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#1 F.M.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:18

Alonso deserves a penalty for the next race for pushing Kimi off track at the start of the race.

No difference to the incident with Vettel he was whining about at Monza. (Except for the fact Alonso is already out of the race and can't get the drive-through, thus a grid penalty)

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#2 Atreiu

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:20

This whole cry baby penalty culture has to stop. Its racing, there will be clashes, especially when its tight and cramped at the start and two guys fight for the same space.

#3 Massa

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:21

+1

#4 choyothe

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:23

Even though it shouldn't matter the outcomes from the incident matter. The only way Alonso even might get a penalty is Kimi spinning out on the grass and him coming out unscathed.

#5 ali.unal

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:31

I think one should see the difference: Japan incident is the 1st lap one, whereas Monza incident is not. Is not, is not.

#6 03011969

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:36

Alonso deserves a penalty for the next race for pushing Kimi off track at the start of the race.

No difference to the incident with Vettel he was whining about at Monza. (Except for the fact Alonso is already out of the race and can't get the drive-through, thus a grid penalty)

You just sound desperate and lacking in knowledge with a claim like that. Do you really need it spelled out why?

#7 fdspd

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:39

Some people are not satisfied seeing their least favourite driver retire. They like to see them crash, burn and then rot.

It was merely a first corner incident, so obvious that the stewards didn't even bother investigating.

#8 Kingshark

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:41

I'm not saying it's right, but one of the big differences between what happened in Italy and Japan is that; in the clash between Alonso and Vettel at Monza, Alonso got of worse, was pushed wide and lost several seconds. Where as, in the clash between Raikkonen and Alonso today, Fernando once again got of worse and was out of the race while Kimi could continue.

The stewards of the FIA often look at who's been the victim of an incident when deciding what/if any penalty to deliver. That's just how it is, whether we like it or not.

#9 muramasa

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:41


thread title and op content dont match :lol:

Anyway everyone makes mistakes and it wasnt so serious. havent seen replays alot but tbh it looked just racing incident to me.


#10 ArkZ

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:48



Alonso was in sandwich of Mclaren and Sauber and Lotus behind, nothing he can do! Alonso was trying go inside 0.17 but McLaren forced him to stay where he was ,Raikkonen should give up there was no place there, but he probably didn't see anything.

Edited by ArkZ, 07 October 2012 - 08:49.


#11 choyothe

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:56

What sandwich? Look at the space between Alonso and Button all through the straight, all his fault to push Kimi on the grass.

#12 mnmracer

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:06



Alonso was in sandwich of Mclaren and Sauber and Lotus behind, nothing he can do! Alonso was trying go inside 0.17 but McLaren forced him to stay where he was ,Raikkonen should give up there was no place there, but he probably didn't see anything.

Hey pushed Kimi onto the grass long before Button came within 4 feet of him.