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#201 Boxerevo

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:32

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#202 Seanspeed

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:36

As people have pointed out he didn't do it on purpose so he had no reason to apologize.

So you dont ever apologize to people if you accidentally do something that affects them negatively?

#203 Cool Beans

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:38

So you dont ever apologize to people if you accidentally do something that affects them negatively?

You seriously want him to apologise? :lol:

Edited by beancounter, 06 October 2012 - 18:41.


#204 pUs

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:38

So you dont ever apologize to people if you accidentally do something that affects them negatively?


Seriously. what are you on about?

Do you usually hear the other drivers excusing themselves for causing yellow flags in situations like this? There is nothing to apologize, absolutely nothing.

#205 scandyman

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:39

If Alonso loses title by few points, do we have a scapegoat now? :lol:

#206 Vickyy

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:43

Vettel - Turkey 2010, he rolled his finger in disgust, not PRed, hated all over
Vettel - His finger at every pole/win, not PRed, hated all over
Alonso - Abu Dhabhi 2010, hand waving at Petrov, not PRed, hated all over
Hamilton - Monaco 2011, his remarks for stewards, not PRed, hated all over
Maldonado - Whole 2012, remarks about his luck with stewards, hated all over
Kimi- 2009 end, expressing his motivation for F1, not PRed, FERRARI hated all over

Kimi- Japan 2012, well, appreciated for his "HONESTY" :smoking:

#207 Seanspeed

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:43

You seriously want him to apologise? :lol:

Thats not what I said. I said that its proper to apologize to somebody even if what you did wasn't on purpose.

I've already said how I feel about this 'incident'.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:44

I'm not gonna read through this idiotic thread, but I'm curious: is there any post in here that shows (all) other drivers apologize to the rest of the field after causing a yellow or red flag in practice or qualifying?

Edited by F.M., 06 October 2012 - 18:44.


#209 Clatter

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:46

I'm not gonna read through this idiotic thread, but I'm curious: is there any post in here that shows (all) other drivers apologize to the rest of the field after causing a yellow or red flag in practice or qualifying?


You can probably find plenty of examples of them saying sorry on camera, I doubt they mean it though.

#210 Cool Beans

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:47

Thats not what I said. I said that its proper to apologize to somebody even if what you did wasn't on purpose.

I've already said how I feel about this 'incident'.

Sure buddy.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:48

I'm not gonna read through this idiotic thread, but I'm curious: is there any post in here that shows (all) other drivers apologize to the rest of the field after causing a yellow or red flag in practice or qualifying?


None, of course. And nobody expect them to either. Double standards..

#212 Seanspeed

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 18:49

Sure buddy.

I dont even know what thats supposed to mean. Do you not agree or something?

#213 alframsey

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 19:02

It is poor sportsmanship to say the least.

Jesus Christ, when did F1 become such a soft sport? I wouldn't care if I were in his position.

#214 Mauseri

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 19:56

If you destroy somebody's lap, you shouldn't say "I don't care".

I have not heard drivers apologizing for causing yellow or red flags. Why should Kimi? It's part of the luck factor in F1 and same for everyone.

Or do you think he made it purposely to stop drivers leapfrogging him? In that case he should be penalized, but even Schumi did not apologize for what he did once in Monaco :rotfl:

#215 bub

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 20:20

So you dont ever apologize to people if you accidentally do something that affects them negatively?


Sometimes I do, however an apology isn't really necessary in this instance.

#216 alan

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 20:27

http://www.youtube.c...eature=youtu.be

From the video, i think the annoyance is due to the cockiness and arrogance. He was just rude, plain and simple especially when he said he spun. There is no need for him to apologize.... he just need to grow up a bit i think?

Edited by alan, 06 October 2012 - 20:31.


#217 Massa

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 20:30

http://www.youtube.c...eature=youtu.be

From the video, i think the annoyance is due to the cockiness and arrogance. He was just rude, plain and simple especially when he said he spun. There is no need for him to apologize.... just grow up a bit i think?



It's why many - like me - like him. No BS, no politics, he said the truth and only the truth.


#218 alan

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 20:38

It's why many - like me - like him. No BS, no politics, he said the truth and only the truth.

