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Heikki Kovalainen - This is the end of career?


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#251 Topsu

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 18:09

I'm getting all these Rubens-vibes from the news. Desperate.

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#252 CatInTheBag

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 18:14



I am beginning to think..., will Marussia be at risk of folding because of this. I hope not.



#253 noikeee

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 18:14

Desperate or not, it's still taking a really nice fast car and driving the wheels off it in a competitive environment. These guys are adrenaline junkies and in terms of sheer speed there's nothing like F1 even a Marussia.

I'd take the drive too even if it was 3 or 4 races only. What's he got to lose? Go race that thing, look good vs a paydriving rookie and have some fun.

#254 Myrvold

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 18:17

If only for a few races, then I'm not so sure anymore.

I mean would Heikki be willing to do that ? Just for a few races. Ridiculous.

He is not that desperate, or is he ?


Welcome to the 80's and 90's. You know, loving F1, 4 races are better than 0. Think Luizzi/Klien for Red Bull in 05. Brundle/Suzuki for Ligier in 95.

I like this. The team needs money, but rather than sticking with one that might pay, they will run an actual, good driver until they are able to get money. Like the way the team does it, like the way Kova does it.

#255 CatInTheBag

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 18:17

What's he got to lose? Go race that thing, look good vs a paydriving rookie and have some fun.



I really like this part.

#256 CatInTheBag

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 18:34



Hope it to be confirmed ASAP.

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#257 Mendel

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 19:59

Hope it to be confirmed ASAP.

http://translate.goo...Jt69RvUud63Mt_g



"MTV3 did not achieve the kind of hard for comment."

Google translates Kovalainen = the kind of hard :D

I´d rather translate something like Kovalainen wasn´t available to comment the matter to MTV3.

#258 Boxerevo

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 20:47

Desperate or not, it's still taking a really nice fast car and driving the wheels off it in a competitive environment. These guys are adrenaline junkies and in terms of sheer speed there's nothing like F1 even a Marussia.

I'd take the drive too even if it was 3 or 4 races only. What's he got to lose? Go race that thing, look good vs a paydriving rookie and have some fun.

I am with you,if he isn't giving money,why not drive some formula car around the world.

Edited by Boxerevo, 28 February 2013 - 20:48.


#259 Mendel

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 20:54

Yeah, if the alternatives are just playing golf and climbing mountains with ministers... I reckon driving Formula 1 is better than that.

Edited by Mendel, 28 February 2013 - 20:55.


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#260 r4mses

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 21:01

With a little luck - okay, a hell lot of luck and crazy weather :p - he might score a point or two.. and boom! he's back in the game. On the other hand, there's barely anything he can lose...unless he gets humiliated by his paydriver team mate.

#261 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 21:31

I'm surprised Kovalainen is being mentioned at Marussia, as he doesn't bring any funding. Why did Marussia release Glock then?

#262 Massa_f1

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 21:33

I'm surprised Kovalainen is being mentioned at Marussia, as he doesn't bring any funding. Why did Marussia release Glock then?



Kova is going to race for free. Something they could not do with Glock

#263 Wiggy

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 21:34

If Marrusia are so desperate why not call Petrov? He brings bucks, and is from the motherland.

Or even Narain...

#264 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 21:35

Kova is going to race for free. Something they could not do with Glock

Really? Why would he want to do that? He can't possibly shine in a few races at Marussia to be noticed by other teams.

#265 Massa_f1

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 21:36

Really? Why would he want to do that? He can't possibly shine in a few races at Marussia to be noticed by other teams.



Don't know. Ted just mentioned it on his notebook show on Sky

#266 Mauseri

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 22:15

Really? Why would he want to do that? He can't possibly shine in a few races at Marussia to be noticed by other teams.

Maybe he likes racing? And has personal sponsors?

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 22:50

This probably means they have given Razia sponsors till may to pay up. when they pay Razia gets the drive. if they don't pay Heiki drives until spain and then is replaced by a new driver. if Razia pays next week Heiki doesn't drive.

Edited by sennafan, 28 February 2013 - 22:51.


#268 Mauseri

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 23:10

This probably means they have given Razia sponsors till may to pay up. when they pay Razia gets the drive. if they don't pay Heiki drives until spain and then is replaced by a new driver. if Razia pays next week Heiki doesn't drive.

Why would they want Razia so badly?

To lose again for Caterham?

Edited by Mauseri, 28 February 2013 - 23:11.


#269 sennafan

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 23:27

Why would they want Razia so badly?

To lose again for Caterham?


1 because he offerd the most money (probably why there are problems now)

Edited by sennafan, 28 February 2013 - 23:28.


