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#1251 jjurado

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 17:33

Vettel has extended his contract until the end of 2015 so if he is going to Ferrari it must be for the 2016 season.

 

 

Turrini and Vettel to Ferrari in 2015...

 

http://blog.quotidia...vela-che-vettel



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#1252 TT6

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 17:36

Turrini and Vettel to Ferrari in 2015...
 
http://blog.quotidia...vela-che-vettel


I think you just stepped into off topic here. What we definately need is a 2015 Silly Season thread.

#1253 kimister

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 17:43

Vettel has extended his contract until the end of 2015 so if he is going to Ferrari it must be for the 2016 season.

 

 

Contracts can easily be broken by mutual agreement   ;) and if there is an exit clause on it, it is easier...



#1254 jjurado

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 18:00

Key word "Mutual Agreement", what makes you think that Red Bull would want Vettel to leave? and I don"t see Vettel braking his contract either, not after all he has achieved with Red Bull so if Vettel is going red I will pretty much think it will be 2016.

 

 

Contracts can easily be broken by mutual agreement   ;) and if there is an exit clause on it, it is easier...



#1255 dau

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 19:09

Turrini and Vettel to Ferrari in 2015...

 

http://blog.quotidia...vela-che-vettel

Does Turrini even have a superlicense?



#1256 Owen

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:56

Still no confirmation on Perez for next year. Big piece in Autosport (print) about it. I have no idea where this is going. :confused:



#1257 Yoshi

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:37

Still no confirmation on Perez for next year. Big piece in Autosport (print) about it. I have no idea where this is going. :confused:

 

Sport Bild Germany was reporting this week, that Hulkenberg has a chance for the Perez seat.

Mclaren didn't receive so far the money from Telmex.



#1258 Giz

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:00

Question is are McLaren using that as an excuse to get rid or do they really need the money, perhaps they are using it as a negotiating tactic to get better terms on their side for next year



#1259 apoka

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:03

Turrini and Vettel to Ferrari in 2015...

 

http://blog.quotidia...vela-che-vettel

 

Credibility? 

 

We need a 2015 Silly Season or Vettel to Ferrari 2015 thread (the old one is closed).

 

I think this has a chance to be one of the longest running rumors. AFAIK, it seriously started end of 2010 (e.g. in http://www.tagesspie...et/2621074.html Mateschitz says that his dream is to drive for Ferrari at some point and that RB wouldn't deny him that possibility).


Edited by apoka, 27 September 2013 - 09:03.


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#1260 Racer3

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:08

Mateschitz says that his dream is to drive for Ferrari at some point

 

As fellow poster dau would say: Does Mateschitz even have a super license?

SCNR



#1261 eronrules

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:09

 Barrichello emerges as candidate for 2014 Sauber seat  :drunk:

 

 

His return to F1 would also be welcomed by Bernie Ecclestone ....

 

... according to Auto Motor und Sport 'two-digit million sum' in personal sponsorship.

 

Barrichello, is quoted as saying:

 

"I would only have to train my neck.

"Then I could race tomorrow,"

i give up ...  :o 


Edited by eronrules, 27 September 2013 - 09:09.


#1262 sopa

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:17

 

Yeah, Barrichello is 41 like Schumacher was when he made his comeback.

 

So Barrichello doesn't only come back, but makes a 3-year-deal with Sauber like Schumacher did with Mercedes.:D



#1263 HistoryFan

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:17

why not? If Sauber needs an experienced driver?



#1264 Owen

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:48

Sport Bild Germany was reporting this week, that Hulkenberg has a chance for the Perez seat.

Mclaren didn't receive so far the money from Telmex.

James Allen has it more to do with his performances (to date) in the car. But let's see.

http://www.jamesalle...hats-the-hurry/



#1265 kosmos

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:02

 

Turrini and Vettel to Ferrari in 2015...

 

http://blog.quotidia...vela-che-vettel

 

Related?

 

Scuderia Ferrari @InsideFerrari 13m

Today some believe that pigs might actually fly...especially in Germany... LOL


Edited by kosmos, 27 September 2013 - 10:09.


#1266 artista

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:18

Related?

Scuderia Ferrari ‏@InsideFerrari 13m
Today some believe that pigs might actually fly...especially in Germany... LOL

It might also be something totally unrelated: Grand Prix Diary decided to do a joke about the Alonso/Webber/taxi drive and did a fake invoice using photoshop where Ferrari asked Red Bull for several thousand euros for the taxi drive, including 10% tip. It was just a joke but Bild took it today :lol:
Grand Prix Diary sent a link of the Bild article to InsideFerrari earlier today, so it could also explain the pigs flying in Germany.

Edited by artista, 27 September 2013 - 10:19.


#1267 JHSingo

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:38

why not? If Sauber needs an experienced driver?

 

Surely it'd be more productive to take a punt on a young driver, instead of using someone who has been doing it for years.

 

No disrespect intended to Rubens at all, he's a great bloke, but this is the problem with F1 right now - recycling drivers rather than helping young talent come in. It is going to be a problem in a few years when Alonso, Raikkonen, etc, retire. Tell me, who is lined up to be the next Alonsos and Raikkonens? Nobody. 

