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[Jim77]

Just found this clip from Huntley Film Archives of 1950's race.

 

https://www.bing.com...213A3&FORM=VIRE

Edited by Jim77, 28 March 2019 - 02:19.

[Jim77]

Just thought I would collate result sheets I have before they disappear forever.

Only have four Bemsee CP events from 1968-71.

2nd September 1968      http://media.wix.com...d05299e5a17.pdf

2nd September 1969     http://media.wix.com...8b9ba1e89b3.pdf

31st August 1970           http://media.wix.com...6cc49d571a2.pdf

4th September 1971      http://media.wix.com...a5286adf386.pdf

 

Who ran the CP Easter events also how many M/C events a year were there?

 

If anyone is interested in club results 66-71 I've uploaded other sheets to David Riley website who has kindly added a results section  http://daveriley.wee...sults-page.html . Majority of events were Bemsee with the other clubs they cover Brands 67-71, Snetterton 67-70, Cadwell 66-67 and Thruxton 68 & 70.

Edited by Jim77, 08 February 2016 - 14:18.

[Paul Collins]

Great stuff Jim, keep it coming, i'm fascinated by the old Palace stuff and have just spent an enjoyable 20 minutes reading through those results

[tonyed]

31st August 1970 my first national meeting on my Ariel Arrow - lapped unfortunately.

 

4th September 1971 2nd meeting on my Aermacchi Mettise - which misfired all meeting - change everything, finally at home found the spark plug cap to plug lead screw corroded. Snipped 1/4 of an inch off and hey presto.

[Russell Burrows]

At the Sep '71 meeting I recall Butcher whistling past to lap us on the drop down on to the back straight, maybe 20 mph quicker?   I have equally legit excuses for wobbling about at the rear but theyre too embarrasing.

[Jim77]

Gentlemen, just to let you know I've uploaded the following programmes: - 

 

CrystalPalace1Sep1969

CrystalPalace31Aug1970

CrystalPalace4Sep1971

 

to Dave Riley website  http://daveriley.wee...tal-palace.html

[Paul Collins]

Great read thanks Jim.

I wonder did Martyn Ashwood ever win one at the Palace? the editorial in one of the programmes mentions that he had held the lap record several times but so far a win had eluded him due to breakdowns etc.

[Jim77]

Hadn't realized Martyn Ashwood was a qucik rider, his name never seem to pop up when I thought about all the quick ones. Expect there are  a lot on here who know his track history.

[Russell Burrows]

Im surprised to learn that Martyn held any records at the Palace or anywhere else.  He was clearly no mug but from memory he wasn't often up front, certainly in the mid sixties at least.  Having said that he seemed later to have gone ok on a Mettise framed Triumph.  I suspect any quick Palace laps were achieved on this bike, late sixties/very early 70's maybe?  By the early seventies though all sorts of hotshots were rocking up at the Palace with factory triples etc, ergo any record of Martyn's would have been pretty short lived. 

Edited by Russell Burrows, 19 August 2017 - 18:25.

[knickerbrook]

I see that Tony Godfrey was entered in 1972 on a 998 "Blitz".

I'm guessing a Vincent of some sort?

[Jim77]

Russell are you going to put back your missing pics in this section feeling a bit lonely.

[tonyed]

I see that Tony Godfrey was entered in 1972 on a 998 "Blitz".

I'm guessing a Vincent of some sort?

Yes Tonys' Blitz was indeed Vincent powered.

 

I never seemed to have much luck at the Palace (and I needed plenty of it)

 

I raced a total of three machines there. An Arrow racer, and Aermacch Metisse, and an ex-works 672 BSA. On the day all ran like crap. I put it down to the poor air quality, London smog which was still prevalent in the far off years I rode there.    

[Russell Burrows]

Russell are you going to put back your missing pics in this section feeling a bit lonely.

Would if I could.  I am the least IT savy person on the planet. 

[opplock]

Would if I could.  I am the least IT savy person on the planet. 

Try this thread on TNF. Works for Chrome. 

