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#451 gm914

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:30

Good move for RAB. Hopefully with Bowman (bit of a wheelman as i understand) they can find some solid sponsorship and forget about parting out their schedule to chickenboys, commentators and xtreme dudes.

Their Truck outfit has been disbanded though, correct?



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#452 Deluxx

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:39

Anyone else disappointed they dropped the Nationwide race in Montreal? Was one of the best NW races of the season last year T_T

#453 Dilla

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:58

The promoter wanted a future Cup race (among other things); NASCAR didn't really bite.

#454 Victor_RO

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 14:08

Danica aims for Daytona 500 pole. If ever there was a pointless press release, here's one. :lol:

#455 gm914

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 15:13

Anyone else disappointed they dropped the Nationwide race in Montreal? Was one of the best NW races of the season last year T_T


Totally pissed off. Was planning to go up there. I already stocked up on supplies. :well:

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 15:15

Countdown continues:

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#457 SonnyViceR

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 15:18

Danica aims for Daytona 500 pole. If ever there was a pointless press release, here's one. :lol:


True, but if there ever was a place where she wasn't totally useless or just plain mediocre, it's the superspeedways.

#458 Deluxx

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 15:18

Totally pissed off. Was planning to go up there. I already stocked up on supplies. :well:


LMAO

#459 Magoo

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 16:32

Led 33 laps in his Grand National career. (See what I did there?) Three convertible series wins, the Dave Rezendes of his era.


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#460 kosmic33

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 16:39

Three convertible series wins, the Dave Rezendes of his era.

You gotta wonder what the guy who decided to introduce a convertable series was smoking..... :smoking:

#461 Magoo

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 17:19

You gotta wonder what the guy who decided to introduce a convertable series was smoking..... :smoking:



The series was quite popular for a time. The obvious parallel to today is the truck series -- race the vehicles that the fans own or aspire to, and in the South convertibles were a big part of the new car market due to the warmer weather.

The convertible series was a real hit on the small tracks because the fans could see the drivers so well. Many teams had convertible convertibles -- cars with a removable hardtop that could run in both divisions. Also served as a sort of B division for the Grand National--cut the top off last year's GN car and run it as a ragtop. Changing times and the addition of more big tracks, especially Daytona (big aero drag) put them out of business.

#462 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 17:32

What was the fatality rate per-rollover.

#463 Jim Thurman

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 17:41

You gotta wonder what the guy who decided to introduce a convertable series was smoking..... :smoking:

Why? Plus, in the convertibles, it was much easier to see the driver working away in the car (as Magoo wrote :up:). Which is why many non-NASCAR short tracks allowed convertibles in the 60's & 70's.

The convertibles were quite popular in the Midwest, where they developed a strong foothold with an association known as SAFE (yes, I know). SAFE merged with NASCAR and the NASCAR Convertible Division was born. Look at it as one of NASCAR's first expansions. They accomplished two things, put down a potential threat and gained a presence in the Midwest.

Edited by Jim Thurman, 22 January 2013 - 17:48.


#464 Victor_RO

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 17:41

What was the fatality rate per-rollover.


65536%? :cat: :lol:

#465 Jim Thurman

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 17:41

What was the fatality rate per-rollover.

There was just one Convertible Division fatality.

EDIT: You know guys, the photo misleads...they had a square roll bar mounted behind the driver when racing. In fact, the roll bar probably was the same as in the GN Division of the time.

Edited by Jim Thurman, 22 January 2013 - 17:44.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 20:00

65536%? :cat: :lol:


I'm betting on 69,105%, myself...

Edited by Risil, 22 January 2013 - 20:00.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 00:15

Anyone else disappointed they dropped the Nationwide race in Montreal? Was one of the best NW races of the season last year T_T

I wouldn't call it that good of a race. Yes, it was on a road course, but it was a pretty lousy road course race. The last third of the race inevitably becomes a restart followed by a turn 1 crash followed by a caution, and then the cycle repeats until the race is out of laps.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 00:17

Danica aims for Daytona 500 pole. If ever there was a pointless press release, here's one. :lol:


Almost as pointless as winning the pole at Daytona.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 01:06

True, but if there ever was a place where she wasn't totally useless or just plain mediocre, it's the superspeedways.


I thought she did pretty well at Phoenix last year. *awaits flaming*

#470 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:50

She made the finish exciting.

#471 Lemnpiper

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:25

There was just one Convertible Division fatality.

EDIT: You know guys, the photo misleads...they had a square roll bar mounted behind the driver when racing. In fact, the roll bar probably was the same as in the GN Division of the time.




Jim ,

Some cars had the roll bar placed behind the windshield in front of the driver too. Sorta reversed normal positioning. I've seen photos of that set up and it seemed to be an acceptable way that NASCAR did approve of then.

Is that a roll bar mostly obscured by the windshield in that Massey picture too.?



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#472 Magoo

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:02

Ok then, for those who are curious, here is a brief historical review and large photo gallery on the NASCAR convertible era. Interesting cars, in my view anyway. Should answer the roll bar questions among others.



The Great Age of Convertible Racing | Mac's Motor City Garage.com


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#473 gm914

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 15:20

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#474 Jim Thurman

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 17:22

And Cassil's replacement at BK is...

http://www.nationals...bk-racing-seat/

#475 Jim Thurman

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 17:24

Jim ,

Some cars had the roll bar placed behind the windshield in front of the driver too. Sorta reversed normal positioning. I've seen photos of that set up and it seemed to be an acceptable way that NASCAR did approve of then.

Is that a roll bar mostly obscured by the windshield in that Massey picture too.?

Yes, I've noticed Bob Welborn's (a photo of which was since posted by Magoo :up:)

It doesn't look like they've even mounted one in Massey's car yet, which obviously led some here to assume they raced without them :)

Also, keep in mind it was only a couple of years earlier that NASCAR even required a roll bar even in GN cars.

Edited by Jim Thurman, 23 January 2013 - 17:25.


#476 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 17:38

Given NASCAR's exhaustive procedures for ensuring all safety improvements are relevant, it's not too far fetched to think they raced without them back when everything was in black & white :p

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 17:45

It doesn't look like they've even mounted one in Massey's car yet, which obviously led some here to assume they raced without them :)

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Zooming in with the iPad I think it's there. Right behind the windshield. Light colored. Easier to spot on the drivers side.

Maybe wrong.

#478 Jim Thurman

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 17:49

Given NASCAR's exhaustive procedures for ensuring all safety improvements are relevant, it's not too far fetched to think they raced without them back when everything was in black & white :p

:up: They did in GN through, I think, 1954. Much to the detriment of a few Hudson Hornet drivers.

#479 Jim Thurman

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 17:50

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Zooming in with the iPad I think it's there. Right behind the windshield. Light colored. Easier to spot on the drivers side.

Maybe wrong.

Think you might be right on that one. Well, I wasn't the only one fooled into thinking there was no roll bar there :p

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#480 Richard T

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 17:56

Former WSbR Champion AND my former mentor, swedish driver Alx Danielsson has been testing with Creation Cope the past days in their Nationwide and ARCA cars, on both oval and road course.. Hope to se more of him over there :)

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 18:04

Anybody else find it a little weird to see Goody's Headache Powders announce their sponsorship affiliation with Dale Jr?

I mean with all his concussion stuff from last year?

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 19:26

Per Jayski, Hendrick Motorsports will be running Truck for the first time in over 10 years with the #94 truck driven by 17-year-old Chase Elliott.

He will drive at both Martinsville and Iowa dates as well as Rockingham, Dover, Bristol, Mosport, and Phoenix.

Former WSbR Champion AND my former mentor, swedish driver Alx Danielsson has been testing with Creation Cope the past days in their Nationwide and ARCA cars, on both oval and road course.. Hope to se more of him over there :)

Wrong team to do it with, I don't how competitive their ARCA team is, but the NW team is severely underpowered.

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#483 gm914

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 19:33

Per Jayski, Hendrick Motorsports will be running Truck for the first time in over 10 years with the #94 truck driven by 17-year-old Chase Elliott.

He will drive at both Martinsville and Iowa dates as well as Rockingham, Dover, Bristol, Mosport, and Phoenix.

I couldn't quite figure that out. Pockrass mentions the trucks are coming from Turner?

Either way I like this kid. He was great in The Dark Knight Rises. :p

#484 Dilla

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 20:13

It'll be under the Hendrick banner, but they'll be leasing Trucks from Turner. Hendrick, of course, provides engines for Turner anyway so the truck itself is all they need.

Lol, I always said Elliott looks like Jospeh Gordon-Levitt. He also looks like Sergio Perez depending on the image.

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#485 gm914

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 20:27

Chase and Keselowski have also been seen in talks recently...

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#486 Dilla

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 21:57

The 1980's called. . .

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#487 Dilla

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 22:05

Kasey Kahne + Great Clips =

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#488 gm914

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 22:47

People of Texas: We have OFFICIALLY gone too far.

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#489 Red17

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 22:59

People of Texas: We have OFFICIALLY gone too far.

That is... erm... is there anything that doesn't sell or get a endorsement these days?

#490 Dilla

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:24

In a time teams are struggling to find single race sponsor (nevermind full-time sponsorship), Shell has extended with Penske to sponsor the #22 for 33 races each season all the way through 2018. Penske has also added Hertz to the sponsor stable. Finally, Penske says that he has talked to Ryan Newman about a return to the team, but Hornish is the first option for a third car.

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#491 Giannazzo

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:32

In a time teams are struggling to find single race sponsor (nevermind full-time sponsorship), Shell has extended with Penske to sponsor the #22 for 33 races each season all the way through 2018. Penske has also added Hertz to the sponsor stable. Finally, Penske says that he has talked to Ryan Newman about a return to the team, but Hornish is the first option for a third car.


Hope Sam will not be discarded again after making room for Logano this year. I think he deserves another shot. Talks with Newman make a lot of sense since we know that Harvick will drive for SHR next year. Unless there's suddenly money for a 4th car at SHR, Newman will be the one leaving. :wave:


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:36

Per Jayski, Hendrick Motorsports will be running Truck for the first time in over 10 years with the #94 truck driven by 17-year-old Chase Elliott.

He will drive at both Martinsville and Iowa dates as well as Rockingham, Dover, Bristol, Mosport, and Phoenix.


Good news! He's another terribly fast young man! NASCAR's got a bunch of very talented youngsters coming up, hope most of them find a good seat and have the occasion to show what they can do, but I fear someone is going to be left afoot.

Edited by Giannazzo, 24 January 2013 - 07:37.


#493 Magoo

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 14:47

Someone was asking a while back about the Nationwide Mustang with its exhaust exits at the extreme rear of the car. Now it can be told.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 15:50

What I learned today:

There are more Google Images of Jeff Burton crashing than there are of Jeff Burton racing.

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#495 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 15:54

I missed the tow truck in the first pic and figured that was a seriously impressive pit entry.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 20:14

New deal between Joe Gibbs and Kyle Busch. Kyle will compete in 25 NNS races for JGR (crap!) and 10 Truck races with KBM.
All engines will be JGR.

Yes Kyle we see you. :wave:

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#497 Red17

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 20:20

New deal between Joe Gibbs and Kyle Busch. Kyle will compete in 25 NNS races for JGR (crap!) and 10 Truck races with KBM.
All engines will be JGR.

Yes Kyle we see you. :wave:

Huh? Was Kyle Busch Racing just a front for a lease then?

#498 gm914

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 20:23

Huh? Was Kyle Busch Racing just a front for a lease then?

Here's the details.

#499 nosaj100

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 00:21

New deal between Joe Gibbs and Kyle Busch. Kyle will compete in 25 NNS races for JGR (crap!) and 10 Truck races with KBM.
All engines will be JGR.

Yes Kyle we see you. :wave:


So JGR is building engines again? I thought they switched to TRD last year. And if I read it correctly, KBM is strictly a Truck Series operation. They no longer field NNS cars (the 54 now is JGR). Right?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 00:30

Danica aims for Daytona 500 pole. If ever there was a pointless press release, here's one. :lol:



I can hear DW calling qualifying...

"Dancia takes the pole from Stenhouse!"