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#201 Longtimefan

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 19:47

Well, looks like I need a new driver, they're all too nice though. :/


Same but I'll do the same as I did in 07-09, just watch the race and not support anyone in particular.

No current driver gives me the thrill that Michael did in 91-92 that made me a lifelong fan.


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#202 Garagiste

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 19:52

Well it was all starting to get a bit Graham Hill, so it's about time and no surprise.

#203 Juan Kerr

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 20:03

Nico has about as much chance of taking another win a Schumacher does.

Mercedes destroyed Michael's second career, and they'll destroy Lewis Hamilton's as well.

Mark my words.

And Rosberg's

#204 carbonfibre

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 20:05

Im glad that michael did come back. I think its sad that Mercedes wasnt able to provide a car that enabled Michael to fight at the front of the field. He got better every year since his comeback as well. Thanks for all the great moments Michael.

#205 weston

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 20:18

Well, looks like I need a new driver, they're all too nice though. :/


Vettel is interesting.
There are quite a lot of similarities between Alonso and Schumacher, and Alonso still has some unfinished business.
That Perez guy looks promising.

#206 Obster

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 20:30

Ditto, Garagiste.
Also agree, my_own_shadow.
MS came from a different F1 game-running flat out-and, like Keke before him, these "economy run" races could not have been much fun.
Still, Seven titles are seven titles...

#207 CSF

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 20:48

JACKIE STEWART says retirement is overdue and should have happened long ago:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/19834309




:lol: Oh the historical errors and the mis-spelling of Clarke/Clark. Good job BBC and SJYS.

Edited by CSF, 04 October 2012 - 20:49.


#208 Nonesuch

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 21:05

I was never as involved with or excited about his three years at Mercedes as I was with his years at Ferrari, but it is nevertheless somewhat sad to see him go. That said, I always thought he'd have done well if he could at least get a trophy - which he did in Valencia. In that respect I can't be too disappointed. Mercedes though obviously still has a long way to go before it can be called a top team. It'll be interesting to see what Hamilton can do next year.

Thanks Michael! :up:

#209 Tarzaan

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 21:12

One of the worst thing is IMHO he would not get too much support from the Merc for his last races...

#210 Paco

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 21:19

Pirelli and the The Technical Working had way more to do with MS form the past 3 years then Mercedes. He simply could never grasp how best to use the tires and really, how to drive lap after lap conservatively - hence why he was a caged animal and causing some silly crashes. Not driving on limit lap after lap as he was used to must be very fustrating and not very enjoyable as far a challenge is concerned, couple that with the DRS making passes simple and its not was he necessarily enjoyed or choose to cope with moving forward.

Frankly, the more I ponder it the more it makes sense to call it a day. Mercedes haven't given any reasons to indicate 2013 will be any more successful the this year. Tires are still going to be the same headaches for him. Only option would be another team and he's probably not up for that a 3rd time! Ferrari Mercedes then another one...

#211 dav115

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 21:39

I'm absolutely gutted he's leaving, and my already dwindling interest in this sport will mostly disappear from 2013. That said he'll always rank as the greatest driver I've seen, and luckily the one GP I witnessed him at (Britain '12) he was on it the whole weekend. Best of luck in the remaining races Michael, and thanks for all the great memories you've given me over the years.

...This championship's back in our hands now...we win the last six races we win the championship


I'll take that quote to my grave :up: .

#212 BigCHrome

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 21:43

And nothing of value was lost.

:lol: Haha no, I'm kidding. He had some nice results, and it was nice to see him back in F1 one last time even if it didn't bring any results.

#213 SCUDmissile

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 21:46

What are you guys talking about? Michael Schumacher has been retired almost 6 years now.
This was his final season. And by god he was brilliant in it.





 ;) btw @dav115, the good bit starts 4:07

#214 aditya-now

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 21:58

Don't forget to mention that KR is driving a car that is significantly better than any of the 3 iterations of the Mercedes.

Fair is fair.



Don't forget to mention that MSC is driving a car that has won a GP this year - the car Kimi drives is no GP winner.

Fair is fair.

#215 Longtimefan

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 22:01

I have a huge amount of respect for JYS but he's talking a load of rubbish there.

But its for the BBC and they LOVE anything negative about MS. pitiful indeed


#216 Longtimefan

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 22:02

Don't forget to mention that MSC is driving a car that has won a GP this year - the car Kimi drives is no GP winner.

Fair is fair.


and where was Michael in THAT race?

ohhhh yeah, the team let him down AGAIN...


