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#351 Richard T

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 14:18

Daniel Abt graduates to GP2 with Lotus GP


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#352 Tufty

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 14:28

Daniel Abt graduates to GP2 with Lotus GP

Hardly a huge surprise, but great news nonetheless. Hopefully he can give Calado a run for his money, and we'll see both drivers become a serious F1 prospect.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 15:00

DAMS: Marcus Ericsson – Stéphane Richelmi
Lotus: James Calado – Daniel Abt
Arden: Johnny Cecotto jr. (?) – Mitch Evans (?)
Racing Engineering: Fabio Leimer (?) – Nigel Mansell (?)
Carlin: Felipe Nasr – Jolyon Palmer
iSport: Kevin Mirocha (?) – Pål Varhaug (?)
Caterham: Alexander Rossi (?) – Simon Trummer (?)
Addax: Rio Haryanto – Jake Rosenzweig (?)
Rapax: Stefano Coletti – Daniel Juncadella (?)
Trident: Julián Leal (?) – Sergio Canamasas (?)
Ocean: Kevin Ceccon (?) – Ramon Piñeiro (?)
Lazarus: René Binder (?) – Giancarlo Serenelli (?)
MP: Daniёl de Jong – Rodolfo Gonzalez (?)


#354 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 15:01

Excellent Mansell gag.

#355 billm99uk

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 16:53

great news...now I hope Abt gets the second seat...then I'm completely happy


You happy now?  ;)



#356 KingB

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 20:19

You happy now?  ;)

For sure ;)

#357 BackmarkerUK

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 22:17

Alexander Sims has been announced at Hexis to drive in the Blancpain Endurance Series - as it's likely there will be clashes (on 29th and 30th June, 27th and 28th July, 21st and 22nd September), I'm going to take it that he won't be driving in GP2 next season. He was always a long shot because of budgetary pressures. So it seems the final seat at Addax is between Rosenzweig and Quaife-Hobbs; Rosenzweig probably has more money, but Quaife-Hobbs is a better driver, and with Haryanto's money they probably don't need Rosenzweig as much.

#358 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 23:11

With GP2 rides going for 2mil each, I doubt Haryanto is subsidising the second car much. And he'd have to be a fool to fall for it.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:11

With GP2 rides going for 2mil each, I doubt Haryanto is subsidising the second car much. And he'd have to be a fool to fall for it.


€2 million is just the average cost though, and seats at top teams go for more. And the worse a driver is, the more they have to pay for a seat. And the more competitive seats that are taken off the market, the more seats cost. So with Haryanto denied at Carlin, ART and DAMS, Addax will have been able to ask for more from him in order for him to get a competitive seat (which Addax should be). So, to my mind, Haryanto is likely paying over the odds for his seat at Addax.

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#360 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:26

Possibly, but not by a significant factor. And knowing racing teams, they put that in the bank rather than against the other car.



#361 charly0418

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 20:34

Some of this years crop who have F1 future and are still young:
- James Calado
- Daniel Abt
- Jhonny Cecotto (last chance for him)
- Felipe Nasr
- Mitch Evans


Don't see anyone else interesting, Ericsson could win it but he's too old now

#362 tomisumi

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 21:05

Some of this years crop who have F1 future and are still young:
- James Calado
- Daniel Abt
- Jhonny Cecotto (last chance for him)
- Felipe Nasr
- Mitch Evans


Don't see anyone else interesting, Ericsson could win it but he's too old now


For me Quaife-Hobbs too. I´m really looking forward to his season (when he get a seat)

#363 Kyo

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:01

Some of this years crop who have F1 future and are still young:
- James Calado
- Daniel Abt
- Jhonny Cecotto (last chance for him)
- Felipe Nasr
- Mitch Evans


Don't see anyone else interesting, Ericsson could win it but he's too old now


- James Calado - 23yo
- Jhonny Cecotto (last chance for him) - 23yo
- Ericsson - 22yo

just for comparison Razia has 23yo and Valsecchi 25yo

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:37

- James Calado - 23yo
- Jhonny Cecotto (last chance for him) - 23yo
- Ericsson - 22yo

just for comparison Razia has 23yo and Valsecchi 25yo


Oh, to be a "has been" at 23 :rolleyes:

#365 Kyo

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:12

Oh, to be a "has been" at 23 :rolleyes:

Sorry, but english is not my native language and i didn't get what did you mean.

