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#101 Massa_f1

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:32

Vettel just destroyed the entire grid with that lap.

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#102 Pingu Pi

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:32

Think Vettel would quite like to be the person who holds the fastest lap of all time on this circuit, we won't see a faster lap next year, and not under the next regs. Could very well sit there for the tracks life span.

#103 oligc94

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:33

It's just too easy for him. How I would love to see Hamilton in that Red Bull... :(

#104 Tardis40

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:33

Was this actually a clean session? No incidents, no yellows?





#105 toroRosso

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:33

Vettel fighting backmarkers at this point

#106 Sinceref189

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:33

WTF were redbull on inters

#107 Pingu Pi

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:34

Remember he was on Inters, inters might just be a much better compound for this track haha

#108 scandyman

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:34

WTF were redbull on inters

RedBull had GREEN on the tires

#109 Realyn

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:34

WTF were redbull on inters

Was paint from the track ...

#110 Carlo's

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:34

Was Red Bull on inters?

#111 fatd

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:34

yep...but I wonder if its possible that Vettel used a 2nd set of hards while LH did not.


Yeah I think that might be the case..

#112 Realyn

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:35

Was Red Bull on inters?

Are you guys serious asking that?

#113 pedrorito

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:35

It's just too easy for him. How I would love to see Hamilton in that Red Bull... :(


Is only because of Red Bull? Not so easy for Webber...

#114 ayali

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:35

Wow Vettel what a lap

#115 Francesc

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:35

LOL :rotfl: :rotfl: On inters.

It was the flow vis.

#116 toroRosso

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:36

Is only because of Red Bull? Not so easy for Webber...


I wouldn't go there...for anyones sake

#117 Wingcommander

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:36

Was this actually a clean session? No incidents, no yellows?


Tarmac run-off areas... it would be quite something to actually hit a barrier there.

#118 Rentta

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:37




Was paint from the track ...


How it can be on the side of the tires ?

Edited by Rentta, 16 November 2012 - 16:37.


#119 Pingu Pi

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:37

Wasn't really looking at the screen, just saw a green stripe. Oh well.

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#120 Vesuvius

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:38

vettel used new set of hards so his pace compared to others is not fully comparable.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:38

Was this actually a clean session? No incidents, no yellows?

No yellows? There were a lot of yellows

#122 Kelateboy

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:38

Was this actually a clean session? No incidents, no yellows?

I noticed at least 1 brief yellow in that practice session when Hulkenberg spun off.

#123 Sukhoi

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:40

Webber was surley on inters.. i saw tyre tread , clear and nice V shape ( when his car started to leak in a pitlane )

Edited by Sukhoi, 16 November 2012 - 16:41.


#124 SpaMaster

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:40

Red Bull was practicing pit-stops. So they changed it to inters during the stop.


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:41

It was flow-vis then they bolted inters before pushing the car into the garage..

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devastating lap there at the end by Vettel... I'm sure everyone else have more pace in store, but clearly to put out that lap on FP1 is a big statement.

#126 jrg19

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:41

Vettel looking very quick at the end.

#127 Afterburner

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:42

1. Sebastian Vettel 1:38.125
2. Lewis Hamilton 1:39.543 (-1.418)

Are you kidding me? :eek:

#128 choyothe

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:43

Vettel 2.5 ahead of Webber, dude's even better than I thought.



:p

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:44

Are you kidding me? :eek:


Think Seb went out on a fresh set of hards towards the end. Not sure though, need to confirm.

Edited by olliek88, 16 November 2012 - 16:45.


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:44

No yellows? There were a lot of yellows


Must have been short ones. I was flipping it on and off and only saw green.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:46

Think Seb went out on a fresh set of hards towards the end. Not sure though, need to confirm.


Be nice to know when drivers used their tyres.

General question, are they allowed to carry over a unused set into FP2 or was the extra set for FP1 only?

Edited by jrg19, 16 November 2012 - 16:47.


#132 sailor

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:47

Vettel 2.5 ahead of Webber, dude's even better than I thought.



:p


He is crazy fast ... He is sniffing the title this race itself and wants to lap Alonso when doing it !!

Seriously 1.5 s up on 2nd is crazy - even if you take out half a sec as usual suspects assign to RB8 - he is 1 sec + faster than Lew and Nando and 2.5 on Webber !

#133 olliek88

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:47

FP1 only i think. Again, not sure! (and not much use! :D :confused: )

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:48

Think Seb went out on a fresh set of hards towards the end. Not sure though, need to confirm.


he was on a set of green tyres, 100% sure. But what does that mean? Can't be inters, did Pirelli mark the addidional set of tyres with a green flag?

#135 SamH123

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:48

Was that some thought of glory run at the end from Vettel on low fuel?
It's far more likely that he just was holding back and learning the track/testing to start with but I've never seen a FP go quite like that

#136 Slowinfastout

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:48

The track is very cool, it was noted in the broadcast but I agree negotiating lapped traffic through sector 1 could get interesting.. there's just no spot to get out of the way at all.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:49

Must have been short ones. I was flipping it on and off and only saw green.

yes, mostly, they were very short because of the run-off areas.
I was following the session with the tracking system, and each time there is a yellow, the sector flashes. It's much more easy to notice than on TV or the standard live timing. Each time a driver spun there was a yellow flag, and also with some of the offs.

#138 Kelateboy

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:50

Be nice to know when drivers used their tyres.

General question, are they allowed to carry over a unused set into FP2 or was the extra set for FP1 only?

I would think that the extra set of hards is only for FP1, and the teams would have to return both sets of hards at the end of FP1. For FP2, they have 1 fresh set of hards and 1 fresh set of mediums, so I don't see any reason to carry the extra set from FP1 to FP2.

But of course, I could be wrong....

#139 Vesuvius

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:51

seriously do people think we see true pace on fp1?
havent u watched formula 1 for past twenty years at all or don't u people just no anything about f1. yes Vettel may be fastest this weekend but not by 1,4 seconds. he simply had fresh tyres at the end. Hamilton had great pace with one tyreset. Lotus focused on new parts with heavier fuel load so times are closer then we think.

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#140 Slowinfastout

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:54

It's still unusual for someone to go that fast compared to everyone else in FP1.

Call it mind games or whatever you want but I'm sure some guys are scratching their heads because that might be what the computer says is their optimal qualy pace..

#141 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:56

I don't know which is more overrated, the thrill of the hill or Vettel's time.

#142 Kelateboy

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:56

The track temperature was 23C at the end of FP1. Qualifying and race will be run in the afternoon when the track temperature should be a bit higher.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:56

seriously do people think we see true pace on fp1?
havent u watched formula 1 for past twenty years at all or don't u people just no anything about f1. yes Vettel may be fastest this weekend but not by 1,4 seconds. he simply had fresh tyres at the end. Hamilton had great pace with one tyreset. Lotus focused on new parts with heavier fuel load so times are closer then we think.


I agree the gap could be down to anything really, 1.4s is just ridiculous. But still, such a huge gap is quite a rare sight even in FP1 :p

#144 Kelateboy

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 16:58

It's still unusual for someone to go that fast compared to everyone else in FP1.

Call it mind games or whatever you want but I'm sure some guys are scratching their heads because that might be what the computer says is their optimal qualy pace..

Yup, very unusual to have such a big gap especially 2.525s gap to his teammate. But it is still FP1.

If the gap remains in FP3, then it is time for concerns from the other teams and Alonso, specifically.

#145 Massa

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 17:01

Oh dear. Vettel will never be one second faster than anybody. I think he made his run with a new set of tyres and thats all.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 17:02

He is crazy fast ... He is sniffing the title this race itself and wants to lap Alonso when doing it !!

Seriously 1.5 s up on 2nd is crazy - even if you take out half a sec as usual suspects assign to RB8 - he is 1 sec + faster than Lew and Nando and 2.5 on Webber !


:lol:

What was he then doing for 99% of the time when he languished down in 10th and 12th?

#147 goingthedistance

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 17:03

Weird that Vettel is in the 1:38s already, I thought that was the predicted quali range?

#148 SamH123

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 17:04

Yeah good point about the new tires
If Ham had done all 28 laps on 1 set of hard tires it would explain the time differential

#149 jrg19

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 17:05

Wasn't that going to be the average lap time?

#150 Mark Bennett

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 17:05

Was this actually a clean session? No incidents, no yellows?


There were yellows, but only whilst people spun/left the track and rejoined.