 

http://forums.autosp...tobucket-issue/

[Russell Burrows]

Try this thread on TNF. Works for Chrome. 

 

http://forums.autosp...tobucket-issue/

Thanks for trying to help - no success as yet. 

[billlawrence]

poor air quality that's the best excuse ever  I remember Marttyn Ashwood on a G 50 a very fast rider remember a photo of him going over the handle  bars great shot     Bill Lawrence

[tonyed]

poor air quality that's the best excuse ever  I remember Marttyn Ashwood on a G 50 a very fast rider remember a photo of him going over the handle  bars great shot     Bill Lawrence

In my book of excuses it is the least used.

 

Martyn Ashwood was a great short circuit rider of the time not only at the Palace but Brands and Lydden were places he excelled..

[knickerbrook]

poor air quality that's the best excuse ever  I remember Marttyn Ashwood on a G 50 a very fast rider remember a photo of him going over the handle  bars great shot     Bill Lawrence

 

I think I remember that shot Bill. Wasn't it at Thruxton? And if its the shot I'm thinking of, didn't the caption say "here's someone who wished he'd stayed at home and dug the garden"!  

[billlawrence]

Yes that's the one the look on his face don't know how  he got to be in that position .I remember Gary Lingham racing Ashwoods G 50   

[Jim77]

Easy WWW probably appropriate........... unfortunately scan of scan image.

 

[Russell Burrows]

Smart on Joe Francis' Seeley Mk 2, can't make out the second dude, Sanby ? Mahoney and Ashwood, South Tower Bend, 69?  

Edited by Russell Burrows, 23 August 2017 - 21:03.

[Jim77]

Smart on Joe Francis' Seeley Mk 2, can't make out the second dude, Sanby ? Mahoney and Ashwood, South Tower Bend, 69?  

Did Pat Mahoney replace Mick Andrew who was down as riding the Gus Kuhn Norton?

[Russell Burrows]

Did Pat Mahoney replace Mick Andrew who was down as riding the Gus Kuhn Norton?Not sure 

Not sure on the chronology of when Mahoney joined the Kuhn team - after Mick Andrews' death sounds right though.   Convention dictates, Jim,

that punters have their worked marked and any necessary corrections highlighted. 

Edited by Russell Burrows, 24 August 2017 - 21:30.

[Jim77]

 

Russell Burrows, on 24 Aug 2017 - 22:29, said:

Not sure on the chronology of when Mahoney joined the Kuhn team - after Mick Andrews' death sounds right though.   Convention dictates, Jim,

that punters have their worked marked and any necessary corrections highlighted.

 

 

Well, on the first part correct, yes it's Charlie. Behind Ashwood is Degens then Ditchburn CP Sep 69.

2nd part (bit more effort required) apparently in 1970 (69) Pat Mahoney and Charlie Sanby joined Mick Andrew and the Gus Kuhn team.

It appears in the early production event Mick had crashed and injured his back/legs so was unable to ride in this event; Pat was given the ride on No.6; Charlie was already listed on Kuhn Commando.

 

Mick Andrew was killed in a road accident April 1970 aged 24.

Edited by Jim77, 26 August 2017 - 01:07.

[billlawrence]

I remember seeing  Charlie Sanby crashing at north tower bend the back  wheel was smashed by the railway sleepers .Always thought Charlie should have got the J.P Norton shame he didn't  Bill Lawrence

[Jim77]

I remember seeing  Charlie Sanby crashing at north tower bend the back  wheel was smashed by the railway sleepers .Always thought Charlie should have got the J.P Norton shame he didn't  Bill Lawrence

Do you remember what year?

[billlawrence]

No Jim it would have been around the time the photo was taken around 69-70 I remember the bike Charlie was on was blue and gold looked great   Bill Lawrence

[Jim77]

No Jim it would have been around the time the photo was taken around 69-70 I remember the bike Charlie was on was blue and gold looked great   Bill Lawrence

It looks like it was Sep 69.

[knickerbrook]

This is a good read - the Gus Kuhn racing history (also some good links to explore below the rider index ).

 

http://www.guskuhn.n...g/GKMRacing.htm