#270 Vesuvius

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:19

Kova is going to race for free. Something they could not do with Glock


MTV3 guessed McLaren would pay Heikki's salary, he would be their reserve driver and at the same time drive for Marussia.McLaren has technical relationship with Marussia and Withmarsh has tried to help get seat for Heikki.

Edited by Vesuvius, 01 March 2013 - 03:20.


#271 proviz

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 06:57

You never know. Keke Rosberg stayed at Fittipaldi in 1981 when there were no other options - and the team barely qualified all season. Yet in 1982 he was world champ. Others like Stefan Johansson and Patrick Tambay accepted no-hope drives just to be there, and ended up at Ferrari.


There is simply no comparison. In 1981 Keke was still trying to get a decent break in F1, so hanging around made sense for him. Kovalainen, on the other hand, has already had his chances and is only making himself look pathetic.
Also, based on its 1980 level Fittipaldi was nowhere near as hopeless as Caterham or Marussia are now. This same goes for all the lesser teams that Tambay and Johansson drove for. Even Theodore was, relatively speaking, in a completely different league to today's Caterham or Marussia.
What saddens me about all this is that such desperate dependence on F1 is waste of a perfectly good racing driver. If Heikki could focus on his career rather than just on "being in F1", in a few years' time he could easily be a Le Mans winner, WEC champion, Indycar winner, or something else that will actually register in history books. Just counting F1 starts doesn't do that.



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 13:41

now Bianchi is rumoured to test Marussia tomorrow.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 13:55

There is simply no comparison. In 1981 Keke was still trying to get a decent break in F1, so hanging around made sense for him. Kovalainen, on the other hand, has already had his chances and is only making himself look pathetic.

It's probably more pathetic that F1 has grown so expensive that a proven GP winner who has monstered his team-mates in recent years is grovelling around for a ride in competition with Karthislowone.

Also, based on its 1980 level Fittipaldi was nowhere near as hopeless as Caterham or Marussia are now.

Based on its 1981 level Fittipaldi was exponentially more hopeless. Caterham and Marussia had 100% qualifying records last year. In the last seven races in 1981 Fittipaldi had 10 failures to qualify and one race where they didn't turn up because they'd run out of engines.

In recent history an F1 reject could wash up in Group C or Indycar and work a passage back in. That's next to impossible these days. F1 is so of its own world that if you want to make it somewhere you have to pretty much stay in. Kova is young enough to get a second bite at the cherry.

#274 proviz

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 14:19

It's probably more pathetic that F1 has grown so expensive that a proven GP winner who has monstered his team-mates in recent years is grovelling around for a ride in competition with Karthislowone.


Based on its 1981 level Fittipaldi was exponentially more hopeless. Caterham and Marussia had 100% qualifying records last year. In the last seven races in 1981 Fittipaldi had 10 failures to qualify and one race where they didn't turn up because they'd run out of engines.

In recent history an F1 reject could wash up in Group C or Indycar and work a passage back in. That's next to impossible these days. F1 is so of its own world that if you want to make it somewhere you have to pretty much stay in. Kova is young enough to get a second bite at the cherry.


Keke made his decision to stay with Fittipaldi based on the team's 1980 form.
I'm not suggesting Kovalainen should necessarily even think of getting back to F1. The main target for any racing driver must be to actually achieve something. For someone who's been on the podium just staying in the paddock is not any kind of achievement. And there's no way he'll be able to prove anything to the big teams in F1 by driving a Caterham or Marussia.



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 14:19

It's probably more pathetic that F1 has grown so expensive that a proven GP winner who has monstered his team-mates in recent years is grovelling around for a ride in competition with Karthislowone.


Based on its 1981 level Fittipaldi was exponentially more hopeless. Caterham and Marussia had 100% qualifying records last year. In the last seven races in 1981 Fittipaldi had 10 failures to qualify and one race where they didn't turn up because they'd run out of engines.

In recent history an F1 reject could wash up in Group C or Indycar and work a passage back in. That's next to impossible these days. F1 is so of its own world that if you want to make it somewhere you have to pretty much stay in. Kova is young enough to get a second bite at the cherry.


Keke made his decision to stay with Fittipaldi based on the team's 1980 form.
I'm not suggesting Kovalainen should necessarily even think of getting back to F1. The main target for any racing driver must be to actually achieve something. For someone who's been on the podium just staying in the paddock is not any kind of achievement. And there's no way he'll be able to prove anything to the big teams in F1 by driving a Caterham or Marussia.



