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#51 noikeee

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:13

Berthon could be Melker's team mate. What do you think: How good is Berthon?


Above average on occasion, but that's it at best. Much like Melker.

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#52 HistoryFan

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:59

Fortec: Oliver Webb – Stoffel Vandoorne
Tech 1: Nigel Melker – Nathanaёl Berthon (?)
Arden Caterham: Antonio Felix da Costa – Pietro Fantin
ISR: Sergey Sirotkin – Filip Salaquarda (?)
Lotus: Marco Sørensen (?) – Marlon Stöckinger (?)
Carlin: Jazeman Jaafar – Carlos Huertas (?)
Comtec: Nick Yelloly (?) – Lucas Foresti (?)
Draco: André Negrão – Nico Müller (?)
DAMS: Kevin Magnussen – Norman Nato
P1: Will Stevens – Walter Grubmüller (?)
Pons: Zoël Amberg – Luciano Bacheta (?)
AV: Arthur Pic – Yann Cunha
Zeta (?): Tamás Pál Kiss (?) – Nikolay Martsenko (?)


#53 HistoryFan

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:50

Update: Huertas at Carlin

Fortec: Oliver Webb – Stoffel Vandoorne
Tech 1: Nigel Melker – Nathanaёl Berthon (?)
Arden Caterham: Antonio Felix da Costa – Pietro Fantin
ISR: Sergey Sirotkin – Filip Salaquarda (?)
Lotus: Marco Sørensen (?) – Marlon Stöckinger (?)
Carlin: Carlos Huertas – Jazeman Jaafar
Comtec: Nick Yelloly (?) – Lucas Foresti (?)
Draco: André Negrão – Nico Müller (?)
DAMS: Kevin Magnussen – Norman Nato
P1: Will Stevens – Walter Grubmüller (?)
Pons: Zoël Amberg – Luciano Bacheta (?)
AV: Arthur Pic – Yann Cunha
Zeta (?): Tamás Pál Kiss (?) – Nikolay Martsenko (?)


#54 skywing

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:24

Matias Laine to P1.

http://www.mtv3.fi/u...emmas-f1-sarjaa

#55 Zava

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:43

at 9:45 CET, the hungarian renault representation will make an important announcement, this was shared by the hungarian WSR fb page. could be something regarding Tamás. :)

edit: it wasn't

Edited by Zava, 18 January 2013 - 09:50.


#56 CrossF1

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 13:20

Odd, but Mikhail Aleshin will partner Nigel Melker in Tech 1.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 19:06

What's with Kvyat and Sainz doing GP3, Red Bull changed their tune.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 19:37

Odd, but Mikhail Aleshin will partner Nigel Melker in Tech 1.


I suspect he won't get any F1 offers even if he wins the title a second time. Maybe if he were in GP2, but the almighty $ seems to reign supreme at the moment.

#59 KateLM

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 20:05

He's managed to get funds for 7 years of WSbR, I don't think he can play that card.

Still, you have to admire his tenacity if nothing else.

As for Kvyat and Sainz, it seems likely that they are doing GP3 as an alternative to BF3 rather than FR3.5.

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#60 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 20:09

Do Red Bull have anyone in 3.5s? I wonder if GP3 is starting to become more relevant with more power.

If GP2 isn't careful it may make itself obsolete. 3.5 is already pretty much as fast and a lot cheaper, and I think GP3 might cannibalise the back of GP2.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 20:10

Do Red Bull have anyone in 3.5s?

da Costa


#62 KateLM

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 20:15

Well there's Da Costa, obviously, but he was hardly going to do another year of GP3 regardless of the car. It will be interesting to see how Red Bull place their drivers in 12 months time, although I can't see Red Bull promoting straight from GP3 for a bit longer than that.

I don't think the difference between GP2 and FR3.5 in terms of field quality is quite as pronounced this year as in 2012 but I do wonder how long GP2 can carry on the way it is. Certainly a front running GP3 seat seems a fair bit more appealing that shelling out for a GP2 backmarker team at the moment.

#63 William Hunt

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 20:39

Fortec Motorsport (GB):
Stoffel Vandoorne (Bel)
Oliver Webb (GB)

Tech 1 Racing (Fra):
Mikhail Aleshin (Rus)
Nigel Melker (Nl)

Arden Caterham (GB) :
Antonio Felix da Costa (Por)
Pietro Fantin (Bra)

ISR (Cze):
Sergey Sirotkin (Rus)


Lotus / Charouz (Cze)



Carlin (GB):

Carlos Huertas (Col)
Jazeman Jaafar (Mal)

Comtec Racing (GB) :



Draco (Ita) :
Nico Müller (Sui)
André Negrão (Bra)

DAMS (Fra):
Kevin Magnussen (Dk)
Norman Nato (Fra)

P1 Motorsport (Nl):
Will Stevens (GB)
Mathias Laine (Fin)

Pons Racing (Esp):
Zoël Amberg (Sui)


AV Formula (Esp):
Arthur Pic (Fra)
Yann Cunha (Bra)

Zeta Corse (Ita):

Edited by William Hunt, 12 February 2013 - 20:39.


#64 Lotusseven

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 20:53

When is the FR 3.5 tests, dates anyone ?

#65 HistoryFan

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:34

Zeta isn't yet safe to drive...
Only 12 teams confirmed.

#66 Yhamm

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 20:25

When is the FR 3.5 tests, dates anyone ?

22-23 February : Motorland Aragón
8-9 March : Paul Ricard
19-20 March : Circuit de Catalunya

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:00

22-23 February : Motorland Aragón
8-9 March : Paul Ricard
19-20 March : Circuit de Catalunya


Thank you very much ! :up:

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 20:37

Stockinger and Sorensen confirmed at Lotus.

Happy to see Stockinger get a seat in FR3.5.

#69 William Hunt

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 21:47

Fortec Motorsport (GB):
Stoffel Vandoorne (Bel)
Oliver Webb (GB)

Tech 1 Racing (Fra):
Mikhail Aleshin (Rus)
Nigel Melker (Nl)

Arden Caterham (GB) :
Antonio Felix da Costa (Por)
Pietro Fantin (Bra)

ISR (Cze):
Sergey Sirotkin (Rus)


Lotus / Charouz (Cze)
Marco Sörensen (Dk)
Marlon Stockinger (Phil)

Carlin (GB):

Carlos Huertas (Col)
Jazeman Jaafar (Mal)

Comtec Racing (GB) :



Draco (Ita) :
Nico Müller (Sui)
André Negrão (Bra)

DAMS (Fra):
Kevin Magnussen (Dk)
Norman Nato (Fra)

P1 Motorsport (Nl):
Will Stevens (GB)
Mathias Laine (Fin)

Pons Racing (Esp):
Zoël Amberg (Sui)


AV Formula (Esp):
Arthur Pic (Fra)
Yann Cunha (Bra)

Zeta Corse (Ita):

Edited by William Hunt, 15 February 2013 - 21:47.


#70 William Hunt

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 20:19

Stoffel Vandoorne was fastest today at Aragon at the first pre season test session. Müller 2nd followed by Move, Da Costa, Dillman (for ISR), Webb, Fantin, Amberg, Jaafar and Foresti (Comtec) to round of the top 10. Zeta Corse was present with Zampieri and Marinescu who posted the 13th & 14th time respectively.



#71 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 20:51

That was the morning times. End of the day was

1 - Stoffel Vandoorne - Fortec - 1'39"913 - 29
2 - Antonio Felix Da Costa - Arden Caterham - 1'40"055 - 26
3 - Daniil Move - Comtec - 1'40"068 - 40
4 - Nico Muller - Draco - 1'40"162 - 26
5 - Will Stevens - P1 - 1'40"325 - 31
6 - Andre Negrao - Draco - 1'40"398 - 33
7 - Pietro Fantin - Arden Caterham - 1'40"728 - 26
8 - Matias Laine - P1 - 1'40"731 - 23
9 - Norman Nato - Dams - 1'40"734 - 16
10 - Tom Dillmann - ISR - 1'40"734 - 32
11 - Sergey Sirotkin - ISR - 1'41"036 - 23
12 - Marco Sorensen - Lotus - 1'41"089 - 29
13 - Marlon Stockinger - Lotus - 1'41"120 - 29
14 - Nikolay Martsenko - Pons - 1'41"174 - 39
15 - Zoel Amberg - Pons - 1'41"176 - 22
16 - Kevin Magnussen - Dams - 1'41"236 - 28
17 - Oliver Webb - Fortec - 1'41"320 - 24
18 - Lucas Foresti - Comtec - 1'41"361 - 30
19 - Mikhail Aleshin - Tech 1 - 1'41"460 - 20
20 - Jazeman Jaafar - Carlin - 1'41"496 - 36
21 - Nigel Melker - Tech 1 - 1'41"752 - 22
22 - Mihai Marinescu - Zeta - 1'42"567 - 26
23 - Arthur Pic - AV - 1'42"790 - 16
24 - Yann Cunha - AV - 1'42"940 - 18
25 - Carlos Huertas - Carlin - 1'43"280 - 19
26 - Daniel Zampieri - Zeta - 1'43"304 - 22

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:38

It was going to happen sooner or later, Fortec doing the harlem shake!

http://www.youtube.c...8...aLw&index=1

#73 HistoryFan

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:55

It is snowing, so WSbR test today is cancelled.

Who should test today?

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:08

Daniil Move and Sergey Zlobin are brothers. Is that true? Why do they have different names?

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 15:07

Daniil Move and Sergey Zlobin are brothers. Is that true? Why do they have different names?


Maybe you should ask their mother?
btw, do you have any source to back this up.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 15:37

Maybe you should ask their mother?
btw, do you have any source to back this up.


He probably found it here:

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Daniil_Move

In the 'related to' section

#77 William Hunt

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 16:38

Zlobin is so much older than Move, it's highly unlikely + the last name difference (that can only be explained if their mother had sons with 2 different fathers).

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 17:36

Here's an interview in which he does mention Zlobin as his elder brother, so it seems to be true.

http://translate.goo.....rticle_id=169

#79 noikeee

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 15:00

Felix da Costa topped the morning session today at Paul Record with a gap of over 2 seconds over 2nd place. Totally meaningless as he went out in the last minute in a drying session, but I wanted to rub this in! :D

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#80 HistoryFan

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 21:25

Is there a complete result?

#81 HaydenFan

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 00:28

http://www.worldseri...ay1_Morning.csv

#82 HistoryFan

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:29

ISR and Pons tested some experieced driver. But why? The car is the same as last year?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:36

ISR and Pons tested some experieced driver. But why? The car is the same as last year?


It is and, as far as I understand, ISR don't have a second driver lined up yet, so they're just taking development drivers to the tests. As for Pons, this is their lineup - Amberg and Martsenko.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:10

Sorry not Pons, but Zeta. Okay they are new

but I fear ISR has the same problem than iSport...

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 19:39

Felix da Costa was fastest today, only man to get under 47...

Here are the full times:

1º António Félix da Costa 1m46.425
2º Stoffel Vandoorne 1m47.007
3º Arthur Pic 1m47.134
4º Kevin Magnussen 1m47.184
5º Sam Bird 1m47.278
6º Marco Sorensen 1m47.375
7º Nico Müller 1m47.393
8º André Negrão 1m47.497
9º Norman Nato 1m47.650
10º Lucas Foresti 1m47.655
11º Jazeman Jaafar 1m47.733
12º Sergey Sirotkin 1m47.964
13º Daniil Move 1m48.009
14º Nigel Melker 1m48.022
15º Pietro Fantin 1m48.099
16º Zoel Amberg 1m48.117
17º Carlos Huertas 1m48.125
18º Oliver Webb 1m48.142
19º Will Stevens 1m48.381
20º Mikhail Aleshin 1m48.392
21º Daniel Zampieri 1m48.394
22º Nikolay Martsenko 1m48.405
23º Matias Laine 1m48.554
24º Marlon Stöckinger 1m48.923
25º Yann Cunha 1m49.827
26º Mihai Marinescu 1m49.944

Edited by cleobis, 09 March 2013 - 19:39.


#86 William Hunt

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:23

Stoffel Vandoorne has done exceptionally well for a rookie during winter testing so far

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:32

Sorry not Pons, but Zeta. Okay they are new

but I fear ISR has the same problem than iSport...


New ? As far as I have understand Zeta Corse is former BVM Target, only name change.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 12:17

Giancarlo Zampieri (father of Daniel) bought the slot with many spanish team members from HRT, Epsilon Euskadi and EPIC.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 10:40

Only testing etc, but the pecking order really does correlate with what we'd expect doesn't it. AFdC as super-quick or even more so than he was at the end of last season, Vandoorne looking like the 2nd coming of Frijns, the likes of Magnussen, Bird, Muller close to them, there in the mix.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 13:25

Only testing etc, but the pecking order really does correlate with what we'd expect doesn't it. AFdC as super-quick or even more so than he was at the end of last season, Vandoorne looking like the 2nd coming of Frijns, the likes of Magnussen, Bird, Muller close to them, there in the mix.


Is Bird actually running this year? Thought he was just testing.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 14:32

Is Bird actually running this year? Thought he was just testing.


He was there more or less to get a second opinion by the team on the car to help there rookie driver. Hasn't been confirmed, but it seems as if he might get the seat as the team didn't bring anyone else in at the test, nor no names have been mentioned.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 14:36

Autosport said that Bird isn't a contender for the seat.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:22

How is that possible: Jaafar yesterday at Sepang demo run and in WSbR test in Barcelona? :eek:

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 20:33

'm expecting:

1. Da Costa
2. Magnussen
3. Sorensen
4. Müller
5. Pic
6. Vandoorne
7. Stevens
8. Nato
9. Sirotkin
10. Huertas
11. Melker
12. Aleshin
13. Jaafar
14. Negrao
15. Stöckinger
16. Webb
17. Move
18. Foresti
19. Zanella
20. Amberg
21. Martsenko
22. Cunha
23. Laine
24. Marinescu
25. Fantin
26. Piget


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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:14

Vandoorne has left them all for dead. Some pretty amateurish driving at the moment though, be interesting to see if Da Costa can catch Vandoorne now he's up to P2.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:16

Vandoorne has left them all for dead. Some pretty amateurish driving at the moment though, be interesting to see if Da Costa can catch Vandoorne now he's up to P2.

yup, finally something worked in favour of da Costa... anyone knows what happened to him at the start?

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:17

Da Costa made a great overtake on the inside into the first chicane. And Stevens is driving like a solid noob over those bumps.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:20

yup, finally something worked in favour of da Costa... anyone knows what happened to him at the start?


I don't, it was weird, his reaction speed looked great but he just seemed to fall back after that, strange.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:24

Da Costa is brutal.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:26

Well, that's a shame.