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#101 Bocmax

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 06:30

If Kobayashi doesn't get a drive next year I'll be so pissed off with F1 I might just stop watching. Not just because I'm a Koba fan, but that will finally convince me this 'sport' is a joke.

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#102 bmardini

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 06:54

I'll probably stop watching when it goes electrical or when there is another car in another series that laps quicker.

However, at the moment, I've stopped watching FP1, 2 and 3. I used to follow avidly, especially in 2007/2008.

I've also stopped going to the races. I've been to Montreal twice, Abu Dhabi twice, Bahrain 3 times, Sepang once, and Nurburgring once. I have a free VIP ticket for Abu Dhabi this weekend and can't be bothered, would rather watch it on TV with my live timing and my commentary and air conditioning and comfy couch and so on.

The cars themselves don't interest me anymore. I used to ooh and ahh about an F1 car but now the engines are boring (no longer 21K rpm, only 700-ish hP), the weight is boring (minimum weight of 640kg puts them pretty close to Radical SR3's, so nothing earth shattering), the aero is boring (skinny rear wing, gimmicky DRS, diffusers are small), the driving "experience" isn't so interesting (looks more like a computer control panel than a steering wheel), and so on. I remember walking into the Mclaren showroom and they had a 2008 F1 car on display and it looked mean, fast, and beautiful. Last year I took a photo next to the RB7 and don't even think I kept the pic.

I also am not thrilled about how racing in general has become more about money than talent (at all levels - but particularly in single seaters), and that the business side seems to be almost as prevalent as the sporting side.

I think I'll stop watching inside the next 24 months.

#103 Henrytheeigth

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:43

I've decided to look at F1 as cricket on a race track. Cricket can be boring, or exciting. But I love cricket and I love F1 no matter what, for I am powerless to change things, which is strange for a King I know haha, so that's that. :)

I guess a chess lover can make the same analogy...

#104 UPRC

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:29

I might tune out most of next season if F1 stays as The Vettel Show. I hated watching F1 live when Schumacher was dominating, and he was my favourite driver at the time. It gets really dull when it's just one guy winning over and over regardless of how much you like him. I don't like Vettel at all, so a repeat of Schumacher-esque domination would kill my interest in F1 for a while.

#105 GregAU

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 20:39

Funny thing about this thread is I was about to reply with why I would stop watching and realized I already have.

I've moved on to real racing...MotoGP and AMA Motocross/Supercross.

F1 is okay as a tech demonstration, but racing it isnt....Newey should be crowned 3 x WDC IMO.

#106 Fergo

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 21:06

Only if they have a breakaway series. I do get bored with some races like Korea for example but I can't ever see myself not watching anymore.

#107 F1Champion

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 21:14

BBC and Sky split has made me less interested in F1 but the long highlights show is good, but I don't really watch live races anymore and if it ever goes 100% to Sky, then I will probably stop. The racing just doesn't do it for me anymore, DRS is a joke and the lack of defending possible from it removes real driver skill in my opinion.

#108 BCM

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:14

I stopped watching for a few years after Senna died. Just lost interest in it for a while.

Enjoying it again now and I think I'll probably enjoy it for the rest of my life.

I used to religiously watch the WRC back in the early 90s as well. I loved all the Group A cars and drivers like McRae, Sainz, Makkinnen, Kankkunen etc but I've totally lost interest now. For me part of the attraction was that the cars they rallyed were based on cars they had to homologate for the public. These days they are just a silhouette series and bear no resemblance to any road car you can buy.

Edited by BCM, 01 November 2012 - 01:15.


#109 Rentta

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:16

F1 + closed cockpits

#110 Jedi_F1

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 15:09

.. when I'm dead.

#111 MP422

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 15:38

Lotta sour grapes in this thread, F1 is better the ever. If you don't see that you haven't followed the sport close enough.

#112 Frank Tuesday

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 15:46

Lotta sour grapes in this thread, F1 is better the ever. If you don't see that you haven't followed the sport close enough.


It may or may not be better than ever, but it certainly is different than ever.

#113 MONTOYASPEED

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 16:16

F1 hasn't been what it used to be for a few years. I gotta say that to me the last "great" year of F1 was 2007 with Alonso and Hamilton. The ending of the 2008 WDC was amazing, but ever since it hasn't been the same.

I don't think I'll ever just stop following it but I don't do it as much as I used to.

#114 Craven Morehead

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 16:22

I will never stop.

#115 UPRC

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 16:30

Lotta sour grapes in this thread, F1 is better the ever. If you don't see that you haven't followed the sport close enough.


Um, no. Red Bull domination is fine for a year or two, but for any longer than that and it is likely harmful to the sport. People lose interest when the same people are winning all the time. Who would have thought, huh?

#116 spacekid

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 17:17

I've decided to look at F1 as cricket on a race track. Cricket can be boring, or exciting. But I love cricket and I love F1 no matter what, for I am powerless to change things, which is strange for a King I know haha, so that's that. :)

I guess a chess lover can make the same analogy...


