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#1 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:30

Anyone know where it's being shown in the UK? It's this coming weekend, and normally Motors TV cover it, but no sign of it there, and would like to watch it (ideally on TV) before Suzuka (and yes I know there'd probably be a clash but I'd watch the rest of the race after the F1).

Edited by HuddersfieldTerrier1986, 30 September 2012 - 11:30.


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#2 krapmeister

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:26

TV is booked for next Sunday, beer will be bought and pizzas ordered for lunch :)

If there is no-one showing it live on telly in the UK best bet would be to try and find a stream...

#3 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:30

TV is booked for next Sunday, beer will be bought and pizzas ordered for lunch :)

If there is no-one showing it live on telly in the UK best bet would be to try and find a stream...


A stream doesn't allow me to cut away from the race and go back and watch the rest of it after the F1 though....that's what I always did.

#4 krapmeister

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:36

A stream doesn't allow me to cut away from the race and go back and watch the rest of it after the F1 though....that's what I always did.


Last year the F1 race finished literally as the last car on the grid lined up for the GP - so it was straight from the V8's to the F1 without any overlap. Start time in Suzuka should be the same this year so shouldn't be an issue, barring any massive delays (lots of SC's, red flag etc) in the V8 race...

#5 gm914

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 16:06

Aww yeah.

Talladega, Suzuka and Bathurst. Great weekend coming up!

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 16:22

Aww yeah.

Talladega, Suzuka and Bathurst. Great weekend coming up!



I'm in Geneva. Any idea on which TV stations will show each of those races?

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 16:38

I'm in Geneva. Any idea on which TV stations will show each of those races?

I usually stream everything on the Internet.

#8 Wheels23

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 07:46

I get bored easily by it.

But go any Ford drivers I guess. :p

Suzuka and then the cricket for me I think, catch little by little of this I guess.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 07:52

Aww yeah.

Talladega, Suzuka and Bathurst. Great weekend coming up!


Overdose! :love:


I'm confused. I love Lowndsey so much but I hate Warren Luff.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 23:14

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Sweeeeeeeet! :p

#11 gm914

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 23:21

Damn I miss those X- series Hardtops. I was even rushed to hospital in one when I split my head open as a kid! :p

Also wish they had the new Falcons here in the States. Did they ever come out with a new GTHO in Australia?

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 00:16

suzuka starts at 4pm sydney time, will bathurst be done by then?

edit: race must finish by 5.15 or 161 laps, whichever comes first - from a 10.30 start, can't see them doing the lot by 4!

Edited by repcobrabham, 02 October 2012 - 00:26.


#13 Brother Fox

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 02:40

Doesnt daylight savings start next weekend (for those of you in the evolved states)?
Is that 4pm taking that into consideration?


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Posted 02 October 2012 - 03:49

gadzooks you're right! i got confused because daylight saving usually starts on our labour day weekend but that didn't fall on the first weekend of october this year.

it's still going to set up a potential quandry - watch the start of one or the finish of the other? i suspect i'll be banished to the bedroom as it's all on FTA, so won't be able to use foxtel iQ to get best of both worlds.

oh, and good luck with those early wake-ups: the sky is light by 5.30am in sydney now. i'm actually looking forward to the changeover for once, and i start work early too!

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 07:03

Did they ever come out with a new GTHO in Australia?

Nope.

There just isn't the money to do the engineering work on getting the rest of the car up to scratch to cope with drive train out of a hot Shelby Mustang or similar I think. I think to cover the R&D costs it would need to be expensive as a E63 or M5, nice and all but hard to sell with a Ford badge on it... :|

Edited by V8 Fireworks, 02 October 2012 - 07:07.


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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:18

Hmmm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but the GTHOs were sold in limited numbers as road cars for homologation, and the others were race cars that you could order, pick up, and drive to Bathurst, and race. With the legal banning due to an hysterical newspaper article, such a concept died after the GTHO Phase III. Although the IV program was already finished, but he cars were sold with the fast road bits, but not as GTHOs. Evidently there was a single green GTHO Phase IV sold, and three race cars. They'd all be worth a bit now.

Edited by Melbourne Park, 02 October 2012 - 11:20.


#17 wonk123

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:19

Craig Lowndes, Brocky Tribute

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#18 Brother Fox

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:32

Wow. I like it, it doesnt look good but its awesome.
Full marks to Vodafone for letting go of thier sponsorship/logo rights to just have the word

Edit: The retro Falcons now make sense to me too ... the 50th Anniversary .... yeah, not the sharpest tool

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#19 wonk123

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:35

Love the falcons paint job as well. The cynic in me wonders if Malboro coughed up any cash for 888

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#20 Brother Fox

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:49

Wouldnt surprise me

#21 dave34m

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 08:50

Last year with this boring 2 car formula, finally next year we get 2 more manufactuers

#22 krapmeister

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:27

The whole grid should be in retro livery :up:

#23 Alfisti

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 20:09

Last year with this boring 2 car formula, finally next year we get 2 more manufactuers


Myth. There are no manufacturers, especially as of next year. It's the same bloody car.

#24 gm914

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 20:39

Myth. There are no manufacturers, especially as of next year. It's the same bloody car.

So they're going with a spec-template chassis, like NASCAR?

Lame.

#25 Alfisti

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 20:41

So they're going with a spec-template chassis, like NASCAR?

Lame.


They basically have for the past 10 years. bugger all difference.

#26 dave34m

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 22:47

Myth. There are no manufacturers, especially as of next year. It's the same bloody car.

