeniow

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 17:55

macca 1-2 would be awesome :up:


Too much of that recently.

Lotus 1-2, now that would be awesome :up:

#22 BigWicks

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 17:58

This is going to be another tight one. McLaren, Red Bull, Sauber, Lotus and Ferrari are all going to be so close to each other. Anything could happen.

#23 Atreiu

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 18:16

Imo, its between McLaren and Red Bull. Lewis would do well to get the Suzuka monkey off his back.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 18:32

Too much of that recently.

Lotus 1-2, now that would be awesome :up:


Really? How many times and when was the last one?

#25 SCUDmissile

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 18:45

There hasn't been a 1-2 this season. Closest was McLaren in Monza.

And I gotta be honest, I don't understand why Button is so good round here. Sure he has won round here, but I would say Vettel is more of a Suzuka specialist than anyone.

Edited by SCUDmissile, 29 September 2012 - 18:46.


#26 Atreiu

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 18:47

There hasn't been a 1-2 this season. Closest was McLaren in Monza



That was a one nothing. Closest was Red Bull atSilverstone with a one three and McLaren at Melbourbe.

#27 Anderis

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 18:47

Really? How many times and when was the last one?

This is another race for Lotus to win is the same as it was with another Coulthard's years. :drunk:

#28 Atreiu

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 18:48

There hasn't been a 1-2 this season. Closest was McLaren in Monza.

And I gotta be honest, I don't understand why Button is so good round here. Sure he has won round here, but I would say Vettel is more of a Suzuka specialist than anyone.



It was more the RB5 and RB6 to me.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 19:13

There hasn't been a 1-2 this season. Closest was McLaren in Monza.

And I gotta be honest, I don't understand why Button is so good round here. Sure he has won round here, but I would say Vettel is more of a Suzuka specialist than anyone.


As were the Red Bulls he has been driving. Webber was awfully close to Vettel in '10 qualifying, I'm not convinced he has a particular advantage although his '09 Q3 lap is among my favourites of recent times.

#30 korzeniow

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 19:16

Really? How many times and when was the last one?


Could have happen in Monza.

I was reffreing more to the fact that McLaren have dominant pace right now and are winning race after race.

#31 SCUDmissile

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 19:20

It was more the RB5 and RB6 to me.

RB5 wasn't that dominant. It was kind of like last year, where the closest challenger to button was Alonso in a F150.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 19:26

As were the Red Bulls he has been driving. Webber was awfully close to Vettel in '10 qualifying, I'm not convinced he has a particular advantage although his '09 Q3 lap is among my favourites of recent times.

I also like his 2011 one, on the edge for the whole lap, using every centimeter of the track, and still only stealing the pole from Button by taking the shorter route to the line. that was just fantastic. :)

('10: Webber was close with his second attempt to Vettel's first, who pitted on his second lap after hearing no one was dangerous anymore, IIRC)

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 19:37

As were the Red Bulls he has been driving. Webber was awfully close to Vettel in '10 qualifying, I'm not convinced he has a particular advantage although his '09 Q3 lap is among my favourites of recent times.


His 2011 pole lap was one of the most spectacular in recent years OTOH, with a car forced to wash away .9 of pace no less.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 19:57

Could have happen in Monza.

I was reffreing more to the fact that McLaren have dominant pace right now and are winning race after race.


Yes, Lotus 1-2 woud be perfect :)

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:23

I see Vettel being highly motivated in Japan and the rest of the season.
Alonso's only real threat now.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:27

A Lotus win finally............


please stop trolling :p

Sauber will do very well at this track, though. Expect at least one of them to qualify in Top 5 if not Top 3

PS: I also think Suzuka>Spa

Typhoon no.17 (of 2012) is expected to cross Japan this weekend :|
it's causing some damages in Okinawa region now :(


isn't that the legendary land of Mr. Miyagi? :D

Edited by BetaVersion, 29 September 2012 - 20:31.


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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:29

RB5 wasn't that dominant. It was kind of like last year, where the closest challenger to button was Alonso in a F150.


RB5 won at every high downforce/high speed track on the calendar after they got their DDD/big nose upgrade. It had the most advanced aerodynamics by far.

Hopefully Webber stops being garbage and Sauber works well here so they can both finish ahead of the Ferrari's.

I think that is the only way to get back into the WDC fight.

#38 korzeniow

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:34

please stop trolling :p

Sauber will do very well at this track, though. Expect at least one of them to qualify in Top 5 if not Top 3


Not likely. It looks more like Spa was one off for them.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:34

Too much of that recently.

