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#51 Don_Humpador

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 01:51

Not showing in the times yet but on eye test, the Sauber looks sharp and responsive to me, and with a bit more setup work...

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#52 OO7

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 01:54

According to Ted K, McLaren have re-profiled the exhaust exits slightly which may be a contributory factor to this unique sound.

#53 sock22

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 01:58

What's Hamilton doing? He's certainly not focusing on lap times at the moment

EDIT - as I say that he gets up to speed :lol:

Edited by sock22, 12 October 2012 - 02:00.


#54 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:02

Hamilton set that lap on rather old tyres and it wasn't the best lap.

#55 Starish

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:11

RAI, BOT, KOV, - 16,17,18..FINNS!

#56 ElDictatore

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:12

Third sector seems like the 'Bull-Sector' this time.

#57 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:13

RAI, BOT, KOV, - 16,17,18..FINNS!


Kova less than 3 seconds behind Alonso too. Interesting.

#58 Kelateboy

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:14

Red Bull S3 time is at least 0.4s faster than their nearest competitors, but their S1 and S2 times need major improvement.

#59 SamH123

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:17

Alonso pb 1st sector!?

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#60 swerved

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:28

Could be a better time for Kimi.

#61 OO7

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:29

Wow!!! A crocodile of cars down the straight.

#62 SR388

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:30

Man, all of the cars sound like ass.

#63 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:33

Hamilton had done plenty of laps on his tyres, and had plenty of lock ups, yet still improved when others couldn't. Early going but he looks on it.

#64 bourbon

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:35

Webber was getting a bit fiesty...

#65 goldenboy

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:37

Webber was getting a bit fiesty...

Indeed, I could understand him wanting to get by vettel but the overtaking the HRT (?) after the flag like that was a bit unnecessary

#66 ElDictatore

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:38

McLaren & Red Bull seem up to pace, Ferrari also pretty fast but seems a bit difficult to drive. Hamilton and McLaren showing good tyre management. Gonna be close! :clap:

#67 aditya-now

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:53

FP1 at Yeongam brought a lot of smoking, flat spoted tyres, dusty track, cars going of the track proper to the spacious run down areas and already the usual suspects at the front.

1. Lewis going to P1 at the very end
2. Fernando being in front for most of the time
3. The Red Bull drivers there and ready to strike, but still "observing"....

Who will win?

My money is on a three tier struggle between Alonso, Hamilton and Vettel - and it would be great to have those three qualify at the very front - ideally with battling it out throughout the race.


#68 aditya-now

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:55

What I can't understand is the pit exit - I mean, is this a Tilke track or not? How many circuits has he built? How did he come up with such an idiotic pitlane exit?

#69 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:57

for the championship it'd be lovely for a Hamilton win + alonso and vettel off podium

#70 aditya-now

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:58

No laps from Raikkonen yet. Does he have a problem? 45 mins left in P1.


He obviously did not walk the track yesterday as well - what's behind this? Is he exerting any contract negotiation pressure or was he just eating ice cream?


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:59

Interesting speed trap data:
http://www.formula1....speed_trap.html

Where is it measured? I figure it's when the cars are at top speed on the straight?
Surprised to see Mclaren at the bottom

Edited by SamH123, 12 October 2012 - 03:02.


#72 swerved

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:10

Interesting speed trap data:
http://www.formula1....speed_trap.html

Where is it measured? I figure it's when the cars are at top speed on the straight?
Surprised to see Mclaren at the bottom


After T2, close to T3 :up:


http://www.formula1....tail/korea_879/

#73 marcoferrari

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:14

He obviously did not walk the track yesterday as well - what's behind this? Is he exerting any contract negotiation pressure or was he just eating ice cream?


And he still didn t use his "favourite" tyre compound yet... :)

#74 swerved

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:21

And he still didn t use his "favourite" tyre compound yet... :)



Didn't overuse any of them either :)

Edited by swerved, 12 October 2012 - 03:21.


#75 Kelateboy

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:22

Interesting speed trap data:
http://www.formula1....speed_trap.html

Where is it measured? I figure it's when the cars are at top speed on the straight?
Surprised to see Mclaren at the bottom

Short gearing, perhaps?

