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#51 charly0418

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 21:33

Meh, why not...

Red Bull
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen

McLaren
Jenson Button
Sergio Perez

Ferrari
Fernando Alonso
Nico Hulkenberg

Lotus
Pastor Maldonado
Romain Grosjean

Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Rosberg

Sauber
Esteban Gutierrez
Robin Frijns

Force India
Paul Di Resta
Jules Bianchi

Williams
Valteri Bottas
James Calado

Toro Rosso
Antonio Felix da Costa
Mitch Evans

Caterham
Giedo Van de Garde
Luiz Razia

Marussia
Timo Glock
Max Chilton






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#52 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 22:24

Oh, what the heck.

Red Bull Racing
#01. Sebastian Vettel
#02. Daniel Ricciardo

Scuderia Ferrari
#03. Fernando Alonso
#04. Nico Hülkenberg

McLaren Mercedes
#05. Jenson Button
#06. Sergio Pérez

Mercedes Benz GP
#07. Lewis Hamilton
#08. Nico Rosberg

Lotus F1 Team
#09. Kimi Raikkonen
#10. Romain Grosjean

Williams F1
#11. Pastor Maldonado
#12. Valtteri Bottas

Force India
#14. Paul di Resta
#15. Jules Bianchi

Sauber F1 Team
#16. Felipe Massa
#17. Esteban Gutiérrez

Scuderia Toro Rosso
#18. Jean-Eric Vergne
#19. Antonio Felix da Costa

Caterham F1
#20. Charles Pic
#21. Luiz Razia

Marussia Racing
#22. Timo Glock
#23. Max Chilton

#53 matthewf1

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 13:34

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/105099

Yes driver threads are not allowed, but here Di Resta is on about 2014. For someone who has done absolutely nothing in F1, he does have an enormous ego.

#54 matthewf1

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 14:17

May as well have a go as I'm here:

Red Bull - Renault
Vettel
Raikkonen

Ferrari - Ferrari
Alonso
Hulkenberg

Mclaren - Mercedes
Button
Perez

Lotus - Renault
Vergne
Ricciardo

Mercedes - Mercedes
Hamilton
Rosberg

Sauber - Mercedes
Guiterrez
Frinjs

Force India - Ferrari
Bianchi
?

Williams - Renault
Maldonado
Bottas

Toro Rosso - Renault
Da Costa
?

Caterham - Renault
Pic
?

Marussia - Ferrari
Chilton
Petrov





#55 artista

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 14:25

Just out of curiosity

why did you put Vergne and Ricciardo in Lotus? I can see the logic behind all your other guesses, but that one has puzzled me a bit.

#56 matthewf1

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 14:31

Just out of curiosity

why did you put Vergne and Ricciardo in Lotus? I can see the logic behind all your other guesses, but that one has puzzled me a bit.


I think Raikkonen will replace Webber at RB, and Grosjean will be crashy again so they will give up on him. Because of Raikkonen, there will be no seat free at RB for one of the Toro Rosso boys, so I think they will look elsewhere (or be pushed).

I thought Lotus had the whole French connection with Lotus and Boullier, so that's why I've gone for Vergne. I think Ricciardo has some serious speed, so that's why I've gone for him as well.

#57 artista

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 14:36

aaah! okay, thanks! :)

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 15:29

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/105099

Yes driver threads are not allowed, but here Di Resta is on about 2014. For someone who has done absolutely nothing in F1, he does have an enormous ego.

Not helped by the BBC ceaselessly kissing his arse. They only, eventually, began to stop drooling over him when it became increasingly clear he was getting crushed by Hulkenberg. Pray god he gets a decent team mate or they'll start all over again.

#59 lustigson

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:25

Update with all confirmed drivers and a couple of engine supply rumours. I haven't had the chance to create an overview of all driver-related rumours, yet.

Scuderia Ferrari
Ferrari F2014 – Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Stefano Domenicali ; Technical Director: Pat Fry
1. Fernando Alonso (contracted through '16)
2.

