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#801 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 18:03

I think the bodyshells have more composite in them?

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#802 Crafty

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 19:54

Apparently Stewart ran a 2011 chassis with a new body on in the sprint.

Danica still on pole :stoned:

#803 Deluxx

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:04

Did anyone see the new camera mounted in the back of the cars?

Wicked. I love it. Tilts with the track and you can see the true angle of the cars.

#804 gm914

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:14

Yep I like it. Here's some footage on SPEED in case anyone hasn't seen it yet.

#805 lbennie

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:50

this is why i can't take nascar/indy seriously.

Danica on pole :drunk:

it's like wwf


#806 Deluxx

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:59

this is why i can't take nascar/indy seriously.

Danica on pole :drunk:

it's like wwf


I did hear something about her maybe making pole on tv somewhere and I laughed that if she got it it would be pretty funny. Then she did and I have to say a similar thought popped up in my head...

Yep I like it. Here's some footage on SPEED in case anyone hasn't seen it yet.



great link thanks!!! If anyone wants to know what i was talking about its about half way through in that video, after the cable cam

#807 montoyasminion

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:06

I dunno if any of you guys watch motogp, but the gyro cam they use is much much better. This one seemed jerky, and rigid, and almost faked by comparison. As if the crew in the tv truck were rotating the picture. The camera view wasn't smooth and floating like it does with the bikes. Just didn't look right to me, but then again, I'm used to the version motogp has used the past couple years.

#808 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:19

Yeah it needs to do the transition better to grab that banking effect. Otherwise it's more like the camera mount breaking.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 15:36

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#810 Deluxx

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 17:24

I dunno if any of you guys watch motogp, but the gyro cam they use is much much better. This one seemed jerky, and rigid, and almost faked by comparison. As if the crew in the tv truck were rotating the picture. The camera view wasn't smooth and floating like it does with the bikes. Just didn't look right to me, but then again, I'm used to the version motogp has used the past couple years.


Ya but it's better than nothing, eh? I'd rather this be mixed in there than the same old shots theyve been using since 2002

#811 Jim Thurman

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 17:48

Ya but it's better than nothing, eh? I'd rather this be mixed in there than the same old shots theyve been using since 2002

That's the idea, Fox and ESPN steal adapt ideas others have used in other venues, then claim the kudos and awards for their "stunning camera innovations"

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 18:49

this is why i can't take nascar/indy seriously.

Danica on pole :drunk:

it's like wwf


All Stewart Haas cars were in the top 5, and they're using Hendrick equipment. She was top in testing and practice 2, clearly the car setup had been perfected. Less then a tenth in it, a tailwind could probably do that.

It's cool to diss Danica though, regardless of if she actually merited the criticism, so I'll just leave you to it and laugh.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 19:52

It's cool to diss Danica though, regardless of if she actually merited the criticism, so I'll just leave you to it and laugh.

I started supporting Danica back in indycar purely because if she does well it irritates a lot of people. The haters just can't seem to figure out that any criticism of Danica putting the number ten on pole doesn't reflect very well on all the other drivers as well. If it is "all down to the car" and not the driving, it still means Danica has managed to set her car up better than all the others.



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 23:47

I started supporting Danica back in indycar purely because if she does well it irritates a lot of people. The haters just can't seem to figure out that any criticism of Danica putting the number ten on pole doesn't reflect very well on all the other drivers as well. If it is "all down to the car" and not the driving, it still means Danica has managed to set her car up better than all the others.

The problem is, back when it was truly a good-old boy show, things seemed to happen because the powers that be wanted them that way, and made sure they happened that way.
For her to be on the pole, when NASCAR is to a degree hurting, fit too well with things still being done the way people have accused them of being for decades.
I.e. if it benefits NASCAR, do what ever it takes to make it happen.


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:30

The problem is, back when it was truly a good-old boy show, things seemed to happen because the powers that be wanted them that way, and made sure they happened that way.
For her to be on the pole, when NASCAR is to a degree hurting, fit too well with things still being done the way people have accused them of being for decades.
I.e. if it benefits NASCAR, do what ever it takes to make it happen.


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#816 PaulC2K

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:40

Hey,

Looks like i completely forgot about the start of the pre-season. :(
Figured i'd take a look on the site and double check, i had a feeling a couple of days ago it must be pretty close.

I'll have to watch the weekends race tomorrow, too late now (5:30am :lol:) although googles calendar spoiled the result for me, but im sure Denny came 2nd.... right? :p
Was surprised with Danica though, i know a while back there was talk of it, but like others mentioned just above, it seemed like a laughable statement.

I guess i'll see everyone in the race thread on Thursday :up: (thats if i dont forget!!)

#817 Magoo

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:51


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#818 gm914

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 13:16

Hey Paul. Was wondering where you'd gotten to. :wave:

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 19:22

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#820 Risil

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 20:08

I liked that Number 5 Corn Flakes car in the Papyrus NASCAR game, as being 8 it was pretty much the only sponsor brand I'd heard of.