There is no problem supporting the guy only that there should be consistency in what we say about drivers. Iam sure if that was Hamilton, it would be a thousand comments by now and headlines in newspapers describing him as arrogant and throwing his prams. Kimi was not funny. He just couldn't be bothered. If he does not want to answer the question, then say no comment. No need to act like a prick.

#219 Desdirodeabike

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 20:39

Best thread on the board :rotfl:
Keep it coming :p

Thats not what I said. I said that its proper to apologize to somebody even if what you did wasn't on purpose.

No, that is pretty much what you said. Black on white.

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#220 johnmhinds

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 20:53

There is no problem supporting the guy only that there should be consistency in what we say about drivers. Iam sure if that was Hamilton, it would be a thousand comments by now and headlines in newspapers describing him as arrogant and throwing his prams. Kimi was not funny. He just couldn't be bothered. If he does not want to answer the question, then say no comment. No need to act like a prick.


Yeah because that's what sports fans really want to see, people saying "no comment" during interviews...

Give it a rest on the name calling as well, it wasn't a long thought out interview with him saying he didn't care about the other drivers, it was an off hand comment during a moment of frustration for him and his team.

Of course he didn't care about the other drivers in that moment, he lost out just as much by spinning, and it was only an accident so there was nothing premeditated for him to apologise for.

Edited by johnmhinds, 06 October 2012 - 20:54.


#221 SealTheDiffuser

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 21:26





and for all who want Kimi to aplogize watch full! :smoking:

#222 showtime

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 21:35

Kimi saying he doesn't care about something/someone... Shocking!

#223 King Six

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 21:36

There is no problem supporting the guy only that there should be consistency in what we say about drivers. Iam sure if that was Hamilton, it would be a thousand comments by now and headlines in newspapers describing him as arrogant and throwing his prams. Kimi was not funny. He just couldn't be bothered. If he does not want to answer the question, then say no comment. No need to act like a prick.

Exactly, if it was someone else who only gave shitty one word answers and just acted like an arrogant idiot, people would call them out for it. But when this mope does it, it's "awesome" and "cool" and "refreshing"

I honestly don't get the obsession with this guy. He offers nothing to Formula One, apart from some decent driving now and again. And he has zero likeability and interest in anyone or anything apart from himself.

#224 Fubaaarrr

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 21:49

Best thread on the board :rotfl:
Keep it coming :p


:up: :up: :up:

And for topic, all drivers have 10 minutes to complete their laps. Everyone takes this risk when leaving chances to one try, he doesnt need to apologize to anyone for his own mistake. Its good to have somebody who says things how they are, not what sponsors or anybody else wants.

#225 scheivlak

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 21:59

Just ten words and a 220+ thread already.

Jesus, Wittgenstein and LaoTze face some serious competition :D

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 22:01

There is no problem supporting the guy only that there should be consistency in what we say about drivers. Iam sure if that was Hamilton, it would be a thousand comments by now and headlines in newspapers describing him as arrogant and throwing his prams. Kimi was not funny. He just couldn't be bothered. If he does not want to answer the question, then say no comment. No need to act like a prick.


I think your argument on Lewis has much more to do with the British media than anything else really.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 22:25

I would expect Kimi to apologize if he actually went and hit each of the cars he impeded before spinning out himself. If kimi spun, injured himself seriously and is in hospital now, would you still expect him to apologize? He did not physically hit anybody. I dont remember schumi apologizing for parking in rascasse in monaco

#228 Lister of Smeg

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 22:34

Fantastic thread. We have avoided this subject far too long.
From now on I expect every driver to publicly say something like "I'm very sorry to all other drivers for ruining the overtaking-opportunity in the sector where I made a mistake that put me out of the race" when he gets out of the car.
If someone causes a red flag during qualifying he should get a 5 place grid penalty so that he will learn to drive a little slower next time.

Jesus...

And what a great piece of interviewing it was, after a driver makes a mistake in qualifying causing a yellow flag... "What about the other drivers...."




#229 GiancarloF1

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 23:00

Vettel - Turkey 2010, he rolled his finger in disgust, not PRed, hated all over
Vettel - His finger at every pole/win, not PRed, hated all over
Alonso - Abu Dhabhi 2010, hand waving at Petrov, not PRed, hated all over
Hamilton - Monaco 2011, his remarks for stewards, not PRed, hated all over
Maldonado - Whole 2012, remarks about his luck with stewards, hated all over
Kimi- 2009 end, expressing his motivation for F1, not PRed, FERRARI hated all over

Kimi- Japan 2012, well, appreciated for his "HONESTY" :smoking:


It's called double standard. Kimi is hyped for being an arsehole, while others being hated for it.

