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#1 steveninthematrix

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:53

is this possible? Massa surely can't stay at Ferrari for another useless year.....I don't think Michael wants to retire, he isnt looking like he did in 2006......, so, if Merc replaced him, could a 1 year move to Ferrari be possible?


*dreams of it*

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#2 LuisPena

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:56

is this possible? Massa surely can't stay at Ferrari for another useless year.....I don't think Michael wants to retire, he isnt looking like he did in 2006......, so, if Merc replaced him, could a 1 year move to Ferrari be possible?


*dreams of it*


Of course no.
Before Schumacher i am pretty sure Ferrari will be looking to the pirelli test cause Robert Kubica.
Even before Kubica they are a few driver in the listo, so , no even close.

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#3 schubacca

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:01

Of course no.
Before Schumacher i am pretty sure Ferrari will be looking to the pirelli test cause Robert Kubica.
Even before Kubica they are a few driver in the listo, so , no even close.

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Why is that not possible?

Kubica? He is not even close to being ready.

I don't think that it is a non-starter. Then again only Ferrari knows....

#4 Bruce

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:03

No.

#5 gm914

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:06

I too would like to see MSC sign a one-year, farewell to F1, Ferrari seat.

But it's not going to happen.

#6 Bruce

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:07

No.

#7 Eff One 2002

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:11

I'll echo the negativity and state it ain't gonna happen. Schuey and Ferrari have had their (massively successful) time together.

#8 DarkknightRises

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:36

schumacher to go home ~~~

#9 William Hunt

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:41

I think Massa will stay for a final season.

#10 gerry nassar

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:01

Unfortunately Massa has the seat for one more year.

So it will be :

Lewis to Mercedes
Perez to McLaren
Vettel to Ferrari in 2014 (so Massa gets another year)

So for Schumacher its retirement or small chance at Sauber.

#11 Nustang70

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:04

Even if Ferrari wanted it, I can't see Schumacher wanting to drive alongside Alonso at Ferrari. This Mercedes outing might just be a lark for him, but his legend rests in Maranello.

#12 NotSoSilentBob

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:21

I actually think Schumi would jump at a year back at Ferrari, if he was offered equal status at least until the points situation played out. But they wont offer him that, because:
1. Massa will do the same job Schumacher will do;
2. at a much cheaper price, and
3. accept from day 1 that he's the #2.

#13 WatchingF1since4yearsold

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:40

I doubt it somehow, Schumacher is nowhere near as good as he was, he's not performed at Mercedes and till recently has been outperformed there by Rosberg.

#14 DarkknightRises

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:43

schumacher was nvr good! His merc stint proved that, his success is based on the engineers he stolen from benetton. He is smart in compensating his lack of talent with electronic aids!!

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:50

We all know Michael's leaving Mercedes just so his friend Lewis isn't without a drive next year, just like he so generously did for Felipe in 2006  ;) Now that there's a gap at McLaren, he may decide he still has the desire to continue. Sadly for him, I doubt the desire will be mutual.

#16 apoka

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:05

I too would like to see MSC sign a one-year, farewell to F1, Ferrari seat.

But it's not going to happen.

+1

MS at Ferrari would be nice, but they will likely keep Massa and sign Vettel for 2014 (or they could sign one of the FI drivers if they can't get Vettel).

#17 garoidb

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:08

+1

MS at Ferrari would be nice, but they will likely keep Massa and sign Vettel for 2014 (or they could sign one of the FI drivers if they can't get Vettel).


It would be terrible for Ferrari. He would divide loyalties in the team, and then they would have to retire him all over again.

But maybe he should go to Sauber.

#18 SenorSjon

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:10

Then he still has a Ferrari engine.;)

#19 Tarzaan

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:13

IMHO Sho will not go to Ferrari, but I hope he will not stay in Merc (in any role). The team does everithing in this season to broke him.

He might stay in F1 in Sauber (maybe in Renault or in Williams) or retire.

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#20 pRy

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:15

Schumacher is far too close to Massa to be responsible for putting him out of a drive. Not going to happen. Plus Luca would realise it would unsettle the team too much. History is best left in the past. It's either McLaren or he goes home.

#21 lustigson

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:26

I reckon that Michael Schumacher was pushed into retirement first by Kimi Räikkönen, and now again by Lewis Hamilton. B-)

#22 Massa_f1

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:27

I reckon that Michael Schumacher was pushed into retirement first by Kimi Räikkönen, and now again by Lewis Hamilton. B-)



You are spot on

#23 Bloggsworth

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:30

Do you think that Ferrari are that stupid that they would hire a has-been?

#24 as65p

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:35

We all know Michael's leaving Mercedes just so his friend Lewis isn't without a drive next year, just like he so generously did for Felipe in 2006 ;)


:lol: :up:

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:35

+1

MS at Ferrari would be nice, but they will likely keep Massa and sign Vettel for 2014 (or they could sign one of the FI drivers if they can't get Vettel).


I would too love to see MS at Ferrari for one year, i think he´ll do better than Massa.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:36

schumacher was nvr good! His merc stint proved that, his success is based on the engineers he stolen from benetton. He is smart in compensating his lack of talent with electronic aids!!

:eek:

Edited by multivac, 28 September 2012 - 07:36.


#27 artista

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:42

I reckon that Michael Schumacher was pushed into retirement first by Kimi Räikkönen, and now again by Lewis Hamilton. B-)

That's how I see it (if everything confirms)

#28 Prancing Horse

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:51

Schumacher to Sauber

#29 Raelene

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:53

Schumacher to re-retire - JA to Sauber

#30 WatchingF1since4yearsold

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:56

Schumacher to Sauber


this I can see, if MSC does want to stay in F1 then that's his best move, he will be no/1 for them and they will have him till he wants to quit for good.

