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#1 f1steveuk

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 17:57

I have been given a lovely picture of Roger Williamson in the STP March (at Silverstone I believe, as he has a clear visor on his helmet). There appears to be three words on the lower front of the jaw piece. I'm guessing it's his blood group, unless someone knows better (the last word looks like "positive"). I do not have permission to publish the picture as yet.

Also I wondered how many drivers have regular slogans or inscriptions on their helmets. I know Blundell did, but did any others? (I always had my parents initials somewhere on mine for example).



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#2 Cirrus

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 18:11

"For Flux Sake" springs to mind...

#3 ensign14

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 18:49

Deffo blood group on Williamson's.

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#4 wolf sun

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 20:01

Lauda used to have 'King Rat' on his helmet, as a nod to his nickname 'The Rat'...I don't know in which year ('s), though, must've been some time after he'd won his second title, if I remember correctly.

#5 cpbell

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 21:13

Didn't Alex Riberio have "Jesus Saves" on his?

#6 Simon Arron

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:35

"For Flux Sake" springs to mind...

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#7 f1steveuk

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 10:24

I am sure I read somewhere Fangio always carried his mother's name somewhere on his helmet, though it may have been on a piece of paper tucked into the lining. Blundell's I recall was the name of a backer, without whom he'd have never made it in the sport, and I also recall Damien Magee had a particular name or slogan. Trouble is, as they are usually private, they're not really going to be known about!

#8 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 12:04

I seem to recall a photo from the pages of Road & Track magazine of Jochen Rindt at the Dutch GP of 1969 with, "This Space for Rent" writ in large letters on the side of his helmut.

#9 f1steveuk

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 12:50

I seem to recall a photo from the pages of Road & Track magazine of Jochen Rindt at the Dutch GP of 1969 with, "This Space for Rent" writ in large letters on the side of his helmut.

Not much of a slogan!

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 14:06

Not so much a slogan but both Peter Gethin and Derek Daly had a pair of Piscean fish on the side of their helmuts :smoking:

Edit Gethin link corrected :blush:

Edited by arttidesco, 21 October 2012 - 15:32.


#11 kayemod

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 15:21

Not so much a slogan but both Peter Gethin and Derek Daly had a pair of Piscean fish on the side of their helmuts :smoking:


He told me they were sharks, one of which represented Sid Taylor, can't remember who he said the other one was.


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Posted 21 October 2012 - 15:33

He told me they were sharks, one of which represented Sid Taylor, can't remember who he said the other one was.


Now you mention it the fish on Peters helmet do look rather shark like :up:

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 18:37

I seem to recall a photo from the pages of Road & Track magazine of Jochen Rindt at the Dutch GP of 1969 with, "This Space for Rent" writ in large letters on the side of his helmut.


"This space for Rindt" has a better ring to it :) The actual wording was "This $pace to let" and done at Bernie's behest, hence the dollar sign I guess. Here's a link to a great
photo of the start of that GP. I believe Jochen named his helmut Marko :p


http://picasaweb.goo...G2MhBFZovC1PBIA

Edited by Slurp1955, 21 October 2012 - 20:24.


#14 JacnGille

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 23:24

Lauda used to have 'King Rat' on his helmet, as a nod to his nickname 'The Rat'...I don't know in which year ('s), though, must've been some time after he'd won his second title, if I remember correctly.

I seem to remember him having "The Rat" on his visor strip too.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:35

Didn't Alex Riberio have "Jesus Saves" on his?


Wasn't their a Jewish driver who had "and Moses Invests" on his 'helmet'.

:rolleyes:

#16 Vicuna

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:00

Mark Blundell had something like - 'the will to win'

#17 mfd

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:01

I seem to remember him having "The Rat" on his visor strip too.

Twinnie will know I'm sure, but IIRC it actually said Super Rat. It wasn't there for long, primarily on the Marlboro strip it just said Niki Lauda

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:08

Blundell's I recall was the name of a backer, without whom he'd have never made it in the sport

Steve, he told me (when we created the design) it was his late Grandfather's saying..."you've got to have the will to win"

Edited by mfd, 22 October 2012 - 09:09.


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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:17

Here's one - on the back of Pirro helmets "Fosti con me nel pericola e nella vittoria" according to memory something he told me was associated with Nuvolari

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#20 kayemod

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:33

Here's one - on the back of Pirro helmets "Fosti con me nel pericola e nella vittoria" according to memory something he told me was associated with Nuvolari


The best I can do with that is "You were with me in the victory and dangers have".

Perhaps more elegantly, "You were with me in danger and in victory" As a quote it's not really up there with "Once more unto the breach dear friends... or "I come to bury Caesar not to praise him..." is it?

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:43

Didn't Alex Riberio have "Jesus Saves" on his?

I recall that written in script across the broad front of his car, to which some wag had added "not on my wages, he doesn't!"
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:53

I don't think Ribeiro had a slogan on his helmet, but he did have an arrow on the side pointing to Heaven.

Shame that, if his talent were God-given, it was not a generous God.

#23 mfd

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:54

As a quote it's not really up there with ""I come to bury Caesar not to praise him..." is it?

