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#51 choyothe

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:41

that's not a fair thing to say as Hamilton also had his bad luck from the front in abu dhabi, 2011 just levelled that.;)


True, although at that point Hamilton's win was anything but secure with Vettel keeping right behind him and IIRC was fuelled to go further in his 2nd stint. OTOH even the Vettel haters would say Vettel's win was a foregone conclusion after turn 1 without the tyre.  ;)

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#52 choyothe

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:42

Yup - but it's quite close between the two. Hamilton and Vettel both had a DNF from a good position to complicate things. Hamilton has more points here than Vettel (43 to 35) because Vettel's first win here was when it awarded 10 points instead of 25.

Wins: Vettel (2), Hamilton (1)
Podiums: Button (3), Vettel (2), Hamilton (2), Alonso (1), Webber (1)
Poles: Vettel (2), Hamilton (1)
Fastest Laps: Vettel (1), Hamilton (1), Webber (1)
Points: Hamilton (43), Button (36), Vettel (35), Alonso (24), Webber (24), etc.
KMs led: Vettel (439), Hamilton (372), Button (83), Alonso (17), Webber (6)


So in other words Vettel has 50 points here.

#53 GotYoubyTheBalls

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:53

What have Mclaren drivers been doing with this rocketship....

Just goes to show Vettel really takes proper advantage of a competitive car.

#54 oligc94

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:55

What have Mclaren drivers been doing with this rocketship....

Just goes to show Vettel really takes proper advantage of a competitive car.


Either that or this track just suits McLaren more than other recent races. Come on, we don't even know if the practice times are representative of the cars' relative pace anyway...

#55 GX390

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:55

So in other words Vettel has 50 points here.


35+25 = 60 not 50 :p

#56 BernieEc

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:57

Yup - but it's quite close between the two. Hamilton and Vettel both had a DNF from a good position to complicate things. Hamilton has more points here than Vettel (43 to 35) because Vettel's first win here was when it awarded 10 points instead of 25.

Wins: Vettel (2), Hamilton (1)
Podiums: Button (3), Vettel (2), Hamilton (2), Alonso (1), Webber (1)
Poles: Vettel (2), Hamilton (1)
Fastest Laps: Vettel (1), Hamilton (1), Webber (1)
Points: Hamilton (43), Button (36), Vettel (35), Alonso (24), Webber (24), etc.
KMs led: Vettel (439), Hamilton (372), Button (83), Alonso (17), Webber (6)



Button seems to go well here too

#57 Zava

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:59

35+25 = 60 not 50 :p

I think it is about the point system change from '09 to '10.;)
in other words:
Vettel 50, Button 45, Hamilton 43, Webber 34, Alonso 24

#58 McRules

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:59

What have Mclaren drivers been doing with this rocketship....

Just goes to show Vettel really takes proper advantage of a competitive car.

Mclaren did have a rocketship at the beginning of the season and they failed spectacularly to take advantage of that. The this was compounded with button not hitting his sweet spot. After which the bulls are all over them.The only consoling thing for Mclaren this seaon is the improved pit-stop(bit late though) and Lewis's form( which they wont have next season). So to sum it up, its another disappointing season for Macca fans.

#59 LiJu914

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:01

35+25 = 60 not 50 :p



25x2= 50 if i´m not mistaken....  ;)

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#60 Sinceref189

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:02

What have Mclaren drivers been doing with this rocketship....

Just goes to show Vettel really takes proper advantage of a competitive car.

:rolleyes:

#61 GX390

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:08

25x2= 50 if i´m not mistaken.... ;)


Damn :p

#62 anti

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:12

Practice 1: :: Sector times :: Lap Chart


#63 maverick69

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:20

Hamilton has always been brilliant at this track - yet I can't work out why that is, since (on the surface anyway) it's not all that different from somewhere like Bahrain, where Hamilton hasn't been quite so stellar in the past.


I think it's the street circuit nature of the last sector - he's really good at hustling the car through there.

#64 SamH123

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:26

How are Mclaren managing to dominate sector 2 (BUT 43.2, HAM 43.4, next best 43.7) with the 2nd slowest top speed in the speed trap (only RB slower)

Would this be to do with their car being great at the slow chicanes or something to do with traction/acceleration?

#65 Torsion

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:34

How are Mclaren managing to dominate sector 2 (BUT 43.2, HAM 43.4, next best 43.7) with the 2nd slowest top speed in the speed trap (only RB slower)

Would this be to do with their car being great at the slow chicanes or something to do with traction/acceleration?


Means that they pickup speed faster than the others. So even if they don't match the top speed of others (which is generally measured at the end of the straight), they spend more time at higher speeds than others. Its probably traction and gearing.



#66 Trust

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:38

Brilliant looks like another 1 stop. zzzzz

Didn't watch FP1, but if it's true then Pirelli are idiots.

#67 SamH123

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:39

Ok :up:

Maybe it means RB running more fuel. FP2 will be interesting

#68 jrg19

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:49

Red Bull didn't look as planted as usual, could even say nervous but they usually sort it out by FP3.