#31 Mr.Wayne

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:57

is this possible? Massa surely can't stay at Ferrari for another useless year.....I don't think Michael wants to retire, he isnt looking like he did in 2006......, so, if Merc replaced him, could a 1 year move to Ferrari be possible?


*dreams of it*

Yes, he is not looking like in 2006.

He is looking resigned, he puts the fight, but when things don't go his way, he simply moves on... He looks like he lacks the fire of back then.

And Schumacher, playing second fiddle for Alonso?

Not in this lifetime.

#32 Torsion

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:59

this I can see, if MSC does want to stay in F1 then that's his best move, he will be no/1 for them and they will have him till he wants to quit for good.


Hope this doesn't happen. Hope he retires and we can remember him for the Champion which he is, rather than for his second stint in F1.



#33 lustigson

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:27

Schumacher to re-retire - JA to Sauber

James Allen? :drunk:

Interestingly, Schumacher ending up at Sauber, would take him full-circle, since he raced for the team in sportscars prior to his F1 debut... plus both team and driver are based in Switzerland. (Seriously, this would be a bigger surprise than Lewis jumping ship to Mercedes.)

Edited by lustigson, 28 September 2012 - 08:29.


#34 goldenboy

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:28

ah I just realised, schui is out.. All he can do is join sauber!

#35 matzy

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:31

I hope Michael got to leave on his terms, although I am beginning to think Mercedes took the decision away from him. I would agree, now is the time to walk away from F1. Why risk it all just to battle for the odd podium? He hoped to be part of a team that was challenging for titles by now. It hasn't happened, he is unlikely to find a seat in a top tier team, and (to my mind) the only option is to retire gracefully (again).

#36 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:32

I pray this doesn't happen! He's had his time at Ferrari, an incredible successful time. Let it rest.

#37 Wheels23

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:34

I hope Michael got to leave on his terms, although I am beginning to think Mercedes took the decision away from him. I would agree, now is the time to walk away from F1. Why risk it all just to battle for the odd podium? He hoped to be part of a team that was challenging for titles by now. It hasn't happened, he is unlikely to find a seat in a top tier team, and (to my mind) the only option is to retire gracefully (again).


I think he just wants to drive. He has gotten 7 championships and like 91 wins I think that's fine, I don't think he cares about his legacy and what people think of him and his career.

#38 goldenboy

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:45

I think he just wants to drive. He has gotten 7 championships and like 91 wins I think that's fine, I don't think he cares about his legacy and what people think of him and his career.

actually I agree. Don't think ferrari will offer it but if they did I think he would jump at it. Legacy is all well and good but to some people retirement is just not an option!

#39 RedBaron

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:46

It isn't the same Ferrari. He might as well move to McLaren... Ferrari 2012 isn't the Ferrari Schumacher let in 2006. This is Alonso's Ferrari.

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#40 F1ultimate

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:46

No.

Schumacher wouldn't want to be Alonso's footstool which is what whoever takes Massa's seat will be.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:47

It isn't the same Ferrari. He might as well move to McLaren... Ferrari 2012 isn't the Ferrari Schumacher let in 2006. This is Alonso's Ferrari.


Indeed funny how some think Schumacher fancies a year as Freds whipping boy....

Edited by Oho, 28 September 2012 - 09:06.


#42 Wheels23

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:59

actually I agree. Don't think ferrari will offer it but if they did I think he would jump at it. Legacy is all well and good but to some people retirement is just not an option!


I am 99% sure that Massa will be at Ferrari.



#43 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:00

I am 99% sure that Massa will be at Ferrari.


+1

#44 Showty

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:19

No one in the world, not even himself, thinks Schumi can challenge Alonso with the same car.

He perfectly knows what his role would be in Ferrari, not because they will tell him so, but because what he´s capable of these days.

So, considering that, retirement or one farewell year at Ferrari gathering some podiums and perhaps a victory?, i don´t think Sauber would bet on him.

#45 seahawk

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:23

No one in the world, not even himself, thinks Schumi can challenge Alonso with the same car.

He perfectly knows what his role would be in Ferrari, not because they will tell him so, but because what he´s capable of these days.

So, considering that, retirement or one farewell year at Ferrari gathering some podiums and perhaps a victory?, i don´t think Sauber would bet on him.


It is not just the farewell year. It could be about an ambassador role when he retires for good. After what happened at Mercedes and the fact that they did not anounce a new role for him, makes me think he won´t be with them. His connections to Ferrari are still very good. Some people I know say that his manager and he did go over to the Ferrari moterhome quite a lot this year.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:31

It is not just the farewell year. It could be about an ambassador role when he retires for good. After what happened at Mercedes and the fact that they did not anounce a new role for him, makes me think he won´t be with them. His connections to Ferrari are still very good. Some people I know say that his manager and he did go over to the Ferrari moterhome quite a lot this year.


It´s normal he and his people is still in contact with Ferrari, so many years and experiences.

Ferrari pushed Schumi to retirement, so the fact that he wanted to drive for Mercedes when he had the chance can´t be a negative thing for a possible comeback now.

Let´s see what happens these days, i´m not ruling out the possibility.

#47 seahawk

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:34

If Michael was not lying and Ferrari were willing to keep him and Kimi and fire Felipe, than the whole story looks different.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:39

Ferrari would't be looking very far into the future if they were deciding between a limping Massa and and aging Schumacher...

Maldonado would be a more exciting driver than either of those.

#49 seahawk

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:41

Ferrari would't be looking very far into the future if they were deciding between a limping Massa and and aging Schumacher...

Maldonado would be a more exciting driver than either of those.


If Vettel comes 2014, one year for MSC at his real team again. :clap:

#50 Spillage

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:11

If there is a God then Schumacher will join Ferrari :smoking: