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#1 Supersox

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 16:13

I read today there is talk of the Goodwood Revival being transported to the US-Amelia Island the proposed venue.
Seems to me Disneyland would be far more suitable.


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#2 Vitesse2

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 16:57

I read today there is talk of the Goodwood Revival being transported to the US-Amelia Island the proposed venue.
Seems to me Disneyland would be far more suitable.

And your reasoning behind that entirely unsubstantiated bit of flame bait is?

#3 AAGR

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 17:49

Supersox, clearly you have never been to the Revival weekend ....

#4 Emery0323

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 17:57

Is there any kind of permanent circuit on Amelia Island? If this were true, it sounds like it would have to be on some sort of public-street circuit.

#5 bill p

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 18:01

"Google" turns up the following, http://www.autominde...od-revival/news

#6 Allen Brown

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 18:02

Supersox, clearly you have never been to the Revival weekend ....


True, he's usually only there on Thursday and Friday.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 18:41

If someone can make the "Revival" concept work elsewhere good luck to them, I don't see any particular reason why the concept of dressing up to go to the races should be unique to Britain in general and Goodwood in particular.

#8 Sharman

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 20:14

They'll have fun trying to enforce the no jeans rule.

#9 David Beard

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 20:48

"Those who attend the U.K. event know that it is not just vintage racing."

It's not vintage racing at all, actually. ;)

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 21:03

Oh yes please! Amelia Island is closer to my new home than Goodwood was to my old one. Fingers crossed that this comes off.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 21:13

"Those who attend the U.K. event know that it is not just vintage racing."

It's not vintage racing at all, actually.;)


I believe what we call classic on this side of the pond they call vintage on theirs David :lol:

#12 Garagiste

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 21:28

"Vintage" is so rarely used correctly that I'm now more surprised when it is than annoyed when it isn't.

#13 Ted Walker

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:31

I await Dougs comments with interest !!!!!!!

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:37

In the same way that we sold London Bridge to the Americans when they thought they were purchasing Tower Bridge, here's an opportunity to offload the Cholmondeley Pageant of Power. I'm sure the accompanying weather would be much appreciated in a hot Amelia Island summer... :smoking:

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:13

I read today there is talk of the Goodwood Revival being transported to the US-Amelia Island the proposed venue.
Seems to me Disneyland would be far more suitable.


I think one point being missed here is that Goodwood had actually been the venue of International racing in that period, which Amelia Island wasn't.

On the other hand, Walt Disney World Speedway was a motor racing venue, albeit in the 1990s, so 'the Mickyard' makes a far more appropriate venue.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:58

I think one point being missed here is that Goodwood had actually been the venue of International racing in that period, which Amelia Island wasn't.

On the other hand, Walt Disney World Speedway was a motor racing venue, albeit in the 1990s, so 'the Mickyard' makes a far more appropriate venue.


While I do not believe it is a pre requisite to hold a fancy dress party and associated classic races at a historic venue, if there was one place that fits the bill in Florida I'd have thought it would be Sebring though I'm sure those with local knowledge might be able to come up with one or two more.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:17

I read today there is talk of the Goodwood Revival being transported to the US-Amelia Island the proposed venue.

Where did you read it, and whom were they quoting as a prime source?
Roger Lund

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:25

Where did you read it, and whom were they quoting as a prime source?
Roger Lund


It's mentioned on this link.


#19 Supersox

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:50

It will be a nice opportunity for the fake Marilyn Monroe and Laurel and Hardy to return whence they came. Bit of luck they'll stay there.

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#20 Alan Cox

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:28

In the same way that we sold London Bridge to the Americans when they thought they were purchasing Tower Bridge,

A popular urban myth
http://www.thisisloc..._to_the_states/

#21 Giraffe

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:32

I read today there is talk of the Goodwood Revival being transported to the US-Amelia Island the proposed venue.
Seems to me Disneyland would be far more suitable.


If it works, this could be a real moneyspinning francise opportunity. Every state could have a McGoodwood. :smoking:

#22 JacnGille

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:48

McGoodwood. :smoking:

:up:

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 14:48

Watkins Glen could do this rather well. I adhere to the Goodwood was an old racetrack and that is what makes the event. A race on an airport by Amelia Island just won't do it for this Yankee.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 15:03

Makes more sense to do the Festival rather than Revival at Amelia.It would work in March as assume it would take same date as concours

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 15:48

Having read the article I'm not quite sure what they are hoping to do at Amelia Island. They mention closing the airport to make a race circuit but keeping one runway open for vintage aircraft.

They are clearly aiming at providing a "Goodwood-like" experience, but what do they understand by "Goodwood-like, is it:
(a) A race meeting for historic/ classic/ vintage cars combined with a 'meet' for historic/ classic/ vintage aircraft including flying and static displays.
(b) A giant "fancy dress" party with people dresing up in retro clothing.
© The whole place decked out to be a re-creation of a hypothetical "fifties" race meeting: In their case it would have to be an SCCA amateur meeting on an airfield somewhere.
(d) A collection of "period" tableaux.

But have those proposing the idea ever been to the Revival and seen how the different elements are merged into each other and how carefully this is done. Or are they basing their plans on some rose-tinted reports?

The risk of the whole thing becoming a Disneyland-style fantasy re-creation is all too real. Even Goodwood stray that way at times.

Edited by D-Type, 28 October 2012 - 16:00.