No way are they the same car, they have a spec chassis but they are all powered by different engines or have I got that wrong.
Nissan have a new engine, http://www.v8superca...64/default.aspx

In New Zealand the cars really are the same, the Fords are powered by GM, hows that for a rubbish series

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 22:52

the mercs are going to be adaptations of DTM models with benz front ends. there'll be some serious sandbagging involved!

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 23:02

Dont they do something stupid like hobbling one if it has a natural (in its design) advantage over the other?


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:34

the mercs are going to be adaptations of DTM models with benz front ends. there'll be some serious sandbagging involved!


Won't share anything, chassis wise, with the DTM car.

The M-B V8Supercar will be an E-class Mercedes Benz body cut to fit the standard chassis, using a 5l quad cam V8 (maybe the engine will be related). The aero will be pure V8Supercar.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:11

right you are, i think they're adapting the engine. didn't mean to suggest they were using the DTM car wholesale, that wouldn't be very fair!

#31 teejay

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:38

Go Craig.

Up at 6am Perth time, watch all of it until the F1 kicks off.

#32 dave34m

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 05:22

One thing is for sure, if Holden can't beat it they will regulate it until they can or just ban it outright.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 11:02

One thing is for sure, if Holden can't beat it they will regulate it until they can or just ban it outright.


TBH Holden doesn't hold anywhere near as much sway as they used to, Ford will be gone in the near future IMO - it is obvious that V8Supercars are now looking further afield and spruiking themselves as a potential 'world' category/championship. So they won't ban it, they don't want to scare potential manufacturers away by banning one of the 2 new 'manufacturers' - even though the Mercs are just a privateer entry, they will be hoping that it turns into a full manufacturer entry in future. Same for Nissan - they won't ban them either What they will do is regulate engine parity so that all engines are relatively equal in performance, as the chassis effectively are spec now anyway...

#34 Wuzak

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:57

Theoretically, none of the teams are factory entered. Just factory supported, and not all the teams presently are supported.

Edited by Wuzak, 04 October 2012 - 12:57.


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 13:50

Tru-Blu

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 13:53

It seems that they aren't running that livery

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#37 karne

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 14:00

My brain:

Lowndsey in Brocky car. :love: *shedding tears*

Luff in Brocky car: :down: :down: :down: :mad: :mad: :mad: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE AND A DISGRACE!


I'm totally screwed.

#38 Alfisti

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 14:40

The engines are all about equal anyway, you're dead set kidding yourself, it's a spec series and has been for years and years.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 19:52

The engines are all about equal anyway, you're dead set kidding yourself, it's a spec series and has been for years and years.

It really has been with Ford and Holden but hopefully we will see some change next year. It has become so boring that it really needs these newbes

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 22:46

Tru-Blu

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That would have ROCKed hehehehe

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 22:49

It seems that they aren't running that livery

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i think one car (moffat / davison) is running the retro strip while the other car is standard. guessing vodafone are doing that too?

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 23:21

i think one car (moffat / davison) is running the retro strip while the other car is standard. guessing vodafone are doing that too?


Looking at the photos from yesterday, none of the other DJR cars (12, 18 & 49) have the Tru-Blue scheme.
Car 18, which is normally in the Norton colours has the regular Jim Beam colours.

Edit: I've done some more reading and the Tru-Blue colours will only appear on Sunday. Something to do with only one set of panels.

Edited by MalcolmC, 05 October 2012 - 00:39.


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:04

One set of panels?? Geez what happened to the days of 3 rattle cans of ford blue and some stickers!!!

:)

Looking forward to this..... Bathurst followed by Suzuka *could* put a little strain on the marriage however!!

#44 repcobrabham

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:26

that's what the second TV is for! i've also got the wallabies v argentina test before the great race kicks off, so the wife won't be seeing me for close to 12 hours...

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:30

She's still gunna hate the fact that I'll have the surround sound, air-con and the 65" tv lol :)

#46 Wuzak

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:42

Looking at the photos from yesterday, none of the other DJR cars (12, 18 & 49) have the Tru-Blue scheme.
Car 18, which is normally in the Norton colours has the regular Jim Beam colours.

Edit: I've done some more reading and the Tru-Blue colours will only appear on Sunday. Something to do with only one set of panels.


That is good news.

Tru-Blu does look good!

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:38

Dont they do something stupid like hobbling one if it has a natural (in its design) advantage over the other?


Project Blueprint required all the car shapes to have negligible differences in terms of aerodynamics. I can only assume these new things next year will be up to the same scrutiny.

#48 Wuzak

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:06

Project Blueprint required all the car shapes to have negligible differences in terms of aerodynamics. I can only assume these new things next year will be up to the same scrutiny.


Yes.

So far testing of the CotF has been the chassis, tyres and drivetrain. They will soon be starting aero testing.

Holdsworth tested the Ford CotF at Bathurst in the co-drivers' session yesterday, not being officially timed but apparently doing runs in the 2m10s range.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:20

first big crash of the weekend:

http://wwos.ninemsn....aspx?id=8543524

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:25

Looking at Natsoft Dunlop series runner Chas Mostert qualified at a 2.07 .83. Only 3/10 slower than Whincups 'main game' lap. Not a bad effort in what is supposedly a slower spec car.
Those guys in FF are either very brave,, or dumb as that circuit is pretty dangerous for an open wheeler though from the footage it seems that 11/10ths is the norm!!

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 05 October 2012 - 09:27.