#366 Jimisgod

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:36

- James Calado - 23yo
- Jhonny Cecotto (last chance for him) - 23yo
- Ericsson - 22yo

just for comparison Razia has 23yo and Valsecchi 25yo


What a joke. I expect it to open up in F1 if Perez proves himself well against Button.

Massa and Webber are on borrowed time, Grosjean is older than Lewis and Sutil returning? Really? A few seats will open next year.

No doubt it will be sugar daddy cash over money in deciding the drivers though.

Not really on topic, but Rigon has been at Ferrari for 2 years, how are his chances?


#367 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 12:09

Webber isn't on borrowed time, jesus.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 15:31

Sorry, but english is not my native language and i didn't get what did you mean.


Just wishing I was that young, even if my career was finished...

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 15:49

Webber isn't on borrowed time, jesus.


He is, for gods sake Vettel beat him by more than 100 points this season. The only reason Red-Bull haven't replaced him is because they don't know who to promote or sign. Also the last race on Brazil showed just how poor Webbers last half was, he almost took out Vettel.

This will be Webber last year in Red Bull and Massa last year in Ferrari. No doubt

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 15:57

This will be Webber last year in Red Bull and Massa last year in Ferrari. No doubt


The same was said before 2012... Though truth is, sooner or later their journey has to come to an end.

#371 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 16:14

It will come to an end, but both teams keep resigning them. And Webber has been performing better than Massa.

#372 charly0418

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 16:43

It will come to an end, but both teams keep resigning them. And Webber has been performing better than Massa.


Really? Massa?

Of course he's gonna beat freaking Massa, his car is like 100 times better

#373 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 16:46

Relative to their own achievable performances, not to each other or any other teams.

#374 charly0418

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 17:01

But you're comparing him to the "worst" driver of the top 3 teams!

I mean, don't get me wrong he's a solid driver, but the last 2 years worry me, Vettel has DESTROYED him. This year even when they got completely equal treatment Vettel beat him by more than 100 points! Hate to say it but as soon as he got the contract for 2013 he just didn't seem to care anymore, the only impressive thing he did was get the Korean GP pole, but even then, he got off to yet another horrible start there and Vettel passed him.


Anyways we're getting out of topic here, it's about GP2 not Webber

Edited by charly0418, 26 December 2012 - 17:03.


#375 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 17:29

Yeah but I don't trust your insights on GP2 if that's how you view F1.

#376 BackmarkerUK

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 17:54

Nigel Melker looks more likely to end up in Formula Renault 3.5 than GP2. Source, so I've moved him down the lists.

DAMS
Team Principal: Jean-Paul Driot
Marcus Ericsson (confirmed)
Stéphane Richelmi (confirmed)

Lotus GP
Team Principal: Frédéric Vasseur; Nicolas Todt ; Technical Director: Guillaume Capietto
James Calado (confirmed)
Daniel Abt (confirmed)

Arden International
Team Principal: Christian Horner; Garry Horner ; Technical Director: Julian Rouse
Johnny Cecotto, Jr. (confirmed)
Mitch Evans (tested with Arden International at Barcelona and Jerez; GP3 champion; drove for MW Arden in GP2 in 2012)
Simon Trummer (current driver; tested with Arden International at Barcelona)
Adrian Quaife-Hobbs (tested with Arden International at Jerez; Auto GP champion - may lack funding)

Marussia Carlin
Team Principal: Trevor Carlin ; Technical Director: Colin Hale
Felipe Nasr (confirmed)
Jolyon Palmer (confirmed)

Racing Engineering
Team Principal: Alfonso de Orléans-Borbón
Fabio Leimer (current driver; tested for Racing Engineering at Jerez - may be off to DTM though)
Facundo Regalia (tested for Racing Engineering at Barcelona; has backing from Argentinean sponsors)
René Binder (tested for Racing Engineering at Jerez)
André Negrão (tested for Racing Engineering at Barcelona)
Nigel Melker (tested for Racing Engineering at Jerez and Barcelona)
Gianmarco Raimondo (tested for Racing Engineering at Barcelona)

iSport International
Team Principal: Paul Jackson
Sergio Canamasas (tested for iSport International at Jerez)
Facundo Regalia (tested for iSport International at Barcelona; has backing from Argentinean sponsors)
Pål Varhaug (tested for iSport International at Barcelona)
Kevin Mirocha (tested for iSport International at Jerez)

Caterham Racing
Team Principal: Riad Asmat ; Technical Director: Humphrey Corbett
Alexander Rossi (all but confirmed; tested for Caterham Racing at Barcelona and Jerez; Caterham Development Driver; drove for Caterham Arden in Formula Renault 3.5 in 2012)
Simon Trummer (tested for Caterham Racing at Jerez)
Lucas Foresti (tested for Caterham Racing at Barcelona)

Barwa Addax Team
Team Principal: Alejandro Agag; Iganacio Muñoz-Alonso ; Technical Director: Chris Murphy
Rio Haryanto (confirmed)
Jake Rosenzweig (current driver; tested for Barwa Addax Team at Barcelona and Jerez)
Adrian Quaife-Hobbs (tested for Barwa Addax Team at Barcelona; Auto GP Champion)

Rapax
Team Principal: Gianfranco Sovernigo; Andrea Bergamini ; Technical Director: Marco Gadola
Stefano Coletti (confirmed)
Daniel Juncadella (tested for Rapax at Barcelona and Jerez; FIA European Formula 3 Champion; has backing from Astana)

Trident Racing
Team Principal: Maurizio Salvadori ; Technical Director: Luca Zerbini
Julián Leal (current driver; tested for Trident Racing at Barcelona and Jerez)
Sergio Canamasas (tested for Trident Racing at Jerez)

Ocean Racing Technology (might not have enough money to complete another season of GP2)
Team Principal: Tiago Monteiro; José Guedes
Kevin Ceccon (tested for Ocean Racing Technology at Barcelona; drove for Ocean Racing Technology in GP3 in 2012)
Ramón Piñeiro (tested for Ocean Racing Technology at Barcelona and Jerez)

Venezuela GP Lazarus
Team Principal: Tancredi Pagiaro
Giancarlo Serenelli (former driver; Venezuela GP Lazarus say they will have two Venezuelan drivers next season; has backing from Venezuelan sponsors)
Rodolfo González (Venezuela GP Lazarus say they will have two Venezuelan drivers next season; has backing from Venezuelan sponsors)
René Binder (current driver; tested for Venezuela GP Lazarus at Barcelona)
Kevin Giovesi (tested for Venezuela GP Lazarus at Barcelona and Jerez)
Kevin Mirocha (tested for Venezuela GP Lazarus at Jerez)

MP Motorsport
Team Principal: Sander Dorsman
Daniël de Jong (confirmed)
Rodolfo González (tested with MP Motorsport alongside Daniël de Jong in Auto GP World Series' test)
Luca Filippi (tested with Coloni at Barcelona)
Fabio Onidi (tested with Coloni at Jerez)
Nigel Melker (drove for MP Motorsport in Formula Renault 2.0 in 2009)
Eddie Cheever Jr. (tested with Coloni at Barcelona)

German consortium (rumoured to be interested in purchasing Ocean Racing Technology)
Meritus GP (has applied to compete in GP2 before; former GP2 Asia outfit; team principal was at the test in Barcelona)
Stefan Grand Prix (former F1 applicant)

Edited by BackmarkerUK, 08 January 2013 - 19:32.


#377 Dolph

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 19:22

He is, for gods sake Vettel beat him by more than 100 points this season. The only reason Red-Bull haven't replaced him is because they don't know who to promote or sign. Also the last race on Brazil showed just how poor Webbers last half was, he almost took out Vettel.

This will be Webber last year in Red Bull and Massa last year in Ferrari. No doubt


Webber was offered a seat in Ferrari. He will hardly be out of job.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 21:14

So any word on whether Evans has secured the funding he needs? Seems like he's not looking at anything else so Arden GP2 or broke*?


* V8 Supercars

#379 HistoryFan

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:32

Is there any news about Ocean?

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:44

Will Kevin Magnussen do another season in WSR? I was hoping he'd move up for '13.

Edited by race addicted, 28 December 2012 - 11:45.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:13

Will Kevin Magnussen do another season in WSR? I was hoping he'd move up for '13.

He's doing WSR for DAMS. Wise chioce IMO.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:14

Will Kevin Magnussen do another season in WSR? I was hoping he'd move up for '13.

He's doing WSR for DAMS. Wise chioce IMO.

#383 goldenboy

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:14

He is, for gods sake Vettel beat him by more than 100 points this season. The only reason Red-Bull haven't replaced him is because they don't know who to promote or sign. Also the last race on Brazil showed just how poor Webbers last half was, he almost took out Vettel.

