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#51 King Six

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 19:48

And 8 of them are UK based!

Yup, USF1 would have been based in America though. I think the sport could do with having more teams based outside of the UK/Europe. But personally I don't mind having most of the teams based here... ;)

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#52 olliek88

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 20:46

Yup, USF1 would have been based in America though. I think the sport could do with having more teams based outside of the UK/Europe. But personally I don't mind having most of the teams based here...;)


It would be nice to see more teams based elsewhere but i don't think it will happen. For fear of sounding like a completely over patriotic moron (which isn't my intention) its because a large portion of the best engineers are based in the UK, specifically in the "motorsport belt". Hell, even Caterham saw the error of their ways being as far a field as Norfolk!!

#53 Wiggy

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 21:32

Was it not force India that had problems paying its bills previously as well?

In fact did they not end up in court last year because they failed to pay their wind tunnel costs?

#54 Crestie

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 22:51

How does Lotus = France?

British National Anthem if they win.
Owners from Luxembourg.
Based in England.

Yes, the team principal is French but then again Ross Brawn is English and Mercedes aren't. Yes, they have a French engine but so do Williams and they're English. Yes, they have a French driver but so do Marussia and... Well, you get the idea.

#55 schumimercamg

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 23:05

How does Lotus = France?

British National Anthem if they win.
Owners from Luxembourg.
Based in England.

Yes, the team principal is French but then again Ross Brawn is English and Mercedes aren't. Yes, they have a French engine but so do Williams and they're English. Yes, they have a French driver but so do Marussia and... Well, you get the idea.


Renault connection...duh

#56 Myrvold

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 23:13

Renault connection...duh


Which is... none now. Isn't Red Bull more like the works team for Renault now?

#57 Buttoneer

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 23:21

Aaaaand back on topic.

This is another of those tricky topics where we would like you to please exercise caution when posting and remember that defamatory posts are not acceptable. The discussion should also centre on how this affects motorsport only.

#58 loki

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 23:28

My understanding is that Mallya owns 42.5% of the team, same percentage is owned by Sahara and 15% is with the Mol family so technically even though Mallya is the most visible of the stakeholders he's not the owner


Yep. I don't know how it works in India but over here they could take his share, which without the Mols and Sahara is worthless. There may be a first right of refusal to his partners should he wish to sell his stake in the team. He's been on his way out for a while. Perhaps the only thing that could happen to the team is a different ownership structure and a yet again renaming. Perhaps to simply "Sahara F1".


#59 loki

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 23:32

Was it not force India that had problems paying its bills previously as well?

In fact did they not end up in court last year because they failed to pay their wind tunnel costs?


Prior to the issues with paying the tunnel he had issues with paying for the motorhome. IIRC at one point they were threatening to sieze it or did sieze it.

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#60 akshay380

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 23:52

In my experience, Indian companies are terrible debtors. I'm glad they maintain a policy of equal opportunity not to be paid and rip off domestic suppliers too. Kind of comforting.

Meh! Isnt that generalizing? Mind sharing names of some of these Indian companies based on which you made that blanket statement?

#61 packapoo

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 00:57

That team in all it's guises has always seemed to attract a slightly shady side to it.


Starting way back when? Surely not fast Eddie?

#62 packapoo

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 00:59

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#63 ClubmanGT

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 21:26

Force India is no more Indian than McLaren is of New Zealand.

#64 hsvone

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 23:04

Force India is no more Indian than McLaren is of New Zealand.


Wash your mouth out sir! :eek:

#65 ClubmanGT

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 03:35

Wash your mouth out sir! :eek:


Where is it based, have they had any Indian drivers and whose anthem will play if they win a race?

#66 mprtc

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 09:58

Where is it based, have they had any Indian drivers and whose anthem will play if they win a race?



Ferrari does not have any italian driver , so its not italian by ur ogic

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#67 King Six

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:05

Where is it based, have they had any Indian drivers and whose anthem will play if they win a race?

It's based outside Silverstone. No, but they are running a programme over there. And the Indian national anthem will be played. Just like Red Bull and Austria, despite being based in Milton Keynes. It's how F1 is and has been for a long time...

#68 Ferdia

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:07

Farce India


#69 scheivlak

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:09

Where is it based, have they had any Indian drivers and whose anthem will play if they win a race?

Well, when Red Bull wins we hear the Austrian anthem even though Milton Keynes is not somewhere near Vienna.

It makes some sense then to expect that they will be playing the Indian anthem.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:10

Meh! Isnt that generalizing? Mind sharing names of some of these Indian companies based on which you made that blanket statement?


Not on a public forum. But I stand by my statement. Exporting to India is a nightmare. Even bidding on contracts is awful; our designs often find their way to our competitors. Bribery and corruption is rife.

#71 Ferdia

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:19

Exporting to India is a nightmare. Even bidding on contracts is awful; our designs often find their way to our competitors. Bribery and corruption is rife.


This has been my experience too. Now I won't take a contract with an Indian customer unless I am paid in advance and no valuable intellectual property is involved.


#72 stanga

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:04

This has been my experience too. Now I won't take a contract with an Indian customer unless I am paid in advance and no valuable intellectual property is involved.


And we were working with the Indian government in many instances...

#73 Wretched

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:28

And we were working with the Indian government in many instances...

Just ask the many Australian companies that also helped with the Commonwealth games in India.
http://news.theage.c...0120-19y6d.html

#74 hsvone

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 23:28

Where is it based, have they had any Indian drivers and whose anthem will play if they win a race?


I meant your comment about McLaren not having anything to do with EnZed. If it wasn't for Bruce there wouldn't be a McLaren. :cat:

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:18

Mallya arrest warrant withdrawn

A warrant for Vijay Mallya's arrest has been withdrawn after a case against his airline for outstanding unpaid airport fees in Hyderabad was settled with a payment.



#76 ForeverF1

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:04

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