At least Alo/Ham/Vet can respect fellow drivers, while Kimi can't.

#230 F1EC

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 23:09

It's called double standard. Kimi is hyped for being an arsehole, while others being hated for it.


This :up:


#231 FenderJaguar

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 23:11

shit thread. and everyone knows it. just pretending they don't so they can sit on a high horse.

#232 tommi34

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 23:14

I'm not saying what he said was the coolest thing ever seen, but I think everyone can see from the video how pissed he is because of his mistake - and then the first question is "Kimi what happened?" :rolleyes: And then next question about the others when he was of course first of all pissed because he ruined his own quali.

I think every driver in the grid - and everybody overall working in F1 - know that Kimi is never a dirty driver and he respects others on the track, fighting hard but always giving room when its needed. So this big fuss about his comment is unnecessary.

Edited by tommi34, 06 October 2012 - 23:16.


#233 SamH123

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 23:23

It's called double standard. Kimi is hyped for being an arsehole, while others being hated for it.

At least Alo/Ham/Vet can respect fellow drivers, while Kimi can't.


I don't really see how you can throw a blanket over all those incidents. Kimi replied a bit grumpily and bluntly to some interview questions whereas the others involved various blame games and insults

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 23:50

I've been and checked and the Guinness World Records committee have confirmed, this is indeed the most precious thread on the Internet. Don't crinkle your crochet, ladies.

#235 weareracing

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 00:00

Just logged on to see what was it that Kimi had said to spawn 6 pages of comments, then I realised it was utter bollocks.
Not what Kimi said, but what people had posted.
Jeesus, what is wrong with people AND the DUMB QUESTION he was asked?
Can we go racing soon, PLEASE?

#236 TheUltimateWorrier

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 00:14

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 00:28

I once accidentally farted in an elevator. The doors opened and a few people who were waiting there smelled it and waited for the next elevator. This made them a couple minutes late for work. later, some tv reporters asked me if I was sorry and I said no (hey, shit happens...everybody farts right?).

Then a bunch of people on the internet got all upset because I wasn't sorry that I had a normal body function and launched all kinds of attacks on my personality, morals, character or lack thereof.

True story.

Edited by 223, 07 October 2012 - 00:32.


#238 Verderer

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 00:35

My my, so much vitriol and hurting words towards Kimi in this thread... go on, just let it all out - but I expect you're going to apologize to Kimi in the morning?

No??? How rude! Double-standards! Rant, rant! [Falls down, foaming at the mouth] :drunk:

#239 Menace

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 01:03

I once accidentally farted in an elevator. The doors opened and a few people who were waiting there smelled it and waited for the next elevator. This made them a couple minutes late for work. later, some tv reporters asked me if I was sorry and I said no (hey, shit happens...everybody farts right?).

Then a bunch of people on the internet got all upset because I wasn't sorry that I had a normal body function and launched all kinds of attacks on my personality, morals, character or lack thereof.

True story.


:lol: :up:

Pretty much sums up the thread, and the usual haters entering giving their "opinion" is such a surprise as well. :D

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 01:04

I've been and checked and the Guinness World Records committee have confirmed, this is indeed the most precious thread on the Internet. Don't crinkle your crochet, ladies.


:rotfl:

#241 Craven Morehead

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 01:43

If he does not want to answer the question, then say no comment. No need to act like a prick.




The last freakin thing I want is the drivers saying "no comment'. That's just rediculous.



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Posted 07 October 2012 - 01:47

Exactly, if it was someone else who only gave shitty one word answers and just acted like an arrogant idiot, people would call them out for it. But when this mope does it, it's "awesome" and "cool" and "refreshing"

I honestly don't get the obsession with this guy. He offers nothing to Formula One, apart from some decent driving now and again. And he has zero likeability and interest in anyone or anything apart from himself.


What are you on about? This thread is full of idiots complaining about Kimi's interview, just like it would be Hammie or Fred.