Its an interesting analogy you make Henry, as I used to love test cricket. Then it moved to Sky (so I was unable to watch) and pretty soon I lost interest and now I couldn't care less.

Its also an interesting analogy as I don't like 20/20 cricket at all, but I recognise that the instant action and graitification is what brings the money in. DRS and regs/tyres designed to 'spice up' the 'show' remind me of 20/20 cricket a lot.

#117 FerrariFanInTexas

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 20:10

When Ferrari leave the sport, so will I.

#118 paulrobs

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 20:16

Something's happening for me this year for sure. I always used to get up to watch the races live and now I find myself getting up a little later and then fast forwarding through some parts of the race. That's all I can say. Can't put my finger on exactly why this is but I know that I don't have the same enthusiasm for it this year.

#119 Sakae

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 20:24

Breakaway open-wheel series with different sporting and technical regulations could pull me over, especially if only automakers participated. Sixteen cars and eighteen races annually plus some testing would suffice to get my undivided attention.

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#120 Ragingjamaican

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 22:18

Something's happening for me this year for sure. I always used to get up to watch the races live and now I find myself getting up a little later and then fast forwarding through some parts of the race. That's all I can say. Can't put my finger on exactly why this is but I know that I don't have the same enthusiasm for it this year.


I have the same feeling, although I don't fast forward through the race, I find myself just checking my phone or surfing the net at the same time, while before I was constantly hooked. Even used to watch the free practice sessions, the race build up, and the race analyses. The past 5-7 races, I've just watched the race and that's it.

Wasn't even going to get up for the Indian GP

#121 FigJam

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 23:20

Lotta sour grapes in this thread, F1 is better the ever. If you don't see that you haven't followed the sport close enough.


I'm really struggling to process this comment. But hey...whatever floats your boat.

No chance I follow F1 like I used to. Now its watch parts of a race if I'm literally doing nothing else...whereas through the 80's/90's and early 00's I was a hardcore fan. The cars were beasts, the drivers were gladiators, the sponsors were glamorous, the paddock had personalities and flamboyance.

It ain't nothing like that now.


#122 George Costanza

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 23:25

Probably never. I am a fan of MS and Fernando Alonso, when Alonso retires, probably will not watch as much....

I do agree, it's a pale shadow of its self of say, late 80s and 90s and early-mid 2000s.

#123 August

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 23:29

Something's happening for me this year for sure. I always used to get up to watch the races live and now I find myself getting up a little later and then fast forwarding through some parts of the race. That's all I can say. Can't put my finger on exactly why this is but I know that I don't have the same enthusiasm for it this year.


I gotta say that my interest in F1 started to decrease already in last autumn. Last season was so boring. And usually I follow F1 news very closely also during the off-season, but last winter I hardly followed test results. Over the last ten years, there was probably no days when I didn't think about F1, it was my biggest interest. But during last autumn, I started feeling tired of F1. I just felt I don't care about this sport that's going to a wrong direction.

This season for sure has been more interesting than the previous season, but on the other hand I think it's also been more terrible. The three first races were promising, but Bahrain showed this is gonna be a tyre management exercise. The only thing I enjoyed in that race was that there was a Finn on podium again. After BCN I had a bit more interest, it was so great to see Williams winning once again. But as Williams couldn't become a regular frontrunner, my interest started to fade away.

I hope there would be one day the top tier racing series that'd have really challenging circuits and cars that can make natural (i.e. non-DRS-aided) overtakes. And there would be no technical grid penalties and the only tyre rule would be that there's a tyre war. Besides that series would have races in places where people lave racing. That sounds very much the F1 fell in love as 8-year-old in 1998. I think I'd love that series.

#124 HP

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 23:45

At this point I'm going to say I will always be interested in F1, unless someone more political divisive than Mr Mosley takes over the reign at FIA. In hindsight I clearly see that during the period of Max Mosley at the helm of FIA was the time that I least enjoyed F1.

There had been times when I thought to put F1 behind me. Come a new season however my interest came back.

In general, since Mr. Mosley left his post as FIA president, F1 has become much more enjoyable again for me. While there is still political BS going on, it's easily bearable. Now the F1 headlines are about racing again as it ought to be, not some scandals as part of political powerplay.

Just to be clear Mr. Mosley did some good things to the sport, but he was way too much into politics than what was healthy for the sport and it was killing my interest into F1. If I'd be interested in politics, car racing ain't the place I'd go and look for it. Also an F1 race isn't like a game of chess, even though Mr. Mosley said that it is.

Well Mr. Mosley gone and so my passion for the sport returned. So as long the political noise is being kept down, I will continue to follow F1.



#125 Kingshark

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:49

If Kobayashi doesn't get a drive next year I'll be so pissed off with F1 I might just stop watching. Not just because I'm a Koba fan, but that will finally convince me this 'sport' is a joke.

