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Both 2013 Mercedes drivers have Yellow helmets. Who would give up? [split]


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#201 Tauhid

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 17:16

I have always used the t-cam when it comes to differentiating between drivers in Merc/McLaren or Renault. The helmets they use is only important when it comes to Ferrari because the car is way too red for the T-cam to do us any good.

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#202 olliek88

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 17:24

I instinctively look at drivers helmets (not those ones...) to tell the difference but now both Merc and Toro Rosso drivers have very similar ones i might actually start paying more attention to the T-cams, i'd presume Nico would get the orange one (deemed the number 1 driver for FIA purposes i think) because he's not the new boy.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 18:24

T-Cam, Mercedes logo on the front of the helmets, the shade of yellow, the car number, the green around Hamilton's visor. There's enough to easily distinguish them without having to think too hard, perish the thought.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 18:38

T-Cam, Mercedes logo on the front of the helmets, the shade of yellow, the car number, the green around Hamilton's visor. There's enough to easily distinguish them without having to think too hard, perish the thought.


I don't think any of them are the easiest thing to spot at 200mph and/or from a distance.

#205 garoidb

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 19:07

What a ridiculous reason to change helmet design. They'll do what they want.

If a viewer can't tell the two apart on the track he/she should try harder or keep quiet.


If that's how they feel about their fans, then they have no problem. I doubt you will hear either of them say that, though. Wonder why.

#206 jrg19

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 19:10

I instinctively look at drivers helmets (not those ones...) to tell the difference but now both Merc and Toro Rosso drivers have very similar ones i might actually start paying more attention to the T-cams, i'd presume Nico would get the orange one (deemed the number 1 driver for FIA purposes i think) because he's not the new boy.


Yup 9 and 10

Plus Lewis is bound to have a number of "specials" which might help with distinguishing between the two.

#207 jrg19

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 20:22

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#208 F1ultimate

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 20:27

If only Rosberg had a blue and white helmet like back in the days. Either ways I hope they will remain friends through the hardship that is ahead.

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#209 SB

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:29

I hope the MB team could do us a favor and learn the Ferrari way in the 1980's , by putting additional straps on the front wings and rear wings ( check Berger's car )

http://www.racingdio...raridiorama.jpg

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#210 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:15

It's a bit annoying but to be honest anyone claiming this makes it harder to tell which car is which or something...I'm sorry but if you can't instantly tell which car it is from its position on the track/race, you're not paying close enough attention to the race.

Of course it will be Nico in P8 dicing with the Saubers and Hammy in P13 having a squabble with Maldonado. Easy. :cool:

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:49

I hope the MB team could do us a favor and learn the Ferrari way in the 1980's , by putting additional straps on the front wings and rear wings ( check Berger's car )

http://www.racingdio...raridiorama.jpg


That's not such a bad idea for general use, leaving the helmet colours out of it. Like the rookie stripe in NASCAR. It could be like an extension of the T-cam (WHICH IS NOT HARD TO SEE), red stripes on one car, yellow on the other.

Personally I think the attitude of the Hamilton fans in this thread has been disgusting. Why should Nico be forced to give up his helmet scheme just because Hamilton was coming there? Nico is the established driver in the team, he was there first, and he should get the right to keep or discard his helmet design at HIS choice, not because a few stroppy Hamilton fans think the red carpet should be rolled out for him eveywhere.



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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:12

I hope the MB team could do us a favor and learn the Ferrari way in the 1980's , by putting additional straps on the front wings and rear wings ( check Berger's car )

http://www.racingdio...raridiorama.jpg

These wing markings should be on every car. When you see the 'smog' GP's, you could easily miss the brighter yellow from one of the drivers.

Don't forget, currently, most camera angles are down the straight. You can't see the number and when it's low enough you hardly see the T-com, from the front it is only a small bar, easily missed. Also a view from the back when they enter a straight still leaves the driver in front to be guessed. Starting numbers are hardly distuingishable from the distance they are filming now. Also, more and more cars are 'reflective' or have metallic paint jobs. It reflects light so you can see numbers even worse.

#213 Jejking

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:57

Why should we be worried about this? :rotfl: Just look at the first Mercedes coming blasting through your screen, it's going to be Hamilton, then Rosberg will follow :p

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 22:08

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Good shot of the helmets together.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 22:10

I don't think any of them are the easiest thing to spot at 200mph and/or from a distance.


Live, perhaps but it's absolutely no problem on TV where the cars do not look at all like they're going at those speeds.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:16

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Good shot of the helmets together.



Great Picture. Thank you sooo much.


Still will be hard to tell at speed.

#217 BRG

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 17:38

I watched a football game the other day. It was hopeless. On both teams, ten of the players wore exactly the same kit. Only the two blokes who were standing around at each end of the field wearing gloves had different coloured kit. How was I supposed to tell one player from another?

#218 muramasa

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 17:46


why not paint Lewis's visor strip in turquoise instead of grey.


#219 olliek88

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 17:54

I watched a football game the other day. It was hopeless. On both teams, ten of the players wore exactly the same kit. Only the two blokes who were standing around at each end of the field wearing gloves had different coloured kit. How was I supposed to tell one player from another?


Football's a completely different ball game (  ;) ), you can tell players apart using a combination of their height, hair colour, the way they run, different boots and the big number on the back of their shirts, plus they're not flying past you in a flash, they run around a limited rectangular field which is within eye sight the whole time.

Its not hard to tell F1 drivers apart using their helmets but looking at the helmet becomes instinctive, looking at the T-cams isn't hard but its not the first thing you go to when you look at the car. Don't get me wrong its not a problem to look at the t-cam, just not the easiest solution.

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#220 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 17:56

It's remarkably easy. You just adapt to it and it will become as second nature as looking at the helmets. You're still looking for a colour difference, it's just a little higher up.

#221 BRG

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 18:03

Football's a completely different ball game ( ;) ), you can tell players apart using a combination of their height, hair colour, the way they run, different boots and the big number on the back of their shirts, plus they're not flying past you in a flash, they run around a limited rectangular field which is within eye sight the whole time.

Wait a mo, you might be on to something there....... ;)

#222 Kingshark

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 18:08

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Good shot of the helmets together.

The shades of yellow are quite a bit different. Nico's is much brighter where's Lewis's is dimmer.

#223 Rosaudio

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 18:12

I dont see how people will get confused to be honest.

The difference in shades is quite distinctive.

#224 spacekid

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 18:12

I think the argument about helmet colours is really very silly.

I would like to see all the cars have larger and more clearly marked numbers, maybe even on the nose and sides (oh no! precious ad space!). They seem to have shrunk rather.

#225 Tauhid

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 18:15

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Good shot of the helmets together.


Both of them looking sharp, I liked Lewis' previous helmet even more for some reason. Love his and Fernando's helmets during the Monaco/Singaporean grand prix.