#276 Vesuvius

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 14:46

Heikki Kulta claims Kovalainen has signed 4 race deal with Marussia and will test sunday

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 14:55

I'm surprised Kovalainen is being mentioned at Marussia, as he doesn't bring any funding. Why did Marussia release Glock then?

Now that the Caterham looks so bad Marussia has a very good chance of taking 10th in the WCC. That is worth at least USD 10 millions. They do, however, need a safe pair of hands to bring the car home consitently. In that regard Kovalainen might be a lot better choice than a rookie bringing a few millions. But what about Petrov? He's was on par with Kovalainen in Caterham, he brings money and he's Russian - which would be good in a Russian owned team with the RussianGP coming up next year.


#278 skywing

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 14:56

Heikki Kovalainen ‏@H_Kovalainen
I see some false reports out so let's make a correction on 2 points - I'm still an IMG client and we haven't signed anything with anyone.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 15:01

Heikki Kovalainen ‏@H_Kovalainen
I see some false reports out so let's make a correction on 2 points - I'm still an IMG client and we haven't signed anything with anyone.


There's still time Heikki :)

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#280 Vesuvius

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 15:07

he should have departed IMG, they are the reason why Heikki has no contract in the first place.

#281 SpeedRacer`

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 18:15

Looks like his goose is cooked now?

#282 Vesuvius

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 18:19

Yup it's :)

#283 CatInTheBag

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 18:25



Looks like its over.

Caterham has talked about giving him a role in the team, though.




#284 eronrules

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 18:26

well, heikki was vocal about not joining any team on the merit of sponsors, and certainly not joining a team below the grade of caterham. but what else is left for him then??? does he too have a vineyard like trulli???

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 18:39

well, heikki was vocal about not joining any team on the merit of sponsors, and certainly not joining a team below the grade of caterham. but what else is left for him then??? does he too have a vineyard like trulli???


Nah no vineyard, he will maybe quit racing and start family and normal life.

#286 Absulute

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:38

I think it's silly if he doesn't want to race in another series.

I think he'd have fun in DTM or WEC.

#287 Alolnso

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:44

Let him have a go at NASCAR. I'm sure there are a few teams that would let him race on a road course.

#288 TT6

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:16

A comeback at the Caterham - as a reserve driver. Hope he gets paid...

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/106819

Edited by TT6, 17 April 2013 - 08:18.


#289 Beamer

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:32

So who's gonna get the boot then? Pic or VanderGarde?

#290 David1976

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:33

It is outrageous in my opinion that Heikki does not have a decent drive this year.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:39

So who's gonna get the boot then? Pic or VanderGarde?

One with thinnest wallet I suppose

Edited by Baddoer, 17 April 2013 - 08:39.


#292 Oho

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:40

Quite a vote on non confidence toward race drivers this is.

#293 Gintonious

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:40

Lets see how much he puts them to shame when he returns.

I'm expecting a lot.

#294 The Kanisteri

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 10:07

Good move from Heikki. He really get foot between door and doorframe like those pesky jehova witnesses. Playing around even as test driver keeps teams noticing him and maybe Red Bull replaces Sebastian Vettel with him! Imagine, Mark Webber and Heikki Kovalainen! You heard it first here! ;)

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 13:07

Good move from Heikki. He really get foot between door and doorframe like those pesky jehova witnesses. Playing around even as test driver keeps teams noticing him and maybe Red Bull replaces Sebastian Vettel with him! Imagine, Mark Webber and Heikki Kovalainen! You heard it first here! ;)


I'm still hoping for finnish lotus: Kimi & Heikki

#296 BoschKurve

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 13:12

I'm still hoping for finnish lotus: Kimi & Heikki


Heikki would have been a good #2 choice next to Kimi I feel.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 13:17

One with thinnest wallet I suppose


So U R saying the team is going to pressure two drivers to pay more for less drive?

#298 charly0418

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 13:37

If Van der Garde doesnt beat Chilton in Bahrain and Barcelona he's gonna get the boot

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:47

Heikki would have been a good #2 choice next to Kimi I feel.

No, he had his chance proving himself in the McL but failed. Haven't impressed in the other teams either.
Replacing Gro for Heikki wouldn't be any better, possibly improved consistency but that's all imho.
Lotus need a future star that learns from Kimi collecting good points to the team.

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#300 charly0418

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 18:16

No, he had his chance proving himself in the McL but failed. Haven't impressed in the other teams either.
Replacing Gro for Heikki wouldn't be any better, possibly improved consistency but that's all imho.
Lotus need a future star that learns from Kimi collecting good points to the team.


Lotus is going to need a new lead driver once Kimi goes to Red Bull. I'm guessing the Hulk, would be awesome