Red Bull Racing
Red Bull Racing RB10 – Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Christian Horner; Technical Director: Adrian Newey
3. Sebastian Vettel (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
4.

McLaren Mercedes
McLaren MP4-29 – Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Martin Whitmarsh ; Technical Director: Paddy Lowe, Neil Oatley
5. Jenson Button (contracted through '13 with option for '14)
6. Sergio Pérez (on a multi-year contract)

Lotus F1 Team
Lotus E22 – Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Eric Boullier ; Technical Director: James Allison
7.
8.

Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team
Mercedes F1 W05 – Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Ross Brawn ; Technical Director: Bob Bell
9. Nico Rosberg (on a multi-year deal beyond '13)
10. Lewis Hamilton (signed for '13-'15)

Sauber F1 Team
Sauber C33Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T / Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Monisha Kaltenborn ; Chief Designer: Matt Morris
11.
12.

Williams F1 Team
Williams FW36 – Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Frank Williams ; Technical Director: Mike Coughlan
14. Pastor Maldonado (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
15.

Sahara Force India F1 Team
Force India VJM07Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Vijay Mallya ; Technical Director: Andrew Green
16.
17.

Scuderia Toro Rosso
Toro Rosso STR9Renault RS28 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Franz Tost ; Technical Director: James Key
18.
19.

Caterham F1 Team
Caterham CT03 – Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Tony Fernandes ; Technical Director: Mark Smith
20. Charles Pic (confirmed; long-term deal)
21.

Marussia F1 Team
Marussia MR03Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: John Booth ; Technical Director: Pat Symonds
22.
23.

Edited by lustigson, 05 February 2013 - 12:43.


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#60 Sakae

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:57

It might be that Webber's seat, if available, will be most saught after and a holding block before rest of them decide on their next move. At least four candidates are lined up for it. Is there no life in F1 for Massa after Ferrari? I also do not detect that anyone counts Kamui returning to active racing, but lets hope he will still drive this year (maybe with FI).

#61 Meanbeakin

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:53

I'll make one prediction, Vettel and Webber at Red Bull in 2014.

Unless Mark has a catastrophically bad season, or drives badly enough that they miss out on the constructors championship, I don't see him going anywhere.

#62 lustigson

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:43

I added a potential Renault engine deal to STR.

#63 Jackmancer

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 20:02

Just a few predictions
- vd Garde will be gone next year since his money is up (and his talent never was)
- if Perez flops he'll leave Mclaren, to be replaced by di Resta. I doubt he'll flop like Kovalainen did though.
- Hulkenberg to replace Massa at Ferrari
- Massa won't find another seat, will become Pirelli test driver
- Robin Frijns debuts at Sauber
- Webber to retire
- either Riciardo or Vergne to replace him, the other one gets dumped
- di Costa and either Kvyat or Sainz Jr. to race at STR
- or.... STR to be sold
- Bianchi will debut at Force India this year, or next year; either way he'll drive there in 2014
- Marusia goes bankrupt
- Raikkonen to retire again


#64 Wander

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 20:39

Just a few predictions
- vd Garde will be gone next year since his money is up (and his talent never was)
- if Perez flops he'll leave Mclaren, to be replaced by di Resta. I doubt he'll flop like Kovalainen did though.
- Hulkenberg to replace Massa at Ferrari
- Massa won't find another seat, will become Pirelli test driver
- Robin Frijns debuts at Sauber
- Webber to retire
- either Riciardo or Vergne to replace him, the other one gets dumped
- di Costa and either Kvyat or Sainz Jr. to race at STR
- or.... STR to be sold
- Bianchi will debut at Force India this year, or next year; either way he'll drive there in 2014
- Marusia goes bankrupt
- Raikkonen to retire again


I'm betting that a maximum of 3 of those scenarios will actually happen.

#65 Jackmancer

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 20:46

I'm betting that a maximum of 3 of those scenarios will actually happen.


