Does RBR have a rubber nosecone?
#1
Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:05
The evidence:
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:10
#4
Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:10
'Soft' nose tip so that the camera pods bend a bit lower, redirecting the airflow where you want?
#5
Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:13
to the right side, it basically folds down!
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:16
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:18
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:18
Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 05 November 2012 - 20:19.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:20
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:23
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:24
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:29
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:32
#14
Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:34
It looks odd but I'd like to see some equivalent footage of other teams before jumping to any conclusions.
That comment is way too rational for a forum.
#15
Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:37
Nice find!
#16
Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:41
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:45
#18
Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:50
Would be interested if anyone could dig out a picture of webbers car after the Indian GP I think? I'm sure when watching they said vettel hadn't parked properly and webber nudged him in from behind and I remember the nosecone being a mess and it struck me as odd. Would coincide with this theory of a softer nose (regardless of material used), can anyone find the image or am I just going crazy? Anyone else recall this?
I remember hearing the commentators saying something like "it's nice to get a push from your team-mate", so I know it happened but I was writing here, so wasn't watching.
#19
Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:52
I remember hearing the commentators saying something like "it's nice to get a push from your team-mate", so I know it happened but I was writing here, so wasn't watching.
Yeah that's the one, would be great if someone has a still of it from the sky broadcast, I definitely remember the nosecone being damaged afterwards
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#20
Posted 05 November 2012 - 20:58
#21
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:12
#22
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:14
I think we had this whole flexi-nose discussion last year already. The actual crash structure is just inside an outer shell that can probably be designed to flex.How would that nose shatter if they went head on into a barrier? Do they dare bring this to the next GP?
Both images by Formula None at F1Technical - from a thread about 2011's flexi wings. The second image is not fact, but just his idea of how this could work.
Also from that thread:
Edited by dau, 05 November 2012 - 21:16.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:14
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:14
#25
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:19
I still have the India post race stuff on my HD will see if I can find something.I remember hearing the commentators saying something like "it's nice to get a push from your team-mate", so I know it happened but I was writing here, so wasn't watching.
I do remember the remark about the damaged nose
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:21
#27
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:26
the good news is that you're not crazy. the bad news this is the only photo I could find of the incident:Would be interested if anyone could dig out a picture of webbers car after the Indian GP I think? I'm sure when watching they said vettel hadn't parked properly and webber nudged him in from behind and I remember the nosecone being a mess and it struck me as odd. Would coincide with this theory of a softer nose (regardless of material used), can anyone find the image or am I just going crazy? Anyone else recall this?
#28
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:33
I think we had this whole flexi-nose discussion last year already. The actual crash structure is just inside an outer shell that can probably be designed to flex.
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I'm aware of that, but this seems to be something new still.
#29
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:37
I found it, it's in Ted's scrapbook and one can vaguely see damage on the right hand side of the yellow part of the cone.the good news is that you're not crazy. the bad news this is the only photo I could find of the incident:
But it's really too dark to see anything clearly
#30
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:38
#31
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:39
the good news is that you're not crazy. the bad news this is the only photo I could find of the incident:
Thanks, I feel better for that. Although I'm sure there was an image of his damaged nose after? Look forward to the post race coverage shedding light on this.
#32
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:41
Here Ted's Notebook from India which shows the damage.
http://www.youtube.c...qe5m8lf20#t=19s
Yes, remember this being where I saw it now! Surely that can't be carbon?
#33
Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:56
Thing is, it doesn't have to be carbonYes, remember this being where I saw it now! Surely that can't be carbon?
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 21:57
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:11
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:14
#38
Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:25
Looking at the video from this weekend, and the damage to Mark's nose-cone from Ted's Notebook, it appears to me that the flexible/rubber area is not a loaded part of the main wing, it is just the front part which seems to be a non-structural section of the main wing. It appears to however certainly help the camera pods move around at high speeds.
...and also, I would think, the wing mounts....
#39
Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:27
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#40
Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:29
Looking at the video from this weekend, and the damage to Mark's nose-cone from Ted's Notebook, it appears to me that the flexible/rubber area is not a loaded part of the main wing, it is just the front part which seems to be a non-structural section of the main wing. It appears to however certainly help the camera pods move around at high speeds.
Actually I take that back. Look at the clip below, it seems that the flex in the camera pod area actually translates in to the whole main wing lowering. Could it be that they have some mechanical means of lowering the nose based on the flex in this front part of the nose? It seems to me that as soon as the Mechanic holds that down, the whole wing lowers.
#41
Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:30
obviously,... this is a movable aerodynamic device...
Worms...can...opened!
#42
Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:31
Actually I take that back. Look at the clip below, it seems that the flex in the camera pod area actually translates in to the whole main wing lowering. Could it be that they have some mechanical means of lowering the nose based on the flex in this front part of the nose? It seems to me that as soon as the Mechanic holds that down, the whole wing lowers.
No. There's no front jack on the car but there is one at the rear, so the car tips forward.
#43
Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:33
-edit - I was too slow
Edited by race addicted, 05 November 2012 - 22:34.
#44
Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:37
No. There's no front jack on the car but there is one at the rear, so the car tips forward.
Isn't that just because the rear jack man is lifting the car, Torsion?
-edit - I was too slow
Yes, you are probably correct.
Edited by Torsion, 05 November 2012 - 22:39.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 22:45
Edited by Mc_Silver, 05 November 2012 - 22:46.
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