#76 robefc

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:31

Just woke up, going back to sleep...fastest 2 times after 22/23 laps?! :eek:

#77 OO7

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:37

Just woke up, going back to sleep...fastest 2 times after 22/23 laps?! :eek:

Forgot to set you alarm rob?

#78 SamH123

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:38

Just woke up, going back to sleep...fastest 2 times after 22/23 laps?! :eek:


He'd pitted fairly recently though so fuel may have been taken out and some of his laps at the start were very slow

#79 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 04:46

He'd pitted fairly recently though so fuel may have been taken out and some of his laps at the start were very slow


but the tyres would have been 22 laps old.

Edited by TomNokoe, 12 October 2012 - 04:57.


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#80 OO7

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:00

Here we go again ladies and gentlemen.

#81 PARAZAR

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:17

Watched FP1 due to my insomnia, now watching FP2 F1 and Moto GP at the same time. Moto GP on silent:P

#82 johnmhinds

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:25

Aren't they letting anybody in to watch the practice sessions? Even the main grandstand is empty.

And why does it look like half of the marshal posts are empty as well?

#83 SDLRob

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:31

Aren't they letting anybody in to watch the practice sessions? Even the main grandstand is empty.

And why does it look like half of the marshal posts are empty as well?


because F1 isn't in Korea for the thousands of fans.... it's there for Bernie to get another motherload of cash. It's clear now that Korea isn't interested in F1, they're just anther puppet for Bernie to shake and get more coins out of

Edited by SDLRob, 12 October 2012 - 05:31.


#84 SamH123

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:38

Aren't they letting anybody in to watch the practice sessions? Even the main grandstand is empty.

And why does it look like half of the marshal posts are empty as well?


There look to be a decent amount of people there to me...

#85 OO7

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:43

And why does it look like half of the marshal posts are empty as well?

Because they are, judging by how long it has taken the marshals to reach Perez's car.

#86 Kelateboy

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:44

Nothing interesting.
Vettel is the fastest man on softs.

Here we go - supersofts.

#87 sock22

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:47

So, Red Bull have found all the time in the first two sectors while maintaining their 0.3/4 advantage in S3. Looks like whatever trick they have on their car is still working, which is ominous for the championship.

#88 apoka

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:01

Some observations:

Overall, times look quite poor compared to qualy last year.
The best FP2 times is only 3 tenths quicker than the best FP1 time so far.
Performance improvement on super softs is rather limited. It's probably still the qualy tyre, but softs could be the prefered race tyre.



#89 Kelateboy

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:05

Options don't seem to be that much quicker than primes in FP2.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:07

So, Red Bull have found all the time in the first two sectors while maintaining their 0.3/4 advantage in S3. Looks like whatever trick they have on their car is still working, which is ominous for the championship.


Vettel ruined his tyres yet still went fastest.

#91 seahawk

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:14

McLaren sandbagging

#92 OO7

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:20

McLaren sandbagging

Nope.

#93 SamH123

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:20

Hamilton 5 tenths slower than his FP1 time on softs
hmmm. I'm still hoping the Mclaren is the RBs equal this weekend

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:22

Ferrari looking good.

RBR sandbagging?

#95 BernieEc

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:24

They said on skysports macca had a new floor. Maybe they are still tweaking stuff....who knows......having said that red bull do look ominous......

Newey has definitely found something

Edited by BernieEc, 12 October 2012 - 06:29.


#96 apoka

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:32

Ferrari looking good.

RBR sandbagging?

Not sure whether RBR is sandbagging, but Ferrari seems to have very good race pace.


#97 Kelateboy

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:35

Not sure whether RBR is sandbagging, but Ferrari seems to have very good race pace.

McLaren too with excellent race pace consistently in the 1min 45-46s range on options.

#98 Alarcon

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:37

Vettel made two mistakes on his two first fastest laps (the best laps) but despite he scored best time.

McLaren did almost the same time as RB on FP1 then I´ve the feeling they are again the fastest.

Edited by Alarcon, 12 October 2012 - 06:38.


#99 ElDictatore

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:39

It's gonna be close. Race pace wise it looks similar for all three at the front. One-Lap pace the same, just maybe with RBR having the slight edge.

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#100 superdelphinus

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:55

Nope.


I think one feature of this season is that sand bagging simply hasn't happened in practice sessions this season.