Yes Rob, but he (EP) is a Roman :D

#24 ensign14

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:24

The Indy driver Mark Smith had the Pour le Merite on the crown of his helmet with the appropriate slogan - never sussed whether that was a sponsorship thing as the medal was known as the Blue Max, or whether he just liked it, or whether he came from a line of military Schmidts or something.

#25 f1steveuk

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 18:14

Cheers Mike, funny how it all comes flooding back when someone tells you the answer!!!

I mentioned this thread over the weekend, and was told Alberto Ascari had a signed card from his father tucked into the lining of his famous blue helmet, and that somewhere on Paletti's helmet he had his mother's name.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 21:27

I don't think Ribeiro had a slogan on his helmet, but he did have an arrow on the side pointing to Heaven.


And within that arrow was written:

Jesus Jesus Saves Jesus Saves

It really was hard to miss his message!!

Witnessed personally at Anderstorp 1977.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 02:26

I am sure I read somewhere Fangio always carried his mother's name somewhere on his helmet, though it may have been on a piece of paper tucked into the lining. Blundell's I recall was the name of a backer, without whom he'd have never made it in the sport, and I also recall Damien Magee had a particular name or slogan. Trouble is, as they are usually private, they're not really going to be known about!

I think your getting blundell mixed up with martin donnelly who had frank nolans name on his helmet i belive

#28 d j fox

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 11:03

I remember a photo in French magazine "Sport Auto" in the late 70s of the rear of Tim Schenken's helmet bearing the slogan "Don't rubbish Australia"
Not sure if they were joking but the caption underneath read " Ne pas jettez vos papiers dans Australie" !!!!

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 10:38

The latest Motor Sport dropped through my letterbox this morning, haven't had a chance to do more than glance at it, but I was pleased to see that the 'Lunch with...' piece featured Sir John Whitmore, a fascinating bloke, and a fine driver in his day. John had lettering on the front of his helmet for some time, a complicated-looking chemical formula. A friend asked him what it was, but the reply made us think that he might have been taking the piss...

#30 B Squared

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 12:32

Lauda used to have 'King Rat' on his helmet, as a nod to his nickname 'The Rat'...I don't know in which year ('s), though, must've been some time after he'd won his second title, if I remember correctly.



I seem to remember him having "The Rat" on his visor strip too.


Along with Super Rat

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 12:39

a complicated-looking chemical formula. A friend asked him what it was, but the reply made us think that he might have been taking the piss...

Is that the one he had from Bud Ekins & Steve McQueen?

#32 kayemod

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 13:53

Is that the one he had from Bud Ekins & Steve McQueen?


No idea, but it was 1963 if that's any help.

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The original is from an old copy of Motor Racing, and the formula looks like H2PO3+(NH4)2C2O4


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Posted 25 October 2012 - 14:01

No idea, but it was 1963 if that's any help.
The original is from an old copy of Motor Racing, and the formula looks like H2PO3+(NH4)2C2O4


That's close enough to be the same formula I was thinking of. Ekins & McQueen banded together as off road bike riders & they called themselves the Chicken Shit Racing Team. They made Whitmore an honorary member.


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Posted 25 October 2012 - 14:06

That's close enough to be the same formula I was thinking of. Ekins & McQueen banded together as off road bike riders & they called themselves the Chicken Shit Racing Team. They made Whitmore an honorary member.


John's explanation to friend made us think that it had some liquid explanation, but perhaps it was what my plumber rather delicately refers to as "solids".


#35 Alan Cox

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 14:13

I think it's phosphoric acid plus ammonium oxalate - Does that combine to form chicken s..t?

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 14:19

John's explanation to friend made us think that it had some liquid explanation, but perhaps it was what my plumber rather delicately refers to as "solids".

Well I think the first is Phosphoric Acid and the second probably is Ammonium Oxalate.
Does that help or is it a load of
(X+/-1)^2 + Y^2 + Z^2 = 1

ETA posted without seeing Alan's post first!

Edited by Allan Lupton, 25 October 2012 - 14:20.


#37 mfd

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 18:32

Hence the team name.

#38 h4887

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 19:42

Well I think the first is Phosphoric Acid and the second probably is Ammonium Oxalate.
Does that help or is it a load of
(X+/-1)^2 + Y^2 + Z^2 = 1

ETA posted without seeing Alan's post first!


Phosphorous acid actually. Phosphoric is H3 PO4, excuse lack of subscripts :wave:


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Posted 25 October 2012 - 23:50

Not so much a slogan or inscription...R.I.P Baz

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:54

That's close enough to be the same formula I was thinking of. Ekins & McQueen banded together as off road bike riders & they called themselves the Chicken Shit Racing Team. They made Whitmore an honorary member.

According to the latest Motor Sport, someone had the chicken "product" analysed by a laboratory and the formulae are those of the main active chemical components.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 17:36

Indy car driver Johnny Parsons Jr had a small cross on the back of his helmet as did Indy car driver Phil Krueger. What about Reutemann? Was he the first to actually advertise an event - in his case the '78 World Cup in Argentina - with his 'Argentina 1978' on his helmet?