Lotus 1-2, now that would be awesome :up:


I'm sorry but Lotus will be slower than Mclaren, Red Bull and Sauber at this track, so no podium for any of your boys :o

:p

There hasn't been a 1-2 this season. Closest was McLaren in Monza.

And I gotta be honest, I don't understand why Button is so good round here. Sure he has won round here, but I would say Vettel is more of a Suzuka specialist than anyone.


Schumacher was the biggest specialist of Suzuka, imho, but with the downforceless Mercedes, he might not even go to Q3 this time :|

Edited by BetaVersion, 29 September 2012 - 20:36.


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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:35

Lewis to dominate, McLaren with a 1, 2 to take the lead in constructors race with one of the Bull's DNFing, most probably Webber.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:35

I'm sorry but Lotus will be slower than Mclaren, Red Bull and Sauber at this track, so no podium for any of your boys :o

:p


Lotus are bringing updates for for japan and korea, so better hold your horses

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:37

RB5 won at every high downforce/high speed track on the calendar after they got their DDD/big nose upgrade. It had the most advanced aerodynamics by far.

Hopefully Webber stops being garbage and Sauber works well here so they can both finish ahead of the Ferrari's.

I think that is the only way to get back into the WDC fight.

Singapore?
McLaren will go well, but may not run away with it this weekend.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:40

There hasn't been a 1-2 this season. Closest was McLaren in Monza.

And I gotta be honest, I don't understand why Button is so good round here. Sure he has won round here, but I would say Vettel is more of a Suzuka specialist than anyone.

Button has a pretty good record at suzuka always been in the top 8 and finished everytime
2000 5th
2001 7th
2002 6th
2003 4th
2004 3rd
2005 5th
2006 4th
2009 8th
2010 4th
2011 1st

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:45

Not likely. It looks more like Spa was one off for them.

:lol:

don't be bitter. Sauber have been faster than Lotus in many tracks this year. Suzuka is similar to Spa but only with no so much straights. Sauber have one of the highest downforces in all grid and they will be definitely quick there.

You can count on Williams too, ehr...... well....... :well: .... Pastor should I say

Force India and Mercedes chances of passing to Q3 are like 5%, I would say, though

It took a lot of time for us to get to this point and now we can finally clearly see that is not the Pirellis that were solely making the pecking order. Mclaren's dominant form proved that it's still the car that is majorly responsible for the pace and we can't expect pace, on an aero demanding track, from cars like FI, Mercedes

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:52

Singapore?
McLaren will go well, but may not run away with it this weekend.


Singapore 09? That's not really in the mold of the tracks that I was thinking of and even then Vettel could've won there if he did not speed in the pitlane.

I was thinking about tracks with long straights and long, high speed, high downforce corners like Silverstone, Barcelona, Brazil, Suzuka, Nurburgring, Malaysia, China, Korea, etc.

#46 korzeniow

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:52

:lol:

don't be bitter. Sauber have been faster than Lotus in many tracks this year. Suzuka is similar to Spa but only with no so much straights. Sauber have one of the highest downforces in all grid and they will be definitely quick there.


LOL

they were never faster than Lotus

Spa was their biggest chance if not for first corner incident, and even that was much more due to no Friday running and Lotus messing up their set up

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 20:54

Button has a pretty good record at suzuka always been in the top 8 and finished everytime
2000 5th
2001 7th
2002 6th
2003 4th
2004 3rd
2005 5th
2006 4th
2009 8th
2010 4th
2011 1st

I see 2 podiums. The 4th in 2003 was impressive along with the 5th in 2005, but surely to be 'amazing' at a track, toy have to have won more than once?
Like Hamilton at Canada, or Vettel at Suzuka (a podium every time he raced there) or Alonso at Malaysia, Massa at Brazil.

I would say Button's best track is Australia.


Singapore 09? That's not really in the mold of the tracks that I was thinking of and even then Vettel could've won there if he did not speed in the pitlane.

I was thinking about tracks with long straights and long, high speed, high downforce corners like Silverstone, Barcelona, Brazil, Suzuka, Nurburgring, Malaysia, China, Korea, etc.


Fair enough.

Edited by SCUDmissile, 29 September 2012 - 20:56.


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Posted 29 September 2012 - 21:01

LOL

they were never faster than Lotus

Spa was their biggest chance if not for first corner incident, and even that was much more due to no Friday running and Lotus messing up their set up

:rotfl:

omg, priceless.

on another note, Force India have never being faster than STR :cat:

#49 korzeniow

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 21:06

:rotfl:

omg, priceless.

on another note, Force India have never being faster than STR :cat:


I see you agree with me, since you didn't name any of those supposedly many races that Sauber were faster than Lotus and you fake laughter is just cover for your lack of arguments

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 21:11

Monza