That's why it's a prediction, which your 'bet' is equally.

#66 onewingedangel

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 20:53

I assume that the 12th and 13th spots aren't going out to tender for 2014?

The 13th spot has been left unused since 2010's USF1 debacle, so it's surprising that there hasn't been any effort to fill the grid. And with the struggles of sponsorship at some teams it might be time to put some more backups in place.

Of course you could argue that by adding more teams you take away potential sponsors from existing teams - but when you have drivers who can bring big sponsorship sitting on the sidelines for want of a seat, I'm not sure that fully adds up - P+G, Embratel and OGX haven't gone elsewhere now that Senna is out of a seat.

2 Paydrivers (and pay reserve driver) and you are most of the way to the budget for a backmarket team.

#67 F1ultimate

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 21:19

2013 is a financially terrible year to enter as a new team. Not only do you have to develop the 2013 car but you also need to work even harder on the 2014 car. Even existing backmarkers are struggling to fulfil those parallel needs, a new team would be devastated.

#68 noikeee

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:02

2013 is a financially terrible year to enter as a new team. Not only do you have to develop the 2013 car but you also need to work even harder on the 2014 car. Even existing backmarkers are struggling to fulfil those parallel needs, a new team would be devastated.


Which is why it makes sense to raise the question here in the 2014 thread.

I am surprised there's been zero news on this front for years really, I'd have expected there to be a push by Todt's bunch into getting new teams. It needs some sort of solution to make it financially attractive though, the FIA can't do a Max Mosley v2 and con the feeder series teams and other hopefuls through a promise of low-cost F1.

2014 is the right timing with the new regs, but any new teams should be preparing already right now. I sadly don't think anyone will enter, then from '15 onwards maybe the economy will be better for this, but any new teams will then lack seasons of track experience with the new regs. It's looking grim on this front.

#69 Anderis

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:13

The biggest problem IMO with new teams is imparity in sharing money from FOM. AFAIK, 10th team in WCC gets around $40m and 11th gets around $10m. At least this is how it was in 2012.

You need to have a really rich owner to overcome that ~$25 millions you are losing this way. But this owner needs to be so rich, that he could afford to buy existing top10 WCC team and therefore get those money.

#70 George Costanza

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:30

Schumacher will make a return in 2014 with Honda as a single driver and will win an eighth WDC.



There's a better chance of Schumacher winning Le Mans than that.

IF, IF, IF he does return, it would be with Ferrari. But that's never happening....

#71 SUPRAF1

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:19

If Felipe Massa retires at the end of 2013, we'll have no more Brazilian drivers on the grid. When was the last time this happened?

#72 lustigson

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:24

If Felipe Massa retires at the end of 2013, we'll have no more Brazilian drivers on the grid. When was the last time this happened?

Well, it depends on whether Luis Razia keeps his Marussia seat. :cool:

#73 TT6

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:23

Bottas just said he's on multi year contract with Williams - althou it's not public for how long. Maybe his name should be mentioned in connection with Williams.

Source: Helsingin Sanomat 7th Feb 2013

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:55

Caterham has a deal to produce the new line of Alpine car models with Renault. Unless something odd happens Caterham will remain a Renault team.
But I am expecting a rebrand to Alpine Caterham in the near future.


There's no way I can see this happening, no way at all: Caterham are concentrating on building their brand up, by introducing new models to their range, and to lose the kit car tag that's always been associated with them. They've partnered Renault to 'build' the Alpine, to save money, but that's where the partnership begins and ends. Alpine will always be part of Renaults heritage, and not bandied about and Caterham would not want to dilute their brand. Fernandez is a smart cookie, and I can't see him doing this.

I can see another engine manufacturer coming in though.

#75 Anderis

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 13:10

Bottas just said he's on multi year contract with Williams - althou it's not public for how long. Maybe his name should be mentioned in connection with Williams.