#69 ayali

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:53

Lewis usually goes at it from FP1 where other drivers prefer to gradually build-up their weekend.

Edited by Mandzipop, 02 November 2012 - 12:45.
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#70 Jamiednm

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:02

OTOH even the Vettel haters would say Vettel's win was a foregone conclusion after turn 1 without the tyre. ;)


Haha, you're saying a race victory is more secure after the first corner of a GP than at a significantly later stage in the race? Are you actually being serious?

#71 Jamiednm

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:04

I just stated that Lewis usually goes at it from FP1 where other drivers prefer to gradually build-up their weekend.


There is absolutely no evidence of this whatsoever. Anyway, it's not even up to the driver - the team dictate the programme in FP.

Edited by Mandzipop, 02 November 2012 - 12:45.
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#72 Coops3

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:17

Lewis usually goes at it from FP1 where other drivers prefer to gradually build-up their weekend.


I expect all the drivers push to a similar level in FP1. I think McLaren are particularly good these days at getting a decent setup straight off the bat, which gives them less scope to improve as the weekend goes on.

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#73 jstrains

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:33

Please let Lewis enjoy a fast car for a while...

#74 korzeniow

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:48

Please let Lewis enjoy a fast car for a while...


He enjoyed that for most of the season

#75 Fastcake

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:49

That awkward moment when the entire Sky team is wearing the same outfit...

#76 choyothe

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:51

Haha, you're saying a race victory is more secure after the first corner of a GP than at a significantly later stage in the race? Are you actually being serious?


Not me, his haters were and are saying that in every race in 2011 and in the last couple of races. Ask them.  ;)

Please let Lewis enjoy a fast car for a while...


Sarcasm?

#77 johnmhinds

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:59

That awkward moment when the entire Sky team is wearing the same outfit...


That awkward moment when the BBC let Jonathan Legard cover FP2 alongside John Watson...

What a dream team...

Edited by johnmhinds, 02 November 2012 - 12:59.


#78 Fastcake

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:08

I hate that chicane before the hairpin. It looks ridiculously unnatural, they should use the more flowing one half way down the straight.

#79 Trust

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:18

I hate Pirelli deciding the championship.

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#80 Obi Offiah

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:22

Camera director not realising there is action on track.

#81 Juggles

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:24

Hamilton choosing to stay out rather than having the chance to run a different setup on these tyres as suggested by his R.E.

Pays off, great lap.

Edited by Juggles, 02 November 2012 - 13:25.


#82 maverick69

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:25

Hamilton choosing to stay out rather than having the chance to run a different setup on these tyres as suggested by his R.E.

Pays off, great lap.


Hamilton putting his foot down...... quite literally......

#83 Kelateboy

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:41

Sebastian will need to find more speed/time in sector 2.

Hamilton looks extremely good on primes.

#84 Juggles

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:45

I can't help thinking this is just a brutal trolling by Red Bull...give us hope and then deliver a massive scrotum kick. I just don't see how things could have changed so drastically from the last three races. Is Abu Dhabi really so different?

#85 Absulute

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:47

Red Bull floor scraping the tarmac again.

#86 sock22

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:51

McLaren struggling on the soft tyres again

#87 jrg19

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:53

Vettel quickest.

#88 Trust

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:53

Kimi dominating the weekend so far...

#89 Juggles

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:56

Vettel really wringing it there, good stuff

#90 choyothe

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:57

Vettel vs. Lowe it seems. :cry:

#91 apoka

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:57

That looks a bit like Singapore - Hamilton/Vettel faster than the others.

Edit: It looks like Hamilton is on a longer stint, which probably means he could go faster still.

Edited by apoka, 02 November 2012 - 14:01.


#92 Anonymous

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:00

mclaren vs. red bull :up:

#93 Juggles

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:02

Vettel vs. Lowe it seems. :cry:


Absolutely, shown by Vettel being over six tenths faster than Button in Lowe's rocketship. He has talent the other drivers can only dream of. Or...

#94 choyothe

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:03

Absolutely, shown by Vettel being over six tenths faster than Button in Lowe's rocketship. He has talent the other drivers can only dream of. Or...


....I was being sarcastic.

#95 jrg19

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:05

Anyone watching the BBC hear Watson saying a team has been using oil to add more weight to the front of the car which is illegal then its getting drained back before scrutineering and the FIA have re clarified the rule?

#96 Juggles

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:07

....I was being sarcastic.


Apologies, though with your posting history you can't blame me

#97 robefc

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:11

McLaren struggling on the soft tyres again


Could Lewis look to qualify on primes? Based on current times he'd still be second...

#98 prty

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:11

A lot of liquid coming out of Webber's car tea try inside the garage. Why would there be liquid in there?

#99 engel

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:13

A lot of liquid coming out of Webber's car tea try inside the garage. Why would there be liquid in there?


dry ice gets into all sorts of bizarre places you wouldn't imagine :)

Edited by engel, 02 November 2012 - 14:13.


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#100 prty

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 14:14

dry ice gets into all sorts of bizarre places you wouldn't imagine :)


Nah they were using duct tape to try to fix it.