 

That's the scary thing right now.



#1268 Anja

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:18

Is Rubens really that desperate for an F1 ride?



#1269 ch103

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:41

Is Rubens really that desperate for an F1 ride?

 

I can't say I blame him.  I would take a seat in the Caterham or Marussia if I had the chance.  F1 is like nothing else in our world.  Glitz, glamour and seeing all of the major cities in the world.  Can't blame Rubens at all.  My own opinion is that he has had his turn in F1 and some other driver should get a seat before he gets a second stint.



#1270 MustangSally

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:54

Rubens: 'I would only have to train my neck'


He never managed to train his mouth, which was the problem.

Excellent development driver though. Cosworth praised his input. Perhaps some kind of PDLR role would suit.

I doubt he can raise much money, otherwise he would still be in Indycar with his friend Tony.

#1271 Les

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:27

Mansell to Williams?



#1272 GhostR

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:33

Surely it'd be more productive to take a punt on a young driver, instead of using someone who has been doing it for years.

 

No disrespect intended to Rubens at all, he's a great bloke, but this is the problem with F1 right now - recycling drivers rather than helping young talent come in. It is going to be a problem in a few years when Alonso, Raikkonen, etc, retire. Tell me, who is lined up to be the next Alonsos and Raikkonens? Nobody. 

 

That's the scary thing right now.

 

How old is Alonso now? 32? I can see him sticking around for another 5 years potentially, possibly longer. Hamilton is only 28, he'll be around for another 5-10 years. Kimi, I expect to retire once his Ferrari stint is done. Vettel's going to be around for a decade or more yet (unless he does a Stoner and shocks us all with an early retirement). 

 

Red Bull would argue they're already in the process of introducing the ones who'll be joining superstar ranks in a few years (Ricciardo, Vergne).

 

McLaren would argue they're well on the way to bringing in a couple of future stars as well - Magnussen and Vandoorne. Hamilton should be around for a while yet.

 

You only really need to uncover a couple of new superstar drivers every ... what, 10 years or so these days? Assuming Red Bull can keep their drivers under prolonged contract (as they have with Vettel), the Red Bull junior program only needs to generate 1 new superstar for every 10 drivers they bring into F1 (based on bringing them in young, generating early career success, and keeping them in the team for as long as possible).



#1273 dau

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:53

Surely it'd be more productive to take a punt on a young driver, instead of using someone who has been doing it for years.

 

[...]

 

They already have a young driver. What they need now is experience, someone to rely on, someone to develop the car. 



#1274 rosscamero

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:59

Yeah, Barrichello is 41 like Schumacher was when he made his comeback.

 

So Barrichello doesn't only come back, but makes a 3-year-deal with Sauber like Schumacher did with Mercedes. :D

 

It is not as silly as it sounds.   Given that they are going to put a 18 year old in the car next season their driver next year is going to have to be

 

a. expierenced.

b. come with lots of cash

c. capable of scoring points.

 

 

Not to many drivers tick all those boxes.  Massa does not want to step that far down the grid.  Heikki will not/cant pay.   


Edited by rosscamero, 27 September 2013 - 13:00.


#1275 David Lightman

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 13:48

Sport Bild Germany was reporting this week, that Hulkenberg has a chance for the Perez seat.

Mclaren didn't receive so far the money from Telmex.

I assume McLaren hasn't noticed Hulkenburg is German then, when they do they'll forget the idea  :p

 

(And yes I do know they tried to sign Schumacher, I've seen the footage of Ron schmoozing him).



#1276 Tron

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 20:22

Key word "Mutual Agreement", what makes you think that Red Bull would want Vettel to leave? and I don"t see Vettel braking his contract either, not after all he has achieved with Red Bull so if Vettel is going red I will pretty much think it will be 2016.

 

No team wants to keep an unhappy driver. I don't think anyone team has done so?



#1277 Tron

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 20:23

It is not as silly as it sounds.   Given that they are going to put a 18 year old in the car next season their driver next year is going to have to be

 

a. expierenced.

b. come with lots of cash

c. capable of scoring points.

 

 

Not to many drivers tick all those boxes.  Massa does not want to step that far down the grid.  Heikki will not/cant pay.   

 

Barrichello is old enough to be that 18 year old's father...



#1278 rasul

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 20:48

Turrini and Vettel to Ferrari in 2015...

 

http://blog.quotidia...vela-che-vettel

I don't understand the google translate. There's something about Vettel to Ferrari in 2 years? Where does he say that it'd be in a year?



#1279 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 11:10

I read on GPToday that Massa is out of the fight for the Lotus seat, because Lotus had found some Qatar investors. Means Hulkenberg is only facing competition from Nasr now.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 18:19

http://esportes.terr...cceb0aRCRD.html

 

Brazilian sites reporting that Rubens 41y.o. might be returning in the Brazil GP - still this year - for a farewell race, riding a Sauber.



#1281 Cyanide

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 18:34

Reports surfacing that Lotus secured a deal with Qatar investors. Nico Hulkenberg close to signing a contract. #F1 #formula1



#1282 Tron

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:51

Yesterday Boullier said he doesn't want pay drivers.