Source: Helsingin Sanomat 7th Feb 2013

This is what I've already written many weeks ago (the beginning of 2nd page of this topic).

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 14:38

Vettel will not leave Red Bull if he wins another WDC this year. I doubt that he would leave even if he didn't.

Webber is, in my opinion, likely to be out of Red Bull after this year. He may take up a position in another team, but my guess is that he'll retire.

Alonso will stick with Ferrari and the line-ups for the rest of the top teams will be much the same as they are now with the exception that Kimi might fancy a move and that might cause a round of musical chairs.

As for the midfield and below - saying anything would be like holding your finger in the wind.

#77 ryan86

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 21:56

If Felipe Massa retires at the end of 2013, we'll have no more Brazilian drivers on the grid. When was the last time this happened?


1982 San Marino GP I believe was the last race with no Brazilians present.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 22:56

Well, it depends on whether Luis Razia keeps his Marussia seat. :cool:


If Felipe Nasr does well in GP2 this year, he could also warrant a promotion.

On a related note, there will almost certainly be no Japanese drivers, teams or engine suppliers on the grid for the first time since the early part of the 1983 season.

Edited by midgrid, 11 February 2013 - 22:58.


#79 ryan86

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 00:35

If Felipe Nasr does well in GP2 this year, he could also warrant a promotion.

On a related note, there will almost certainly be no Japanese drivers, teams or engine suppliers on the grid for the first time since the early part of the 1983 season.


One hopes that he doesn't make it to the grid until Massa retires.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:01

Kobayashi gets the drive with AF Corse in WEC driving the Ferrari 458 Italia, putting him on good terms with Ferrari and becomes the #1 candidate to replace Massa after he's given the boot when his 2013 points total is half of Alonso's again. Calling it now.;)

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:20

Kobayashi gets the drive with AF Corse in WEC driving the Ferrari 458 Italia, putting him on good terms with Ferrari and becomes the #1 candidate to replace Massa after he's given the boot when his 2013 points total is half of Alonso's again. Calling it now.;)

Dude, let it go. I like Koby too, just don't hold your breath on that one.
IF Massa stays consistent, it wouldn't suprise me at all that Ferrari keep the same lineup in '14.

Glad for KK to find a raceseat somewhere in the world, but pretty sure he's done in F1 unless Pirelli hires him for some testing then the doors not shut. Just cheer for him in '13, and deal with '14 later.

#82 tjkoyen

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:07

Dude, let it go. I like Koby too, just don't hold your breath on that one.
IF Massa stays consistent, it wouldn't suprise me at all that Ferrari keep the same lineup in '14.

Glad for KK to find a raceseat somewhere in the world, but pretty sure he's done in F1 unless Pirelli hires him for some testing then the doors not shut. Just cheer for him in '13, and deal with '14 later.


The ;) was to denote sarcasm. I honestly don't think he'll get back to F1 either.

#83 bourbon

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:38

Meh, why not...

Red Bull
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen

McLaren
Jenson Button
Sergio Perez

Ferrari
Fernando Alonso
Nico Hulkenberg

Lotus
Pastor Maldonado
Romain Grosjean

Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Rosberg

Sauber
Esteban Gutierrez
Robin Frijns

Force India
Paul Di Resta
Jules Bianchi

Williams
Valteri Bottas
James Calado

Toro Rosso
Antonio Felix da Costa
Mitch Evans

Caterham
Giedo Van de Garde
Luiz Razia

Marussia
Timo Glock
Max Chilton


:up: this - except that I don't think Glock would return with Marussia. He may win with Beemer and return to Lotus and Pastor stay where he was. Also Rossi instead of Evans. Marussia may take a russian due to the new gp in 2014 - that seems to be a trend.

#84 Ralliart

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:51

I don't see Raikkonen leaving Lotus after this season but I do see Webber gone at Red, I don't see Hulkenberg going to Ferrari, since I don't see Raikkonen leaving, Grosjean gets shown the door, unless Rosberg can be right there with Hamilton all the time, I don't see him staying.