#217 Kompressor

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 22:35

Pirelli and the The Technical Working had way more to do with MS form the past 3 years then Mercedes. He simply could never grasp how best to use the tires and really, how to drive lap after lap conservatively - hence why he was a caged animal and causing some silly crashes. Not driving on limit lap after lap as he was used to must be very fustrating and not very enjoyable as far a challenge is concerned, couple that with the DRS making passes simple and its not was he necessarily enjoyed or choose to cope with moving forward.


:rolleyes: It's been nothing but excuses since the first season. I'm glad there are only six more races left. I never saw any passion or desire from him. A new generation of F1 fans were introduced to a journeyman driver who failed to live up to expectations. :well:


#218 Rocket73

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 22:39

goodbye

#219 George Costanza

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 22:40

I would have loved to see him do it for another season. However, he said back in 2009, it would be a three year project. If anything, this shows us what a racer he was even significantly past his prime days of 1995-2002 seasons. The pole at Monaco in 2012 told us that he can perform at this level even at his age. The speed was there and the skill sets were clearly visable from that pole; almost vintage Michael when he was changing brake bias in the corner at Monaco like he would do with Benetton and Ferrari on the edge. I certainly had the absolute pleasure of following and watching his career from the 1990's and now. Even if he's past it, he can thrill us like no other driver can even in his "down" periods of his career and "highs." Top three driver of all time, indeed. Certainly the best I have seen. Countless of wonderful races and poles he had (2012 Monaco is one of them).

I can say this with confidence... There will never be another Michael Schumacher.

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#220 warmandog

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 23:06

Don't forget to mention that MSC is driving a car that has won a GP this year - the car Kimi drives is no GP winner.

Fair is fair.

Oh yeas... that means nothing. not to mention that williams also won a race. and that sauber was about to win too. something else?

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 23:45

I was never as involved with or excited about his three years at Mercedes as I was with his years at Ferrari, but it is nevertheless somewhat sad to see him go. That said, I always thought he'd have done well if he could at least get a trophy - which he did in Valencia. In that respect I can't be too disappointed. Mercedes though obviously still has a long way to go before it can be called a top team. It'll be interesting to see what Hamilton can do next year.

Thanks Michael! :up:


Sums up my thoughts pretty well.

Edited by PorcupineTroy, 04 October 2012 - 23:46.


#222 dave34m

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 23:56

What are you guys talking about? Michael Schumacher has been retired almost 6 years now.
This was his final season. And by god he was brilliant in it.





;) btw @dav115, the good bit starts 4:07

Oh the denial, some people struggle to live with reality

#223 Kvothe

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 00:03

I didn't think I would be, but I'm quite sad Schumi is retiring again.

Despite what the critics say about his performance since his return, and the illegal advantages he had in the past, He really is a legend and the past three years have seen him improving year on year, adapting to regs, rules and cars completely different to when he retired, to match his much younger team mate this year, and score a great pole position at a track where the driver makes a big difference.One of my regrets is that I wasn't born or introduced to F1 sooner to appreciate just how great he was, of course having watched all of the season reviews, watched many individual races and read opinions on him by journalists I've got an impression of what he achieved, but it's a sad feeling that I was never able to be there at that time and experience history in the making for myself. Regardless of what many will say, F1 will be poorer for his absence, and I think anyone who states that his comeback has tarnished his reputation doesn't understand that it was about a racing god past his prime, buoyed by past glories, fighting against time and new opponents for the chance to sip again from the chalice of success just one more time, his failure making it all the more poignant and him all the more human.

All the best to Schumi, I hope he enjoys his retirement.

Edited by Kvothe, 05 October 2012 - 00:04.


#224 schumimercamg

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 00:21

I didn't think I would be, but I'm quite sad Schumi is retiring again.

Despite what the critics say about his performance since his return, and the illegal advantages he had in the past, He really is a legend and the past three years have seen him improving year on year, adapting to regs, rules and cars completely different to when he retired, to match his much younger team mate this year, and score a great pole position at a track where the driver makes a big difference.One of my regrets is that I wasn't born or introduced to F1 sooner to appreciate just how great he was, of course having watched all of the season reviews, watched many individual races and read opinions on him by journalists I've got an impression of what he achieved, but it's a sad feeling that I was never able to be there at that time and experience history in the making for myself. Regardless of what many will say, F1 will be poorer for his absence, and I think anyone who states that his comeback has tarnished his reputation doesn't understand that it was about a racing god past his prime, buoyed by past glories, fighting against time and new opponents for the chance to sip again from the chalice of success just one more time, his failure making it all the more poignant and him all the more human.

All the best to Schumi, I hope he enjoys his retirement.



Great post.

