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#1 etceterini.com

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 00:16

Here is a new page I just posted:

http://www.cliffreut...acingphotos.htm

And can we ID this car which I should know:

http://www.cliffreut...racepage/62.jpg

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#2 Barry Boor

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 04:53

The tail reminds me of the Nash Healey from Le Mans in 1953.

#3 David McKinney

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:27

I wondered Allard, but the frontal shots do look more Nash-Healey

#4 arttidesco

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:58

Barry and David seem to be spot on :up:

#5 Ted Walker

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:01

Nash Healey Le Mans car

#6 RA Historian

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 13:52

Absolutely. As pictured in the first post it was being driven by Andy Rosenberger, of the Milwaukee area, who owned and raced it in the mid-1950s. He mostly drove it in the midwest, Road America, Milwaukee, Wilmot Hills, the early area airport circuits etc. He did take it to Sebring one year. c1956 he replaced the rather anemic Nash engine with a Packard V-8.

http://www.racingspo...berger-USA.html

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#7 David McKinney

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 15:00

OTT - I always wondered if Andy Rosenberger, whose name I connect with Jaguars, was related to one-time Mercedes works driver Adolf Rosenberger, who emigrated to the US in 1933

#8 ReWind

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 17:53

@David:
Probably no. Just from looking at their respective life dates:
Adolf Rosenberger b. 1900 (Germany) d. 1967 (USA [California])
Andy Rosenberger b. 1921 (USA [Wisconsin]) d. 1999 (USA [Kentucky])

Rosenberger is a fairly common name.
There is a German rally driver called Friedrich Rosenberger (b. 1931) and an Austrian rally champion called Kris Rosenberger (b. 1969 [Canada]).

#9 David McKinney

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 19:43

Thanks Reinhard

I know the surname's not uncommon - even in the US - but it was the motor-racing angle that made me wonder

As you point out however, the dates don't fit...

#10 Vitesse2

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:34

Thanks Reinhard

I know the surname's not uncommon - even in the US - but it was the motor-racing angle that made me wonder

As you point out however, the dates don't fit...

... and Adolf Rosenberger changed his name to Alan Roberts. :)

#11 Tim Murray

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:03

As Reinhard has posted a couple of times, it's Alan Robert - no 's':

What a difference one single letter makes.
Adolf Rosenberger did not assume the name "Alan Roberts" but the name "Alan Robert" (without "s").

He died in California on 06 December 1967.

This date guides us to his birth date, too, which is 08 April 1900.

More about Rosenberger's fate here (although only in German).

Just to be correct: His American name was Alan Arthur Robert, no "s" at the end.



#12 arttidesco

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 15:09

As Reinhard has posted a couple of times, it's Alan Robert - no 's':



The link to Adolf Rosenbergers fate has moved to this link.

In summary it says that Adolf had a 15% interest in the Dr. Ing.hcF Porsche GmbH design office which Ferdinand Porsche appears to have taken over after Adolf's arrest, for being Jewish, in 1935.

Porsche and Rosenberger settled in 1950, Adolf was given 50,000 marks and a VW Beetle.