It's not Kimi's job to be interested in any of the other drivers; quite the opposite actually.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 02:00

Defending Kim is fine but at the end of the day he just comes across as a tool in that interview.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 02:09

The guy has always been a dick, sure he's being honest and not messing about. But he's still a dickhead. I'm not sure why people enjoy it so much that Raikkonen seems so open or careless, when that open character is nothing interesting at all anyway. I didn't realise all you had to do to be 'awesome' was to be honest. John Terry when he racially abused Ferdinand was merely being honest with his feelings, that doesn't make him a better person.

I'm not saying I would prefer he lies, just that this whole honest character isn't really impressive either.

It seems like some people yearn so badly for any form of openness that even the most boring, lifeless and rubbish characters get heaps of praise just for being so.

Each to his own. I'm not one to get excited just because someone swore on TV or something, that doesn't exactly rate highly for me on how I judge someone to be awesome. It's not exactly like he's solving world hunger just because someone bent a few inconsequential rules. Yeah, Kimi is a real anarchist. :rolleyes:

He's so :smoking: :rolleyes:


Agreed.

I remember back in 2005 a photo was being circulated in forums with Alonso in a boat and holding out his middle finger to the camera - which was Photoshopped no less - and he was labeled all sorts of things from being disrespectful to a total jerk. Yet when Kimi showed the middle finger (no Photoshop) to the camera this year, his crazy fans were saying how cool he is and finding it so hilarious that he 'just doesn't give a damn about anything'.

There is nothing cool about Kimi.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:01

This bizarre adoration of "Kimi being Kimi" is mad. I understand - he is a good driver and he is back, yay! - but how long will it take until people (re) realize that there's absolutely nothing cool about the guy; that behind the taciturn facade and monosyllabic speech there's a whole lot of nothing? I know most F1 drivers are not cool or fun, so there's this clutching-at-straws desire to fish out something exciting... but Kimi? Good lord, what desperate state of affairs we are at when this guy is deemed cool. What's next, people worshipping at the altar of the next driver to toss away his steering wheel in disgust?

#246 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:15

Quite frankly this thread is embarassingly pathetic. The fact of the matter is he did NOTHING wrong saying what he did or the way he said it.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:46

This bizarre adoration of "Kimi being Kimi" is mad. I understand - he is a good driver and he is back, yay! - but how long will it take until people (re) realize that there's absolutely nothing cool about the guy; that behind the taciturn facade and monosyllabic speech there's a whole lot of nothing? I know most F1 drivers are not cool or fun, so there's this clutching-at-straws desire to fish out something exciting... but Kimi? Good lord, what desperate state of affairs we are at when this guy is deemed cool. What's next, people worshipping at the altar of the next driver to toss away his steering wheel in disgust?


I think the reason that many get riled by the idea of many finding kimi "cool" is because there is a very large, yet select group of people that tend to like 'characters' and then there are those who simply don't have the time of day for them. Kimi is one of those rare characters - they are who they are and they never change.

Edited by bourbon, 07 October 2012 - 03:57.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:54

Agreed.

I remember back in 2005 a photo was being circulated in forums with Alonso in a boat and holding out his middle finger to the camera - which was Photoshopped no less - and he was labeled all sorts of things from being disrespectful to a total jerk. Yet when Kimi showed the middle finger (no Photoshop) to the camera this year, his crazy fans were saying how cool he is and finding it so hilarious that he 'just doesn't give a damn about anything'.

There is nothing cool about Kimi.



This bizarre adoration of "Kimi being Kimi" is mad. I understand - he is a good driver and he is back, yay! - but how long will it take until people (re) realize that there's absolutely nothing cool about the guy; that behind the taciturn facade and monosyllabic speech there's a whole lot of nothing? I know most F1 drivers are not cool or fun, so there's this clutching-at-straws desire to fish out something exciting... but Kimi? Good lord, what desperate state of affairs we are at when this guy is deemed cool. What's next, people worshipping at the altar of the next driver to toss away his steering wheel in disgust?

You guys have convinced me. Why did I ever like this guy... :confused:

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:40

Haha can't believe this stupid thread has so many replies.. It almost sounds like it came by surprise to some that Kimi doesn't CARE. He didn't CARE in his first career. He didn't CARE when rallying. He still doesn't CARE, and he never will. Kimi never changes - That's why he rocks!

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:51

You guys have convinced me. Why did I ever like this guy... :confused:

yup me too.
Thank you guys for showing us the error of our ways :drunk: