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2013 - MotoGP, WSB, Moto2, WSP, AMA, BSB


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#1 Tarzaan

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:42

So, the seasons*** are over, let's get ready to the next one!


2013 World Superbikegrid thus far:


BMW Italia Motorrad
Marco Melandri
Chaz Davies

Kawasaki Racing
Tom Sykes
Loris Baz

PATA Honda
Jonathan Rea
Leon Haslam

FIXI Crescent Suzuki
Leon Camier
Jules Cluzel

Red Devils Roma Aprilia
Michel Fabrizio

Alstare Ducati 1199 Panigale
Carlos Checa
Ayrton Badovini

Aprilia Racing
Eugene Laverty
TBA (Sylvain Guintoli?)

+

Pedercini Kaeasaki
TBA (Simone Grotzkyj?)
TBA (Leandro Mercado or Alexander Lundh?)

MR Team Ducati
Max Neukirchner


more info:

http://www.crash.net...ad_of_test.html


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2013 Moto GP


Yamaha Factory Racing
Jorge Lorenzo
Valentino Rossi

Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Cal Crutchlow
Bradley Smith


Repsol Honda Team
Marc Márquez
Dani Pedrosa

Gresini Racing
Álvaro Bautista

LCR Honda
Stefan Bradl


Ducati Team
Andrea Dovizioso
Nicky Hayden

Pramac Racing Team
Andrea Iannone
Ben Spies


Claiming Rule Teams (CRT) entries

Cardion AB Motoracing
Karel Abraham

Power Electronics Aspar
Randy de Puniet
Aleix Espargaró

Avintia Blusens
Hiroshi Aoyama
Héctor Barberá

Forward Racing
Colin Edwards
Claudio Corti

Ioda-Suter-BMW
TBA (Roberto Rolfo?)

Paul Bird Motorsport
TBA (Yoni Hernandez?)
TBA (Shane Byrne?)

http://www.crash.net...er_line-up.html

http://en.wikipedia....e_racing_season



***previous thread:

http://forums.autosp...w...&start=2320

Edited by Tarzaan, 15 November 2012 - 14:48.


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#2 Atreiu

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:52

Marquez will be big, I predict/wildguess his first win will come at Aragon.

At least I hope so.

#3 hotstickyslick

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 13:33

I'm going to be bold and predict that Rossi will be champion and that Marquez will NOT win a race.

#4 montoyasminion

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 14:06

I think Marquez will for sure win a race.. and I think his season will closely mirror Jorge's rookie year in 2008. Lots of speed, lots of crashes.

#5 Tarzaan

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 18:09

Valencia MotoGP test times - Tuesday (Final)

http://www.crash.net...sday_final.html


Repsol Honda planning 'major revamp' for 2013 livery

http://www.crash.net...013_livery.html

Edited by Tarzaan, 13 November 2012 - 18:20.


#6 Disgrace

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 18:46

Repsol Honda planning 'major revamp' for 2013 livery


I wonder if they're going to start promoting their "Winfield brand"...

#7 Atreiu

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 21:32

What is that?

#8 GSiebert

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 21:35

Repsol Honda planning 'major revamp' for 2013 livery

To make room for Marquez' sponsor maybe ?

#9 WatchingF1since4yearsold

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 22:03

Rossi back at Yamaha and Crutchlow/Smith at Tech 3 should be great :)

#10 Tonka

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 22:27

I can't see Bradders (argh) doing anything special next year. In fact I think he'll struggle to keep his seat.

Marques will be up there. Jonathan Rea never had problems and was soon running around in the top 10 - Marques is a much better rider than Rea. Don't forget, all the electronics are there to make racing easier - not harder.





#11 Rob

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 22:37

I can't see Bradders (argh) doing anything special next year. In fact I think he'll struggle to keep his seat.

Tech 3's Moto2 bike is essentially the same as it was in 2010. Bradley was getting podiums on it last year and he was going about half a second quicker this year.

Statistically, Bradley Smith is the most successful British rider since Barry Sheene.

#12 Chubby_Deuce

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:37

Statistically, Bradley Smith is the most successful British rider since Barry Sheene.


Sad.

#13 Risil

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:43

You can do a lot with statistics.

Edited by Risil, 14 November 2012 - 01:43.


#14 Nova

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:21

Marquez will be big, I predict/wildguess his first win will come at Aragon.

At least I hope so.



It doesn't seem to me that it's all that easy to be a rookie in motoGP anymore. I don't doubt Marquez potential, but doubt that he will win a race in 2013. Pedrosa, Rossi and Lorenzo will divide the wins between them. It's my "guess/prediction" anyway.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:51

It doesn't seem to me that it's all that easy to be a rookie in motoGP anymore. I don't doubt Marquez potential, but doubt that he will win a race in 2013. Pedrosa, Rossi and Lorenzo will divide the wins between them. It's my "guess/prediction" anyway.

The tyres will be the biggest factor for Marquez. If he can cope with them straight away, then the podium will beckon early season, IMO.
Love or hate the little sod, you have to admit the kid's something special.

#16 BigCHrome

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:06

Marques will be up there. Jonathan Rea never had problems and was soon running around in the top 10 - Marques is a much better rider than Rea. Don't forget, all the electronics are there to make racing easier - not harder.


Top 10 out of 12 prototypes isn't exactly a big achievement.

Electronics are there to make the bike faster, not to make it easier to ride.

Don't forget that the expectations are pretty high for any factory rider, he needs to be beating the customer Yamahas and Hondas almost always, and at least one factory bike on at least a few occasions to have a successful season.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:19

Tech 3's Moto2 bike is essentially the same as it was in 2010. Bradley was getting podiums on it last year and he was going about half a second quicker this year.

Statistically, Bradley Smith is the most successful British rider since Barry Sheene.


I still would have Scott Redding for his more combative style also, it's only since getting more aggressive that Danny Kent has been getting better results in Moto3. Smith always seems to go backwards.

However, having said that, both Moto2 and Moto3 have a lot closer racing and argy bargy than MotoGP and so perhaps this will suit Bradley better ?? He's not slow when he has a bit of space. We shall see.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:06

I'd have Scott over Bradley every time, but as you say, Andy, there's less elbows out racing in the top class so you never know how he'll stack up.

It's been a pleasure to see Danny Kent's improvement during this season. For me he was one of the riders who struggled to adapt to the Moto3 bikes, but in the latter half of the season he's come on a ton.

It's going to be an interesting 2013 for fans of the Britpack.

#19 Atreiu

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:33

I'd rather cut Smith some slack, he hasn't even raced yet in MotoGP. Who knows?

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#20 Rob

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:40

It's been a pleasure to see Danny Kent's improvement during this season. For me he was one of the riders who struggled to adapt to the Moto3 bikes, but in the latter half of the season he's come on a ton.

I think Danny Kent is the one to watch out of all the Brits in the three classes. If I had to put money on one as a future champion, it would be him.

#21 GSiebert

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 13:05

Well its raining at Valencia and Aragon ..

#22 GSiebert

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 13:08

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#23 kosmic33

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 14:33

I think Danny Kent is the one to watch out of all the Brits in the three classes. If I had to put money on one as a future champion, it would be him.

Yeah, and he had 2 very impressive wins to finish off the year.
And one of the saves of the century at Assen :eek:

#24 monza2001

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 15:12

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Marquez does 6 laps, and is already within 2 secs of Pedrosa, and 0.4 of Bradl. He'll be quick.

#25 Andy35

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 15:37

David Emmett ‏@motomatters

Marquez does 6 laps, and is already within 2 secs of Pedrosa, and 0.4 of Bradl. He'll be quick.


Is this the caption thread ?

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"We'd like another bridesmaid dress please, yes, size extra small"

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Andy

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#26 bigarthurisgod

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 16:49

:rotfl: :up:

#27 Tonka

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 17:09

David Emmett ‏@motomatters

Marquez does 6 laps, and is already within 2 secs of Pedrosa, and 0.4 of Bradl. He'll be quick.



Marques got it down to a second slower

http://www.bikesport...amp;newsid=8417

He's pretty much answered all the questions about his ability after the first few hours on the bike.

Stoner - who he?



#28 Risil

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 17:18

Iannone's fastest lap on the satellite Ducati was only half a second behind Marquez. Think we're going to have an interesting year.

#29 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 17:20

Bradl signs a 2 year deal with LCR. Gets factory support for 2014

#30 BMW4life

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:27

It doesn't seem to me that it's all that easy to be a rookie in motoGP anymore. I don't doubt Marquez potential, but doubt that he will win a race in 2013. Pedrosa, Rossi and Lorenzo will divide the wins between them. It's my "guess/prediction" anyway.


If you're good enough, you can win multiples races on the best bike as a rookie. Rossi, Pedrosa and Lorenzo showed it's possible. Pedrosa won't win them all, so Marquez will win multiple races next year.... Book it!! :smoking:

#31 Tarzaan

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:40

WSBK: Lundh, Grotzkyj to Pedercini Kawasaki for 2013?

http://www.crash.net...i_for_2013.html

I thought it's still official.


***
WSS: Antonelli in Go Eleven Kawasaki switch

http://www.crash.net...aki_switch.html



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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:09

Iannone's fastest lap on the satellite Ducati was only half a second behind Marquez. Think we're going to have an interesting year.

But the guy had already tested the Ducati several times ;)

#33 GSiebert

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 18:42

Marquez' start at Valencia : http://www.dailymoti...12#.UKU684fbroY

:lol:

Edited by GSiebert, 15 November 2012 - 18:57.


#34 Risil

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 19:20

But the guy had already tested the Ducati several times ;)


I'd forgotten that. Still quite optimistic though.

#35 Nova

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:28

If you're good enough, you can win multiples races on the best bike as a rookie. Rossi, Pedrosa and Lorenzo showed it's possible. Pedrosa won't win them all, so Marquez will win multiple races next year.... Book it!! :smoking:


It's been a while since Rossi and Lorenzo had their debut. Who have done it lately? Now you have to enter with a different set of bikes, and you are up against riders like Rossi, Lorenzo and Pedrosa. I'd go with rostrums for MM, not wins, the first season.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:34

Randy de Puniet will likely have a second job in 2013 as Suzuki's test rider for their new 1000cc prototype. Presumably he's hoping for a ride in 2014 when they return. Fingers crossed, I'd love to see RdP back on a prototype.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:42

RdP was often quicker than Espargaro in quali this year, but the spaniard beat him fair and square in races. I think everybody, including RdP himself, thought he would trash the CRT field this year (remember him saying "I'm a second faster than any other CRT rider" at Jerez during winter testing) and this haven't been the case. So I don't think he deserves a prototype more than anybody else. Maybe he wasn't very motivated by the CRT challenge but still.

Edited by GSiebert, 16 November 2012 - 10:44.


#38 Bartel

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:04

Espargaro deserves the prototype more than RDP, I like Randy, but he makes far too many mistakes. Id rather Espargaro get on a prototype than Randy.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:18

RdP was often quicker than Espargaro in quali this year, but the spaniard beat him fair and square in races. I think everybody, including RdP himself, thought he would trash the CRT field this year (remember him saying "I'm a second faster than any other CRT rider" at Jerez during winter testing) and this haven't been the case. So I don't think he deserves a prototype more than anybody else. Maybe he wasn't very motivated by the CRT challenge but still.

I don't suggest that he's the most deserving of a prototype ride, but I'd still like to see him on one. Maybe Suzuki could take both of them? Even better - make Aspar the works team.

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#40 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 13:08

He isn't racing the prototype he is developing it, comparing RdP's and Espargaro's experience on prototypes it's fairly obvious why RdP was chosen

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 13:20

He isn't racing the prototype he is developing it, comparing RdP's and Espargaro's experience on prototypes it's fairly obvious why RdP was chosen

Yup, but clearly RdP is thinking of 2014.

#42 Tarzaan

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 13:59

WSBK » Davies upbeat after dry track time on BMW
http://www.crash.net...ime_on_bmw.html

WSBK » Frustrating start for Honda signing Haslam
http://www.crash.net...ing_haslam.html

WSBK » Poor weather fails to dampen Sykes spirits
http://www.crash.net...es_spirits.html

WSBK » Rea rues lack of track time at Aragon test
http://www.crash.net...ragon_test.html




#43 Bartel

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 14:30

He isn't racing the prototype he is developing it, comparing RdP's and Espargaro's experience on prototypes it's fairly obvious why RdP was chosen

We aren't talking about testing the bike were talking about possibly racing it in '14

#44 GSiebert

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 14:45

WSBK » Davies upbeat after dry track time on BMW
http://www.crash.net...ime_on_bmw.html

WSBK » Frustrating start for Honda signing Haslam
http://www.crash.net...ing_haslam.html

WSBK » Poor weather fails to dampen Sykes spirits
http://www.crash.net...es_spirits.html

WSBK » Rea rues lack of track time at Aragon test
http://www.crash.net...ragon_test.html


I also read that the Aprilia and the BMW doesn't seem to like the new 17in tyres very much, unlike the Kawasaki.

#45 Risil

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:18

Anyone watching practice in Austin? Looks like it'll be fabulous for motorcycles, except for the 3 long-straight-to-hairpins which look fully as bad as the terrible WSBK one at the bottom of the straight at Aragon. Shame they couldn't work out something a bit more open and constant radius-y.

#46 Tarzaan

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 16:25


WSBK » Effenbert Liberty set to reveal 2013 WSBK plans?
http://www.crash.net...wsbk_plans.html


WSBK » Max Neukirchner on comeback trail
http://www.crash.net...back_trail.html

#47 Atreiu

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 16:31

Nice read
http://cmgonline.com...a-motor-europe/

#48 GSiebert

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 16:46

About the RC213 : "The bike will be produced in just enough numbers to achieve World Superbike homologation" :smoking:

#49 Tarzaan

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:59

WSBK » Cluzel meets Crescent

http://www.crash.net...s_crescent.html

#50 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 18:07

Marc VDS miss out on Maverick Vinales
http://www.motorcycl...c-vds-contract/
He has landed a plum ride for next year