Why? Because a guy that will have had over 3 years and 80 GP's to impressive but failed to capitalize on his chance doesn't get a ride for next season? That's the harsh truth. How does that make F1 a joke?

You don't sound like much of a fan of F1 either.

#126 ClubmanGT

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:01

Why? Because a guy that will have had over 3 years and 80 GP's to impressive but failed to capitalize on his chance doesn't get a ride for next season? That's the harsh truth. How does that make F1 a joke?


Two words: Jenson Button.

#127 WatchingF1since4yearsold

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:44

Why? Because a guy that will have had over 3 years and 80 GP's to impressive but failed to capitalize on his chance doesn't get a ride for next season? That's the harsh truth. How does that make F1 a joke?

You don't sound like much of a fan of F1 either.


that's incredibly harsh on Kobyashi...personally I think he's done pretty well so far in his career and it's only the fact Perez has done so well this season that's overshadowed that.

#128 chdphd

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:47

If I can stick it through 2002 and 2004 I'm sure I'll never give up. I've made too much of a commitment. I also intend to visit every grand prix, so even new races have an interest for me as it could be a new country to visit.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:05

Why? Because a guy that will have had over 3 years and 80 GP's to impressive but failed to capitalize on his chance doesn't get a ride for next season? That's the harsh truth. How does that make F1 a joke?

You don't sound like much of a fan of F1 either.


Kobayashi clearly has raw talent and deserves to be there. Yes he's made mistakes but dumping a driver like that will finally make me think F1 has lost the plot.

And I've been with F1 consistently since about 85, so pretty much a fan :up:

#130 kismet

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:53

I'm easy; I'll watch if it's on telly and I have nothing better to do. I basically use sports broadcasts as a relaxing background noise in my household; I don't organise my life around F1 broadcasts and it doesn't bother me if I miss a GP or twelve but if I'm just puttering around when a race is on...

#131 FredF1

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:23

I'm easy; I'll watch if it's on telly and I have nothing better to do. I basically use sports broadcasts as a relaxing background noise in my household; I don't organise my life around F1 broadcasts and it doesn't bother me if I miss a GP or twelve but if I'm just puttering around when a race is on...



That's pretty much me as well.

What do people feel about the more general attitude towards F1, anecdotally speaking? I mean, if posters on here saying they're losing interest, that's a specific thing. If there's new fans joining all the time then such half-hearted followers won't be missed. Only, nobody I know even mentions F1 let alone actually follows it. I never hear it mentioned in the pub, at work, in the street, never see anyone wearing F1 merchandise, nothing. My other internet haunts barely mention it and, if they do, it's of the "Almost as/more boring than golf." variety. Of all those that I know, about 8-10 individuals, who used to watch F1 and go to the occasional race - they've all given up completely on it and don't miss it either.

#132 Vic Vega

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:02

I'll stop watching when they start broadcasting circus shows on bimonthly basis. That would render F1 completely useless.

Edited by Vic Vega, 02 November 2012 - 14:02.


#133 jeze

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:28

I'll presume I'll be desperate to watch it after a while next year but the main thing for myself is that I'm saving £650 in TV and telephone bills next year - that's a lot of money for a student. There's always sports bars. But F1 is the only thing on TV I will miss.

#134 BullHead

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:57

When Newscorp owns it...

#135 zachary2142

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 17:59

You know, earlier I said that I'll stop watching F1 when it'll get boring for me. But after today's action on this forum (after Lewis' comments about Vettel and his car and Vettel's stoppage post-qualifying) I'd like to change my answer and say that I'll stop watching F1 when this forum is closed. So many "entertaining" threads and people here - watching F1 without them won't be the same for me.

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#136 joshb

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 20:44

So all the plastic fans will suddenly have a change of heart andwatch the race tomorrow then?

#137 king_crud

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 16:08

That's pretty much me as well.

What do people feel about the more general attitude towards F1, anecdotally speaking? I mean, if posters on here saying they're losing interest, that's a specific thing. If there's new fans joining all the time then such half-hearted followers won't be missed. Only, nobody I know even mentions F1 let alone actually follows it. I never hear it mentioned in the pub, at work, in the street, never see anyone wearing F1 merchandise, nothing. My other internet haunts barely mention it and, if they do, it's of the "Almost as/more boring than golf." variety. Of all those that I know, about 8-10 individuals, who used to watch F1 and go to the occasional race - they've all given up completely on it and don't miss it either.


I have a few around, my bosses are into it so it's always talked about at work. And my friends all discovered that we all followed it but didn't know that each other did. So there's now a bit of talk around it, and asa a group we basically go to a race each year.

#138 biercemountain

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 17:36

I only stopped watching because Hurricane Sandy knocked the power out.

#139 l8apex

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 17:54

McLaren build a road going SUV.