#225 ali_M

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 00:32

Don't forget to mention that MSC is driving a car that has won a GP this year - the car Kimi drives is no GP winner.

Fair is fair.


Alonso feels Michael would have already won three times in the Sauber. I wonder what Alonso feels Michael would have already done in the Lotus? :)

BTW, the Sauber hasn't won a race and Alonso's opinion of Michael does carry some weight. I tend to agree with him, actually. :)

#226 exmayol

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:48

Alonso's opinion of Michael does carry some weight.


Alonso is smart. He knows what it takes to drive a midfield car after having a race winning machinery for few seasons before. He knows what it takes to always be competetive fighting for top positions. He knows what it's like to be a Ferrari leader. Only selected few would really understand the level of commitment it takes to keep doing it year after year and it seems he does that pretty well. However I bet neither he thinks getting 5 more titles is an easy task nor sees himself competetive 10 years down the road.


#227 tremolo

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:31

Goodbye to the last character in F1. You have amused me during my religious F1-watching years.


Kimi might have something (very brief) to say about that.

Agree with the sentiment though, I will miss MSC immensely. The right decision though I think.

#228 TifosiUSA

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:43

Great post.

Agreed, that was really nice. The noteworthy thing about Schumi's comeback, is that he certainly didn't leave with fewer fans than he had before. :cool:

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:47

Alonso feels Michael would have already won three times in the Sauber. I wonder what Alonso feels Michael would have already done in the Lotus? :)

BTW, the Sauber hasn't won a race and Alonso's opinion of Michael does carry some weight. I tend to agree with him, actually. :)


hey mate, do you have the link in hand in which Fernando says that? Thanks in advance :)

#230 Sakae

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:14

I didn't think I would be, but I'm quite sad Schumi is retiring again.

Despite what the critics say about his performance since his return, and the illegal advantages he had in the past,...


?

I do disagree with my colleagues in here, but underlined remark actually underminded what could have been otherwise good posting.

#231 Zippel

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:45

Its been a very long and expensive mid-life crisis.

Edited by Zippel, 05 October 2012 - 04:45.


#232 aliasj

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:47

Now that Schumacher's retiring, will Sky Sports now also come up with their Legends feature for Schumacher too????

#233 Sakae

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:06

Its been a very long and expensive mid-life crisis.


Stefan Nestler for DW

Back then in 2009/2010 the Formula One business was in desperate need of some positive momentum: Renault was embroiled in a scandal surrounding a staged racing accident, BMW and Toyota had decided to go their own way and it was crisis time for the big teams Ferrari and McLaren-Mercedes. The interest in Formula One seemed to be waning.
Back in the spotlight
DW's Stefan Nestler says Schumacher is a true sportsman

Schumacher decided to return and with him came the spotlight. Suddenly Formula One racing was interesting again and people were eager to watch to see how he would fare.

...In the end it has become clear that Schumacher is simply a human being, who could drive faster than anyone else – for a while.


http://www.dw.de/dw/...6284924,00.html


#234 Kvothe

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:20

?

I do disagree with my colleagues in here, but underlined remark actually underminded what could have been otherwise good posting.


I think you should have focused on the proceeding words which were 'what the critics say' but oh well you can't please everyone.

#235 Sakae

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:19

I think you should have focused on the proceeding words which were 'what the critics say' but oh well you can't please everyone.

You can take your own advise, don't make just throaway trolling statments, and then run and hide behind blah blah later one.

#236 Kvothe

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:21

You can take your own advise, don't make just throaway trolling statments, and then run and hide behind blah blah later one.


Seriously what on earth are you talking about?

It wasn't a trolling statement. It was me stating that in spite of what is said by some commentators (of which there are a few) about his performance since his return and illegal advantages he had in the past in my opinion he's still a legend and has impressed me on his comeback.

Now quite frankly I'm done with this weird and bizarre line of discussion, unlike others such as yourself who can barely conceal your dislike for drivers such as Hamilton, I have a healthy respect for all of the drivers and never feel the need to post in other driver threads with the sole aim of winding up a particular fanbase, to which I think my post history could attest. My aim was simply to convey the positive impact his returning to F1 had on me.

It's a shame that overzelous fans such as yourself are not only unable to appreciate another fan offering their best wishes, but seek to find meanings within those words which aren't there.

Adieu!

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:38

I think it is a good thing he had the common sense to call it quits when it was the time. He lost the seat because he thought the team would wait for him; but he is no longer the driver who takes inferior machinery to the sharp end of the grid; he is nowadays the guy who crashes a lot in friday practices, and who is quite evenly matched with Rosberg. People would remember him for his first stint in F1. His second one? It will probably be referred to in similar terms to that of Michael Jordan in Washington.