I joke. Mostly I just found it really, really funny.

Edited by Risil, 19 February 2013 - 21:56.


#821 John B

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 20:41

Hermie Sadler ran Pontiacs for at least part of the year in 2004. There were probably others but none come to mind at the moment.


Carl Long ran at least one race early in the season. The same car attempted to qualify at Texas in April with Andy Belmont but missed the show, I believe that was the last Pontiac entry.


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 21:14

Hey Paul. Was wondering where you'd gotten to. :wave:

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thats a beautiful car xD

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 00:56

Quiroga to Red Horse Racing: Three-time Mexico Series Champion, Germán Quiroga will join Red Horse Racing as the team's third driver and pilot of the #77 NET10 Wireless Toyota Tundra. The 32-year-old driver will compete for the Camping World Truck series Rookie of the Year honors. Quiroga, who has six Truck Series starts, will pair up with veteran crew chief Dan Stillman starting at the season opener at Daytona International Speedway. NET10 Wireless will serve as primary sponsor for 12 Truck Series races this year and will continue as an associate sponsor for the remaining 10 races. Additional partners for the #77 Toyota Tundra will be announced at a future date. (Red Horse Racing PR)(2-19-2013)


[Ryan] Truex to drive for Turner Scott in Daytona: Turner Scott Motorsports announced today that Ryan Truex will be behind the wheel of the #30 Chevy Silverado in the Camping World Truck Series season opener at Daytona International Speedway. The two-time consecutive K&N Pro Series East champion will pilot Turner Scott Motorsports' fourth entry in the NextEra Energy Resources 250 with sponsorship from Bass Pro Shops. Truex, who won the NKNPSE championship in 2009 and 2010, made his NCWTS debut in 2012, running two events and earning a best finish of ninth at Phoenix International Raceway. The 20-year-old Mayetta, N.J. native has two previous NASCAR starts on superspeedways, both in the Nationwide Series. Truex most recently earned an 11th-place finish at Talladega Superspeedway in May of 2012, but finished 31st after being swept up in a late-race crash at Daytona earlier that season. Truex has a total of 35 NNS starts under his belt, collecting one pole and a total of two top-five and nine top-10 finishes. (See an image on the #30 Paint Scheme page)(Turner Scott Motorsports PR)(2-18-2013)


Another Truex to make Sprint Cup debut: Ryan Truex, Martin Truex Jr's younger brother, announced on his twitter that he will make his NASCAR Sprint Cup debut at Richmond [in April], driving the #51 Phoenix Racing Chevy and could drive in some additional races.(2-18-2013)



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:53

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:45

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Were Nascar officials helping her at Road America or Montreal last year as well? Or Kansas? Or Phoenix? Or any race where she was competitive? Pole at Daytona is a non-issue anyway, Danica herself said it was car preparation. As I said, SHR and the #10 team in particular have been fast in most of the Daytona sessions to date. I don't know if they're cheating to be honest, plate tracks do throw up odd results (see JWT winning ARCA a few days ago).

Would the same viewer backlash have happened if Newman or Stewart were on pole? No. If Nascar chose Daytona qualifying as a PR stunt to make her\the event look good they failed miserably. Plate races aren't drivers tracks and more NASCAR fans seem to hate than like her at this point.

Speaking of her Indycar career, her results were on a gradual upswing until Nascar came into the picture (the first half of 2009 comes to mind in particular). I would have been more interested to see Patrick in the DW12 because it may have fit her style better than Marco, though Hinchcliffe did a very good job in the first half of 2012.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:58

Were Nascar officials helping her at Road America or Montreal last year as well? Or Kansas? Or Phoenix?



C'mon man, you need to get a tin foil hat... :cool:

Everytime Danica has the least bit of success or progress it's because the ghost of Big Bill says so.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:23

Will any of this matter when she gets shuffled back in the first 15 laps or so and eventually gets wiped out in the "big one"?

Edited by kosmic33, 20 February 2013 - 12:24.


#828 Magoo

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 13:51

Carl Long ran at least one race early in the season. The same car attempted to qualify at Texas in April with Andy Belmont but missed the show, I believe that was the last Pontiac entry.


If you are saying that was Sadler's car that Long and Belmont were driving, yes indeed. I remember taking a photo of the car at I believe it was Las Vegas, thinking to myself this might be the last Pontiac we'd see in Cup, but now I can't find the photo.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 13:55

Will any of this matter when she gets shuffled back in the first 15 laps or so and eventually gets wiped out in the "big one"?


And if she wins the race in classic Ron Bouchard//Trevor Bayne fashion, you can always say it was just dumb luck. You're bulletproof. No worries, carry on!

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 14:15

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Can you name this driver? We'll take caller number five.

#831 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 14:22

What's the rule on apostrophes when the singular ends in S

#832 Magoo

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 16:05

What's the rule on apostrophes when the singular ends in S



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#833 Andrew Hope

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 16:17

Ross' posts are usually quite lazy, aren't they?

Anyway, greetings from Vancouver. New truck has a year of Sirius so I should be able to hear the 500, even if I can't see it. First impressions of Vancouver are that the women seem much hotter than back home. Will report additional findings as they happen.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 16:41

Hope to see you in BC this year Hope.

What's the rule on apostrophes when the singular ends in S

Use an apostrophe plus -s to show the possessive form of a singular noun, even if that singular noun already ends in -s:

Dylan Thomas's poetry or John Sears's Plymouth
Jp



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#835 Magoo

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 16:48

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#836 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 17:04

I'm not convinced that apostrophe is connected to either letter.

#837 Jim Thurman

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 18:04

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Can you name this driver? We'll take caller number five.

Do I get any points for recognizing Raymond Williams' car behind?

#838 Jim Thurman

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 18:06

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Magoo, any idea where the Parnelli photo in the Olds convertible is from? Normally, that's my strength, but based on what little of the track I can see, I'm stumped.

I can't think of too many western tracks with an inner wooden fence. Or many that hosted convertibles for that matter.

Edited by Jim Thurman, 20 February 2013 - 18:08.


#839 Magoo

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 19:09

Magoo, any idea where the Parnelli photo in the Olds convertible is from? Normally, that's my strength, but based on what little of the track I can see, I'm stumped.

I can't think of too many western tracks with an inner wooden fence. Or many that hosted convertibles for that matter.


Gardena Stadium, 139th at Western. AKA Western Speedway.



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#840 Magoo

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 19:11

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Can you name this driver? We'll take caller number five.


Bonus question: When did the War of 1812 begin?

#841 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 19:21

Begin? 1770s :p

#842 Jim Thurman

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 19:41

Gardena Stadium, 139th at Western. AKA Western Speedway.
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Thanks :up: That was a thought, because I know they ran some convertible races there, but I'd never seen a shot showing an inside railing. Now I've seen two :)

It became Western near the end of its run.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 20:52

Hope to see you in BC this year Hope.

Use an apostrophe plus -s to show the possessive form of a singular noun, even if that singular noun already ends in -s:

Dylan Thomas's poetry or John Sears's Plymouth
Jp


Singular-- It is the boss's.

Plural-- It belongs to all those bosses' down there.

Edited by Bob Riebe, 20 February 2013 - 20:54.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 21:29

So this is what happens when NASCAR fans have too much time on their hands. Grammar lessons.


Over/under on Hendrick Motorsports Motors blow up the rest of the week?

I say under 3. I just hope Jeff is safe!

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 21:54

And if she wins the race in classic Ron Bouchard//Trevor Bayne fashion, you can always say it was just dumb luck. You're bulletproof. No worries, carry on!

Thats what I hate about plate tracks - Any Ron, Danica or Trevor can win!

I'll get my coat........

#846 Magoo

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 23:32

Thanks :up: That was a thought, because I know they ran some convertible races there, but I'd never seen a shot showing an inside railing. Now I've seen two :)

It became Western near the end of its run.


It's not my neighborhood and before my time, so I only know from photos, but I don't think the short wood fencing went all the way around the track, or was there for very long. In many photos I've seen there is no fence visible, or grass for that matter. If I had to guess the inside rail was only on the front stretch.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:07

Singular-- It is the boss's.

Plural-- It belongs to all those bosses' down there.

Heh
We got a lesson in those tenses from our buds from Arkansas this year

Singular - y'all
Plural - all y'all

#848 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:56

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 13:36

Three days to green flag. More facts and photos about the number 3 in NASCAR here at the LINK:


Daytona 500 Countdown: Day Minus Three | Mac's Motor City Garage.com




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Posted 21 February 2013 - 14:48

Would the same viewer backlash have happened if Newman or Stewart were on pole? No. If Nascar chose Daytona qualifying as a PR stunt to make her\the event look good they failed miserably. Plate races aren't drivers tracks and more NASCAR fans seem to hate than like her at this point.

NASCAR's target demographic for this PR stunt wouldn't be people who are already NASCAR fans.

Since when do they interview the Daytona Polewinner on mainstream news shows and networks and it leads to entire segments on <insert driver's demographic here> succeeding in sports?

If T-Stew, JPM, or Ry-New won the pole there wouldn't be headlines saying "Fat Dude Power" and vignettes on CNN about fat dudes succeeding in sports and other thin-dude dominated disciplines as feel good stories. The driver wouldn't be interviewed on CNN and stuff.

Be first woman to win pole for Daytona=one whole week of coverage and speculation and conversation.

Be first woman to win a race and they talk about it on Monday.

So in terms of bang for your Danica buck, winning pole for Daytona is about the best value you could get, PR Stunt-wise.

Edit: I'm not saying it's a PR stunt. Just saying it would be a poor one is an invalid argument.

Edited by OfficeLinebacker, 21 February 2013 - 14:51.