 

Is this a hint of closing in on Hulkenberg, the only non pay driver candidate aside Di Resta?


Edited by Tron, 29 September 2013 - 06:52.


#1283 eronrules

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:04

 

Reports surfacing that Lotus secured a deal with Qatar investors. Nico Hulkenberg close to signing a contract. #F1 #formula1

 

:up:

 

Yesterday Boullier said he doesn't want pay drivers.

 

Is this a hint of closing in on Hulkenberg, the only non pay driver candidate aside Di Resta?

i certainly hope so, they need the money and fast. 

 

also fingers crossed for the rumored Renault re-buyout ... if that happens, this team can be back to the former glory days of 04-06, and certainly Hulkenberg-Grosjean pairing will be one of the most electrifying on the grid, given there fiery history back in the F3 days.  :clap:



#1284 Tron

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:28

 

also fingers crossed for the rumored Renault re-buyout ... if that happens, this team can be back to the former glory days of 04-06, and certainly Hulkenberg-Grosjean pairing will be one of the most electrifying on the grid, given there fiery history back in the F3 days.  :clap:

 

:up:

 

I would so welcome that as it would lure back into the sport other prestige racing names...

We'll then have Ferrari, Merc, McLaren-Honda, Renault (?), and hopefully Williams will return to form... :clap:

 

I know Lotus is a prestige name, but by the historic books it's wins don't get added to the original Team Lotus's tally, so to me, they feel like a marketing copy...



#1285 Tufty

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 15:26

No team wants to keep an unhappy driver. I don't think anyone team has done so?

Jordan with Hill in 1999?



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:30

Jordan with Hill in 1999?

Sort of, when he scored in GB, he got some sort of motivation back, along with the fact that Jordan really really wanted him to stay. 



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:48

Jordan with Hill in 1999?

 

There was a backup plan as Verstappen was already pre-signed to replace Hill after Silverstone. So I guess you could say it wasn't Jordans intention.

 

Back to the drivers: I would love to see Grosjean and Hulkenberg together in one team, I think Massa could and will be a father for Sorokin.

Rubens should be wise enough to know that his time is over.


Edited by Overtax, 30 September 2013 - 10:49.


#1288 Cyanide

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 12:32

Toro Rosso will announce Antonio Felix da Costa this weekend in Korea. #F1 #Formula1



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 13:18

good..Costa is very talented guy and only one in RB's junior program who is ready for F1....



#1290 metz

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 13:23

From Autosport today;
"Felipe Massa would be a valuable asset for any team that employs him in 2014, according to Ferrari deputy chief designer Simone Resta."
If that was true, they would keep him

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 14:01

The humour is there in every Massa declaration. Even when Massa said he wanted a competitive and WDC worthy car. I could be mistaken, but from 2006 till 2013 the car was not all bad.  ;)


Edited by SenorSjon, 30 September 2013 - 14:01.


#1292 wj_gibson

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 14:04

Sort of, when he scored in GB, he got some sort of motivation back, along with the fact that Jordan really really wanted him to stay. 

 

Wasn't there immense pressure on Jordan from Benson and Hedges for Hill to see out the season? It was fairly obvious that he didn't want to.



#1293 wj_gibson

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 14:06

Meanwhile I find the idea of Rubens Barrichello driving full-time for Sauber in 2014 deeply depressing. Nothing against him personally but what does that say about contemporary F1 in regard of cashflow, and about the current quality of the junior formulae?



#1294 SenorSjon

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 14:43

It means drivers from the golden times in F1 (money wise) can pay their old wages to drive a few more years.



#1295 Jimisgod

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 16:02

Really that is monumentally disappointing if Rubens returns. Honestly of anyone in F1 he had his chance in two WDC winning teams and was never the champion.

Way to embrace mediocrity, and the risk of hiring someone who has been out of an F1 drive for 2 years - and new regulations - is just as great as a rookie. He hasn't even impressed much in Indycar. Certainly less than Sato.

#1296 Andrew Hope

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 16:31

Sato would be a smarter move than Rubens.



#1297 wj_gibson

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 16:47

Even Liuzzi would be a smarter move than Rubens. At least he'd feel he had something to prove.



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 17:22

Not really sure where to post this, and feel overkill to open a specific thread on it. According to the story here:

 

http://sporten.tv2.d...e-dag-i-mit-liv

 

Lotus have tested with Marco Sorensen on Paul Ricard today, naturally as a Danish media is being made into a test for possibly being in Lotus next season, which I have a hard time believing. We know that Sauber will test Sirotkin in a 2011 Ferrari, we know that Red Bull will test a 2011 Red Bull with Ricciardo.

 

How many F1 tests are NOT being reported by Autosport? And what to make of Lotus and Sorensen today?

 

:cool:



#1299 Anja

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 21:30

Sorensen is a part of Lotus' young driver programme IIRC. I seriously doubt that he's anywhere near a race seat but maybe he will be 'promoted' to some role in the actual F1 team.



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Posted 01 October 2013 - 00:40

 

Toro Rosso will announce Antonio Felix da Costa this weekend in Korea. #F1 #Formula1

 

 

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