#26 Peter Morley

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 16:06

Why don't they hold something at Paramount Ranch, that has a racing history and the faux-period-celebrities would be right at home.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 16:20

No ‘U.S. Goodwood’ planned

http://www.autoweek....gn=awdailydrive


Following the recent very successful Goodwood Revival, where more than 150,000 people packed the vintage racetrack in the south of England at the end of September for three days of vintage racing and celebrating cars and drivers from the past, rumors ran through U.S. vintage-car circles that a similar “Goodwood-type” event was being planned for North America.

In many ways, it would make perfect sense. There are several very popular, highly successful concours where a vintage racing event would prove popular. Already, vintage racing is part of the long Monterey Weekend surrounding the wildly successful Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance, although the two events—the racing at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca and the concours at the Pebble Beach Golf Links—are separate and run by different organizations.

And the Hilton Head Motoring Festival and Concours d’Elegance operates a vintage race—the Savannah Speed Classic in Savannah, Ga.—in conjunction with its week-long celebration of the automobile.

In further thought, the Amelia Island Concours d’Elegance would be a natural, as event organizer Bill Warner is a big motorsports fan, and the popular seminars staged during the Amelia event celebrate racing, race cars and racers from the past.

Warner moved quickly to dispel the Goodwood-Amelia rumor.

“We have read the various reports about the Amelia Island Concours d’Elegance being in talks to bring a Goodwood-like revival to the United States, and they are not true,” Warner said. “The Amelia Island Concours d’Elegance Foundation has only approached the City of Fernandina (Fla.) and The Fernandina Beach Airport officials to determine whether a vintage racing event could take place on their facility. While we certainly respect Goodwood as an organization, we are not currently involved in bringing this event to the States and any statement suggesting that we are is purely speculative.”

Likewise, Mark Featherstone, CEO of Goodwood, said it was all just a case of “crossed wires.”

“A recent American press report has inaccurately speculated that Goodwood may soon be introducing its successful Revival event into the USA,” Featherstone said. “Goodwood can confirm that it has no knowledge and no intention of running such an event outside of the United Kingdom at this stage.”

Producing such a lavish event as the Goodwood Revival takes a large staff and a large venue in which to stage it. Part of what makes the Revival so successful is the venue itself, which looks as if it has been locked in a time warp for the past six decades or so. Spectators and participants are encouraged to dress in vintage attire, and the vast majority do so.

While official parties saying there are no plans in the works should stifle the rumor mill, there remains no reason to think such an event couldn’t be successful in the States. Seeing vintage race cars on a track doing what they were built to do is still a powerful draw for young and old.







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Posted 26 October 2012 - 16:28

Having read the article I'm not quite sure what they are hoping to do at Amelia Island. They mention closing the airport to make a race circuit but keeping one runway open for vintage aircraft.

They are clearly aiming at providing a "Goodwood-like" experience, but what do they understand by "Goodwood-like, is it:
(a) A race meeting for historic/ classic/ vintage cars combined with a 'meet' for historic/ classic/ vintage aircraft including flying and static displays.
(b) A giant "fancy dress" party with people dresing up in retro clothing.
© The whole place decked out to be a re-creation of a hypothetical "fifties" race meeting: In their case it would have to be an SCCA on an airfield somewhere.
(d) A collection of "period" tableaux.

But have those proposing the idea ever been to the Revival and seen how the different elements are merged into each other and how carefully this is done. Or are they basing their plans on some rose-tinted reports?

The risk of the whole thing becoming a Disneyland-style fantasy re-creation is all too real. Even Goodwood stray that way at times.


STRAY !

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 16:31

Supersox, clearly you have never been to the Revival weekend ....



Graham you will be telling me next that the several Sunday afternoons I have spent with you on Brighton seafront commentary box in Novembers gone by were my imagination next.
Best regards.

Edited by Supersox, 26 October 2012 - 16:32.


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 17:05

Watkins Glen could do this rather well. I adhere to the Goodwood was an old racetrack and that is what makes the event. A race on an airport by Amelia Island just won't do it for this Yankee.


I agree that the Glen could do this rather well but I was under the impression that due to it's northern latitude the Glen would be frozen over during the timescale mentioned in the article, ie the European off season.

Now that the whole thing has been officially denied by all parties concerned I wonder how long it be before some sort of Goodwood Revival World Tour is announced ?

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 17:43

Don't really care if it's Goodwood "branded" or not, I'm watching this with interest. Any racing taking place a mere Mayport ferry away and I'm there.

#32 David M. Kane

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 22:29

Isn't this something Bobby Rahal already tried?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 13:27

Not going to happen. Next topic.

#34 paulhooft

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:14

O, I was always thinking that Disneyland already had another Typical American Themepark called: Pebble Beach! :rotfl:


I read today there is talk of the Goodwood Revival being transported to the US-Amelia Island the proposed venue.
Seems to me Disneyland would be far more suitable.


Edited by paulhooft, 28 October 2012 - 16:01.


#35 David Birchall

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 15:39

I would have thought that the Monterey Historic/Pebble Beach weekend would be much more appropriate but it is already so successful that they don't need to "dress it up". Historic planes do come and put on shows over the event--I recall a P51 putting on a great aerial display back in the eighties. But there isn't the room there to land aircraft anymore-I don't think so anyway...

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 00:15

Every state could have a McGoodwood.

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Well, as a former French citizen, now a "Yank", I would be very cautious If I were a Brit (and my mom was) to demean American food compared to eer... the British stuff they call that same name. With all due respect.
Or at least wait a century or two for the Italians to take over all the food concessions in the UK.