This will be Webber last year in Red Bull and Massa last year in Ferrari. No doubt

It's quite likely neither of Red Bulls rookies would have done better than webber, and vettel is definately a great talent.

Anyway back on topic, am hoping evans can land this arden seat, getting a bit worried for him but it seems a no brainer to me. Suppose it's still being worked out financially? And if that's the case and he doesn't get it this year, would be damn hard I presume for him to get in the year after if the prize money from pirelli for winning GP3 is only for this year if he moves up to GP2. Anyone know if that's the case?

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:20

Arden traditionally announce their drivers at the Autosport show: that doesn't mean they don't already have their drivers signed up.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:25

Arden traditionally announce their drivers at the Autosport show: that doesn't mean they don't already have their drivers signed up.

thanks :up:

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 15:44

Arden traditionally announce their drivers at the Autosport show: that doesn't mean they don't already have their drivers signed up.


Indeed; Cecotto said on Venezuelan TV that he's signed, and given the lack of rumoured alternatives it would seem that Mitch Evans has been signed already too.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 17:05

Perhaps Franz Hilmer is the head of the German consortium that wanted to buy Ocean because he wanted also to etablish an own F1 team in the past.
Now he is in a argument with the Brabham family for the rights of the Brabham name.

#388 KingB

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:38

Perhaps Franz Hilmer is the head of the German consortium that wanted to buy Ocean because he wanted also to etablish an own F1 team in the past.
Now he is in a argument with the Brabham family for the rights of the Brabham name.

No, he isn't ;)
but he told, that the deal should be announced very soon

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:54

Ocean maybe be sold to Germans.
http://translate.goo...d...tml&act=url

#390 HistoryFan

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:34

sold to a F1 supplier - perhaps it's really Hilmer?

#391 KingB

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 13:03

it is.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 14:04

'Rejoice tweeps! We hear a driver will be announced soon... Care to venture a guess? #GP2'

Another to be confirmed soon then.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 14:20

'Rejoice tweeps! We hear a driver will be announced soon... Care to venture a guess? #GP2'

Another to be confirmed soon then.


I would guess that it will be Caterham announcing Alexander Rossi, or Rapax announcing Daniel Juncadella.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 14:32

If it's true Arden wait till autosport show to announce which is in a few days, hopefully it's confirming evans.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 15:06

Very good chance I would think. I've read a few Kiwi news articles and Mitch says things that indicate he has a GP2 drive, though of course he does not state who with.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 15:24

So it will be Cecotto jr. and evans at Arden?

#397 billm99uk

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 22:10

So any word on whether Evans has secured the funding he needs? Seems like he's not looking at anything else so Arden GP2 or broke*?


* V8 Supercars


I'd be shocked if Evans didn't get a decent seat, even coming from a country with few obvious funding sources like NZ. Maybe if he hadn't actually won the title he'd have been in trouble though...


#398 KingB

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:22

so it's Cecotto at Arden  ;) Announcement

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 17:10

Update: cecotto jr. to Arden

DAMS: Marcus Ericsson – Stéphane Richelmi
Lotus: James Calado – Daniel Abt
Arden: Johnny Cecotto jr. – Mitch Evans (?)
Racing Engineering: Fabio Leimer (?) – Nigel Melker (?)
Carlin: Felipe Nasr – Jolyon Palmer
iSport: Kevin Mirocha (?) – Pål Varhaug (?)
Caterham: Alexander Rossi (?) – Simon Trummer (?)
Addax: Rio Haryanto – Jake Rosenzweig (?)
Rapax: Stefano Coletti – Daniel Juncadella (?)
Trident: Julián Leal (?) – Sergio Canamasas (?)
Ocean: Kevin Ceccon (?) – Ramon Piñeiro (?)
Lazarus: René Binder (?) – Giancarlo Serenelli (?)
MP: Daniёl de Jong – Rodolfo Gonzalez (?)


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 14:57

Nothing happens atm, besides that Trident revealed, they want to announce their drivers soon...

So while we wait, I found an interesting article (it's in German), where they list who would've won GP2 with an F1 system...(so counting feature races only...without reversed grid)

And interestingly...Timo Glock earned less points in the races than Lucas di Grassi...and still got champion with a gap of eleven points (due to poles and fastest laps).