#85 TT6

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 08:12

This is what I've already written many weeks ago (the beginning of 2nd page of this topic).


Indeed you did. Still it doesn't seem to be able to get into Lustigsons lists.

#86 lustigson

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 08:18

Indeed you did. Still it doesn't seem to be able to get into Lustigsons lists.


I must have missed that.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:21

I don't see Raikkonen leaving Lotus after this season but I do see Webber gone at Red, I don't see Hulkenberg going to Ferrari, since I don't see Raikkonen leaving, Grosjean gets shown the door, unless Rosberg can be right there with Hamilton all the time, I don't see him staying.

Seriously? Rosberg has beaten all team mates except Webber in his rookie season. Even if he does a Massa this year (which I think won't happen), he is likely to stay.

(And whether the Hulk goes to Ferrari does not only depend on whether Kimi leaves.)


#88 Jimisgod

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:34

Scuderia Ferrari
Ferrari F2014 – Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Stefano Domenicali ; Technical Director: Pat Fry
1. Fernando Alonso (contracted through '16)
2. Nico Hulkenberg

Red Bull Racing
Red Bull Racing RB10 – Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Christian Horner; Technical Director: Adrian Newey
3. Sebastian Vettel (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
4. Daniel Ricciardo

McLaren Mercedes
McLaren MP4-29 – Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Martin Whitmarsh ; Technical Director: Paddy Lowe, Neil Oatley
5. Jenson Button (contracted through '13 with option for '14)
6. Sergio Pérez (on a multi-year contract)

Lotus F1 Team
Lotus E22 – Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Eric Boullier ; Technical Director: James Allison
7. Kimi Raikkonen
8. Kamui Kobayashi (pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasse)

Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team
Mercedes F1 W05 – Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Ross Brawn ; Technical Director: Bob Bell
9. Nico Rosberg (on a multi-year deal beyond '13)
10. Lewis Hamilton (signed for '13-'15)

Sauber F1 Team
Sauber C33Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T / Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Monisha Kaltenborn ; Chief Designer: Matt Morris
11. Eustabin Gutierrez
12. Robin Frijns

Williams F1 Team
Williams FW36 – Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Frank Williams ; Technical Director: Mike Coughlan
14. Pastor Maldonado (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
15. Valteri Bottas

Sahara Force India F1 Team
Force India VJM07Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Vijay Mallya ; Technical Director: Andrew Green
16. Jules (?) Bianchi
17. Moneybag #1

Scuderia Toro Rosso
Toro Rosso STR9Renault RS28 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Franz Tost ; Technical Director: James Key
18. Antonio Felix da Costa
19. Mitch Evans

Caterham F1 Team
Caterham CT03 – Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Tony Fernandes ; Technical Director: Mark Smith
20. Charles Pic (confirmed; long-term deal)
21. Jean Eric Vergne

Marussia F1 Team
Marussia MR03Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: John Booth ; Technical Director: Pat Symonds
22. Moneybag #2
23. Moneybag #3

Edited by Jimisgod, 12 February 2013 - 09:56.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:44

My 5 c

1. RBR - Sebastian & Daniel
2. Ferrari - Fernando & Nico (H)
3. McLaren - Jenson & Sergio
4. Lotus - Kimi & Romain
5. Mercedes - Lewis & Nico ®
6. Sauber - Esteban & Robin
7. Williams - Pastor & Valtteri
8. STR - Jean-Eric & Antonio Felix
9. Force India (ownership change) - Jules & ??? paydriver
10. Caterham - ??? paydrivers
11. Marussia - ??? paydrivers

#90 HistoryFan

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:36

I think there will not that much changes:

Red Bull: Vettel - Räikkönen
Ferrari: Alonso - Hülkenberg
McLaren: Button - Perez
Lotus: Grosjean - Valsecchi
Mercedes: Rosberg - Hamilton
Sauber: Gutiérrez - Frijns
Force India: Di resta - Bianchi
Williams: Maldonado - Bottas
Caterham: Pic - Van der Garde
Marussia: Chilton - Razia

#91 F1ultimate

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:18

Kimi at Red Bull. Excellent, he will likely come on board with Finlandia as a sponsor. That should make life easy for Red Bull's in-house bartenders. However I would expect Red Bull to pick an apprentice instead - someone they can train to replace Vettel one day. How secur eis Maldonado's backing? Do you think he will really get another 30 mill for a third consecutive year from his sponsors?

#92 Anderis

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 14:19

Williams
Valteri Bottas
James Calado

I've just seen someone reffered to this.

No way it is going to happen. Maldonado brings about 1/3 of Williams' whole budget. If he is out, he has to be replaced by another paydriver. Isn't Calado supposed to have almost no backing?

#93 BackmarkerUK

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 16:12

No way it is going to happen. Maldonado brings about 1/3 of Williams' whole budget. If he is out, he has to be replaced by another paydriver. Isn't Calado supposed to have almost no backing?


Calado only has backing from Racing Steps Foundation, and it was a big enough ask to get them to pay for a second seasons of GP2. So he's not a likely replacement for Maldonado.

#94 lustigson

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 14:02

Apparently, all of Renault's teams have no deals in place for 2014 and beyond.

And I made Tim Goss McLaren's technical director.

Scuderia Ferrari
Ferrari F2014 – Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Stefano Domenicali ; Technical Director: Pat Fry
1. Fernando Alonso (contracted through '16)
2.

Red Bull Racing
Red Bull Racing RB10Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Christian Horner; Technical Director: Adrian Newey
3. Sebastian Vettel (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
4.

McLaren Mercedes
McLaren MP4-29 – Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Martin Whitmarsh ; Technical Director: Tim Goss
5. Jenson Button (contracted through '13 with option for '14)
6. Sergio Pérez (on a multi-year contract)

Lotus F1 Team
Lotus E22Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Eric Boullier ; Technical Director: James Allison
7.
8.

Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team
Mercedes F1 W05 – Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Ross Brawn ; Technical Director: Bob Bell
9. Nico Rosberg (on a multi-year deal beyond '13)
10. Lewis Hamilton (signed for '13-'15)

Sauber F1 Team
Sauber C33Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T / Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Monisha Kaltenborn ; Chief Designer: Matt Morris
11.
12.

Williams F1 Team
Williams FW36Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Frank Williams ; Technical Director: Mike Coughlan
14. Pastor Maldonado (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
15.

Sahara Force India F1 Team
Force India VJM07Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Vijay Mallya ; Technical Director: Andrew Green
16.
17.

Scuderia Toro Rosso
Toro Rosso STR9Renault RS28 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Franz Tost ; Technical Director: James Key
18.
19.

Caterham F1 Team
Caterham CT03Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Tony Fernandes ; Technical Director: Mark Smith
20. Charles Pic (confirmed; long-term deal)
21.

Marussia F1 Team
Marussia MR03Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: John Booth ; Technical Director: Pat Symonds
22.
23.

Oh, and there is continued talk, even by top Renault brass, of a fourth engine supplier joining Formula One in 2014. Allegedly it's Honda. Interesting!

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#95 Brandz07

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 14:31

Are all the technical directors British?

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 15:03

Are all the technical directors British?

I looks they are all Brtitish since the removal of GA from Torro Rosso. Who os Technical Director at Sauber?

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 15:56

Matt Morris. He is chief technican as they dont's have a technical director.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 16:04

Matt Morris. He is chief technican as they dont's have a technical director.

Strange that they are the only team not to have a technical director, maybe Merc could spare one, or two??

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 16:30

Yeah Sauber works in a weird different kind of way.