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:49

Another crash..

Would be better if he retired after this race.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:00

I think it is a good thing he had the common sense to call it quits when it was the time. He lost the seat because he thought the team would wait for him; but he is no longer the driver who takes inferior machinery to the sharp end of the grid; he is nowadays the guy who crashes a lot in friday practices, and who is quite evenly matched with Rosberg. People would remember him for his first stint in F1. His second one? It will probably be referred to in similar terms to that of Michael Jordan in Washington.

Some of the biggest crashes he has had have come during Fri practices even during his first stint..If you do not explore the limits during practice, there is no way you'll find them.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:06

The comeback clearly wasn't what they (Merc and Schuey) had in mind but it was worth the shot. Michael has racing in his blood and that will never change.

Will always be one of the greatest. In a class of his own from 95-06... he made other great, hugely talented drivers seem ordinarily good by comparison.

Thanks for the (Ferrari) memories Schuey :up:

#241 goldenboy

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:10

sayonara schuey! :up:

made me a fan of the guy himself this time around. Got a feeling there are quite a few other people who have come round to liking him this time around from really hating him years ago, so I suppose you could say for a lot of people it increased his legacy in a weird way rather than detract from it.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:32

Another crash..

Would be better if he retired after this race.

Yeah, and take di Resta and Kovalainen with him into retirement ...

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:19

:rolleyes: It's been nothing but excuses since the first season. I'm glad there are only six more races left. I never saw any passion or desire from him. A new generation of F1 fans were introduced to a journeyman driver who failed to live up to expectations. :well:


'never saw any passion'- yeah, it's not like he makes up places at the start or is near the top of the stats in attempted passes or anything. I can't disagree when you say his comeback hasn't lived up to his/Mercedes expectations(that's obvious), but to say he had no passion is incorrect. A 43 year old getting pole in Monaco. Total lack of passion there. ;)


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:24

:rolleyes: It's been nothing but excuses since the first season. I'm glad there are only six more races left. I never saw any passion or desire from him. A new generation of F1 fans were introduced to a journeyman driver who failed to live up to expectations. :well:

You should buy a color TV with sound, it would do you no harm. Racing in 2010 and qualifying in 2011 has been hard stuff for Schumacher but racing in 2011 and qualifying and racing in 2012 was very good considering his age, the Pirellis. A few mistakes here and there, well, some were clumsy and that was not good but he certainly has worked his ass off. Too bad F1* failed him at the times it looked like something was coming.

* Read: FIA (2010, 2011), Pirelli (2011, 2012) and MercedesGP (2011, 2012).

Edited by Jejking, 05 October 2012 - 11:31.


#245 sailor

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:14

Now that Schumacher's retiring, will Sky Sports now also come up with their Legends feature for Schumacher too????


Depends if they think whether he is one .

#246 schumimercamg

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:22

You should buy a color TV with sound, it would do you no harm. Racing in 2010 and qualifying in 2011 has been hard stuff for Schumacher but racing in 2011 and qualifying and racing in 2012 was very good considering his age, the Pirellis. A few mistakes here and there, well, some were clumsy and that was not good but he certainly has worked his ass off. Too bad F1* failed him at the times it looked like something was coming.

* Read: FIA (2010, 2011), Pirelli (2011, 2012) and MercedesGP (2011, 2012).


+1. I would also reccommend some specs.

#247 Jejking

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:44

+1. I would also reccommend some specs.

Hehe.

Depends if they think whether he is one .

If they think Alan Jones is a legend, then Schumacher is a legend too.

#248 PayasYouRace

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 14:21

I found myself rooting for him a lot more during his comeback than in his first career. But it's probably time for him to move on for good.

We'll all move on just like we did in 2007. But this time I think it's more like the right time. Back then it seemed like he was forced out at the top of his game. He's also been forced out this time, but he's not in the same position that he was at the tail end of 2006.

I don't think it has damaged his legacy to the sport. Neither do I think it's enhanced it. It's just been another chapter, and has produced enough memorable moments, good and bad, to be part of the story. OK it wasn't like Lauda's return, but it wasn't like Jones either.

#249 rog

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 14:52

He made it back onto the podium in that dog of a car



In a race where 10 faster cars ahead of him did not finish due to crashes or mechanical failures, so nothing to be proud of.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 15:48

In a race where 10 faster cars ahead of him did not finish due to crashes or mechanical failures, so nothing to be proud of.

Yes but unlike those faster cars he managed not to **** it up.

:kiss: