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#1 ferrarijon123

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:49

Apparently Vettel called to the stewards for blocking Alonso. :eek:

Edited by D.M.N., 06 October 2012 - 09:18.


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#2 Yoshi

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:50

@tomcary_tel Perhaps the fat lady has not yet sung. Vettel called to stewards for allegedly impeding Alonso in Q3

#3 Crossmax

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:51

Apparently Vettel called to the stewards for blocking Alonso. :eek:

But of course.

#4 jrg19

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:51

Vettel called to stewards for impeding Alonso.

#5 bourbon

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:52

When did he impede Alonso?



Edited by bourbon, 06 October 2012 - 06:53.


#6 jrg19

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:52

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#7 jrg19

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:53

When did he impede ALonso?


T16 allegedly

#8 Watkins74

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:53

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#9 Cenotaph

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:53

lol Vettel called to the stewards? haha. What about Vergne, have they dealt with that yet?

#10 RedOne

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:53

When did he impede ALonso?


In q3 obviously

#11 Yoshi

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:54

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#F1 #Suzuka Vettel told me, the alleged impeding was under yellow. So he doesn't understad the problem.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:54

In q3 obviously


That's odd. From the ferrari thread alonso already talked to the tv guys and this wasnt mentioned...

#13 RedOne

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:54

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That's not very nice, is it!

#14 Juggles

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:54

@tomcary_tel Perhaps the fat lady has not yet sung. Vettel called to stewards for allegedly impeding Alonso in Q3


Vettel deserves to be on pole, it would leave a sour taste if he was demoted.

#15 jrg19

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:55

That's not very nice, is it!


:D

#16 ferrarijon123

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:56

Bit strange that Vettel said it wasn't a problem because it was in the yellow flag zone. Turn 16 is the chicane right? So their would've been no yellow flag then.

#17 RedOne

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:56

That's odd. From the ferrari thread alonso already talked to the tv guys and this wasnt mentioned...

Why should he have to mention that?

Edited by RedOne, 06 October 2012 - 06:57.


#18 jrg19

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:56

Depends if Alonso was on a fast lap.

#19 BestCarWins

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:57

Bit strange that Vettel said it wasn't a problem because it was in the yellow flag zone. Turn 16 is the chicane right? So their would've been no yellow flag then.


Just what I was thinking and yes turn 16 appears to be the chicane - http://en.wikipedia....=....svg&page=1


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#20 BestCarWins

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:58

Why should he have to mention that?


Well I would have thought Alonso would have mentioned being blocked that's all.

#21 ferrarijon123

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:58

Depends if Alonso was on a fast lap.

I think it was Alonso's fastest lap as Vettel had backed off his lap through the yellows whereas Alonso finished his only lap of Q3. They were also very close on the live timing.

#22 Cenotaph

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:59

I would imagine Vettel assumed Alonso was aborting his lap, anyway we did see quite a bit of traffic in today's qualifying session that's still to be dealt with.

#23 RedOne

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:59

Bit strange that Vettel said it wasn't a problem because it was in the yellow flag zone. Turn 16 is the chicane right? So their would've been no yellow flag then.

Probably instructed to say that as a response.

#24 SamH123

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:59

Just what I was thinking and yes turn 16 appears to be the chicane - http://en.wikipedia....=....svg&page=1


Yeah but what Vettel probably meant is he would have known Alonso's lap had been ruined by the yellow flag, why does it matter if I block him?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:00

When did he impede Alonso?


porbably when he qualified in front of him :rotfl: starts to get a bit ridicilous

#26 Lazy

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:00

Yeah but what Vettel probably meant is he would have known Alonso's lap had been ruined by the yellow flag, why does it matter if I block him?


That may not wash seeing as Koba got 3rd on that lap.

#27 Watkins74

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:01

It seems strange all these opinions on whether Vettel blocked or not. Did anyone actually see it?

I hate penalties so I am hoping he didn't block Alonso.

#28 ferrarijon123

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:01

Yeah but what Vettel probably meant is he would have known Alonso's lap had been ruined by the yellow flag, why does it matter if I block him?

Just because that part of the lap had been ruined, Doesn't mean that he should assume that Alonso would completely back off the whole lap.

#29 bourbon

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:01

Alonso already admitted that his lap was ruined due to the yellow flag. Now he wants to blame Vettel?

#30 Massa

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:06

Alonso already admitted that his lap was ruined due to the yellow flag. Now he wants to blame Vettel?



Where Alonso wants to blame Vettel ?

#31 Massa_f1

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:10

It will be well harsh if Vettel gets a penalty. Just seems like Ferrari know they are in trouble to me.

#32 fabr68

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:12

Alonso already admitted that his lap was ruined due to the yellow flag. Now he wants to blame Vettel?


Maybe Sebastian impeded before the yellow flag.

Lets see what the investigation says before jumping to conclusions hysterically.

#33 apoka

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:13

Alonso didn't mention blocking in post race interviews. Of course, he doesn't have to, but it's still odd.

#34 ferrarijon123

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:13

Maybe Sebastian impeded before the yellow flag.

Lets see what the investigation says before jumping to conclusions hysterically.

Apparantly he impeded Alonso at turn 16 which would've been after the yellow flag.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:14

porbably when he qualified in front of him :rotfl: starts to get a bit ridicilous


Ridiculous because he could block him? The rules are clear - penalty for blocking. Do you think that Vettel should have special protection?

#36 fabr68

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:14

Apparantly he impeded Alonso at turn 16 which would've been after the yellow flag.


Well that would be a very cheeky move on Alonso.

#37 fabr68

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:16

Ridiculous because he could block him? The rules are clear - penalty for blocking. Do you think that Vettel should have special protection?


Well you know what it is
- Hamilton always deserves penalties
- Vettel is never at fault
- Alonso is always behind the scenes trying to penalize the two above.

It never gets old :lol:

#38 Cenotaph

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:17

Well you know what it is
- Hamilton always deserves penalties
- Vettel is never at fault
- Alonso is always behind the scenes trying to penalize the two above.

It never gets old :lol:

well, there's a reason why it never gets old :smoking:

#39 crbassassin

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:18

Alonso already admitted that his lap was ruined due to the yellow flag. Now he wants to blame Vettel?


Imagine Vettel saying he doesn't care that he blocked Alonso.

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#40 F.M.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:18

Alonso did a 17.7 in S3 of his Q3 lap, which was his best of the whole qualifying session, so I 'would be very surprised if we saw a penalty

Edited by F.M., 06 October 2012 - 07:19.


#41 Diablobb81

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:20

I'm sure Michael also ran to the stewards to complain about Lewis.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:21

Alonso did a 17.7 in S3 of his Q3 lap, which was his best of the whole qualifying session, so I 'would be very surprised if we saw a penalty

This is true, but his S1 time was about 0,2 faster than anything before and S2 was compromised because of Kimi, you have to take that in consideration.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:24

This is true, but his S1 time was about 0,2 faster than anything before and S2 was compromised because of Kimi, you have to take that in consideration.

Yeah, I don't know what the bitching is about here. A tenth extra would have had Alonso starting ahead of Perez... 2 tenths extra he would be starting ahead of Grosjean.

Ferrari have every right to report it to the stewards but I doubt anything will be done about it.

#44 Hanzo

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:26

Apparently Alonso's on board camera shows Vettel blocking him clearly. Source: spanish journalists, but we can not judge without taking a look at that footage I guess...

#45 fabr68

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:27

Yeah, I don't know what the bitching is about here. A tenth extra would have had Alonso starting ahead of Perez... 2 tenths extra he would be starting ahead of Grosjean.

Ferrari have every right to report it to the stewards but I doubt anything will be done about it.


My thoughs as well. It almost seems illegal for Ferrari/Alonso to complain about anything that is done wrong on them.

I doubt there will be any penalty for Vettel even if he did impede Alonso.

#46 SamH123

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:31

Has Kobayashi definitely got away it?

I've forgotten why I was under the impression he had

#47 fabr68

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:32

Apparently Alonso's on board camera shows Vettel blocking him clearly. Source: spanish journalists, but we can not judge without taking a look at that footage I guess...


I remember reading that Vettel looked very scared right after qualy.

#48 Cenotaph

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:33

Man, I really wish we could see the actual onboard before the decision is made.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:33

Well that might explain why finger boy looked a bit sheepish at the weigh in.

Some footage and facts would be nice.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:36

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Cry me a river. :cry:

It's funny how people complain about steward's inconsistency, but then complain when drivers are given penalties for matters like this. Vergne received a penalty. If Vettel blocked Alonso on his hot lap than he deserves to be penalized, nothing else to be added.

Edited by Kingshark, 06 October 2012 - 07:36.