Matt Morris is in charge of the new cars and their evolutions through the season, but he doesn't get involved in the GP Weekend as much (setups, small changes to the cars, etc)

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 21:43

According to Auto, Motor und Sport, McLaren has no engine deal in place for 2014, and there are Honda engineers at the team's Woking headquarters preparing for a new cooperation.

I also added the current drivers as options for next season, while also putting the STR drivers in line for Webber's seat at Red Bull.

Scuderia Ferrari
Ferrari F2014 – Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Stefano Domenicali ; Technical Director: Pat Fry
1. Fernando Alonso (contracted through '16)
2. Felipe Massa (current driver)

Red Bull Racing
Red Bull Racing RB10Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Christian Horner; Technical Director: Adrian Newey
3. Sebastian Vettel (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
4. Mark Webber (current driver)
Daniel Ricciardo (possible)
Jean-Éric Vergne (possible)

Telmex McLaren Mercedes (title sponsorship rumoured; Vodafone deal ends)
McLaren MP4-29Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T / Honda RA168-E 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Martin Whitmarsh ; Technical Director: Tim Goss
5. Jenson Button (contracted through '13 with option for '14)
6. Sergio Pérez (on a multi-year contract)

Honeywell Lotus F1 Team[/color] (title sponsorship rumoured for '13, too)
Lotus E22Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Eric Boullier ; Technical Director: James Allison
7. Kimi Räikkönen (current driver)
8. Romain Grosjean (current driver)

Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team (HWA might get involved in ownership through Toto Wolff)
Mercedes F1 W05 – Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Ross Brawn ; Technical Director: Bob Bell
9. Nico Rosberg (on a multi-year deal beyond '13)
10. Lewis Hamilton (signed for '13-'15)

Sauber F1 Team
Sauber C33Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T / Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Monisha Kaltenborn ; Chief Designer: Matt Morris
11. Nico Hülkenberg (current driver)
12. Esteban Gutiérrez (current driver)

Williams F1 Team
Williams FW36Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Frank Williams ; Technical Director: Mike Coughlan
14. Pastor Maldonado (on a long-term deal through '14, perhaps with options)
15. Valtteri Bottas (current driver)

Sahara Force India F1 Team
Force India VJM07Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Vijay Mallya ; Technical Director: Andrew Green
16. Adrian Sutil (current driver)
17. Paul Di Resta (current driver)

Scuderia Toro Rosso
Toro Rosso STR9Renault RS28 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Franz Tost ; Technical Director: James Key
18. Daniel Ricciardo (current driver)
19. Jean-Éric Vergne (current driver)
António Félix da Costa (rumoured; perhaps already in '13)

Marussia F1 Team
Marussia MR03Mercedes FO106A 1.6 V6T / Ferrari 057 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: John Booth ; Technical Director: Pat Symonds
20. Jules Bianchi (current driver)
21. Max Chilton (current driver; maybe with long-term deal)
Luiz Razia (dropped at the 11th hour for the '13 season; welcome to return, according to the team)

Caterham F1 Team
Caterham CT03Renault RS28 1.6 V6T
Team Principal: Tony Fernandes ; Technical Director: Mark Smith
22. Charles Pic (confirmed; long-term deal)
23. Giedo van der Gard (current driver)

As a side note: if Honda were to return in 2014, wouldn't they have to supply more than one team with engines? If so, which other team might they pick? I was thinking Williams, but McLaren might feel threatened more by Williams than, say, Force India — with with McLaren have a technical deal, by the way, and a rumoured Ferrari deal involving Bianchi for 2013 didn't go through — or Marussia — with whom McLaren also have a technical agreement, although Bianchi is at the team for '13.

Additionally, Renault have stated that they would reduce their number of teams from the current 4 to 3 rather than upping it to 5 with another team. And with STR expected to join their mother team at the French manufacturer, 2 other teams would have to go. Caterham perhaps, which might run Ferraris, as well as Williams, which could then opt for Hondas (since I can't imagine them running prancing horse power)?

Edited by lustigson, 02 March 2013 - 21:51.