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#951 Lemnpiper

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 00:39

[quote name='Elissa' date='Feb 28 2013, 11:37' post='6145607']
Lol...I did see a few comments online it wasn't that great a race. It had it's moments for sure though, and the finish was exciting.

That is more of a result of the restrictor plates being used at Daytona & Talledega.
Wait til you have races from Martinvsville or Richmond to watch and you will see the amazing difference how the races are run.


I did find the adverts a distraction

Nascar is very money orientated (my opinion) and it's current business model requires loads of sponsors just to keep all involved with the sport somewhat solvent. Therefore the sponsors run loads of ads to help sell thier product.


I almost spat my tea out during the 500 when the commentator said 'Scott Speed in the lead'....I last saw him wash up in F1 years ago and thought'd he'd been swallowed up by the Earth since.

One of the "fun " aspects is seeing an underdog team actually run at the front since it's very oftenthe only time that driver and team will get mentioned at all during the telecast (think Milka Duno leading an Indycar race)


Hey folks since Elissa is a newbie how about we suggest which upcoming races we beleive would be the most enjoyable for her to watch.

I suggest the Race at Richmond early in May.


Paul

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#952 gm914

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 00:46

Bristol baby!

#953 Watkins74

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 00:55

I just remembered why I dislike Phoenix so much. Isn't this the track where people drive about 50' inside the white line and cut the corner?

Only 43 cars are heading out to Phoenix for the Cup race so everyone qualifies.

#954 gm914

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:06

I just remembered why I dislike Phoenix so much. Isn't this the track where people drive about 50' inside the white line and cut the corner?

Is it? Seems to me Bowyer is staying well within the lines on his Phoenix run.

#955 Deluxx

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:23

Bristol baby!



#956 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:02

Apparently Clements used the word 'nigger-rigged', whatever that means. In his interview which is still not published, on a subject I'm unsure of. Maybe Danica's pole?



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:10

Apparently Clements used the word 'nigger-rigged', whatever that means. In his interview which is still not published, on a subject I'm unsure of. Maybe Danica's pole?

It's the insulting version of jury-rigged (which means to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances).

He was taking a MTV reporter (along with a NASCAR official) to Johanna Long's hauler (for this article) when he reportedly said it.

Edited by Dilla, 01 March 2013 - 02:18.


#958 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:38

So basically, if NASCAR hadn't banned him we might not have ever even heard about it?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:56

So basically, if NASCAR hadn't banned him we might not have ever even heard about it?

No, but saying it in front of a NASCAR official is effectively the same thing, isn't it? When Brendan Gaughan's crew chief a couple of years ago got suspended for calling Marc Davis a epithet in the garage after Davis made a mistake, there was no cameras or recordings, but there were for 4 garage guys and a NASCAR official as witnesses and that was enough.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:58

Apparently Clements used the word 'nigger-rigged', whatever that means. In his interview which is still not published, on a subject I'm unsure of. Maybe Danica's pole?

Ooooh that makes so much sense now.

I find the term offensive (I mean it implies that black people suck at putting things together properly). It recalls some of the really racist "bush mechanic" films from Oz about aborigines and their ingenious ways of keeping cars running. But it's hardly a flattering term, and , the n-word is the n-word.

Suspension is fair play, I'd say, though one race is enough.

#961 Lemnpiper

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:16

Ooooh that makes so much sense now.

I find the term offensive (I mean it implies that black people suck at putting things together properly). It recalls some of the really racist "bush mechanic" films from Oz about aborigines and their ingenious ways of keeping cars running. But it's hardly a flattering term, and , the n-word is the n-word.

Suspension is fair play, I'd say, though one race is enough.



I also agree, but 2 races may have been done since missing 2 racers will make it toughers with the new points systyems used in all the series.


One caveat : while it is offensive to use that word , delaying what actually was said has allowed for many alternative possibilites to be considered, which may have made things worse than just saying partially what the offensive word was right from the get go.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:45

Ah yes, and be mindful of da Witchdoctor Jp, I hear his powe... *ribbit*

LOL this is very good advic...*bleeeat*

#963 Magoo

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:32

Apparently Clements used the word 'nigger-rigged', whatever that means. In his interview which is still not published, on a subject I'm unsure of. Maybe Danica's pole?


Dude, you are absolutely obsessed with Danica Patrick.

#964 Magoo

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:38

Ooooh that makes so much sense now.

I find the term offensive (I mean it implies that black people suck at putting things together properly). It recalls some of the really racist "bush mechanic" films from Oz about aborigines and their ingenious ways of keeping cars running. But it's hardly a flattering term, and , the n-word is the n-word.

Suspension is fair play, I'd say, though one race is enough.


NASCAR spends zillions per year trying to rise above its well-deserved goober legacy, only to have it all undone by these episodes. I totally get why they need to come down on this stuff like a ton of bricks.



#965 Jimisgod

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:45

Ooooh that makes so much sense now.

I find the term offensive (I mean it implies that black people suck at putting things together properly). It recalls some of the really racist "bush mechanic" films from Oz about aborigines and their ingenious ways of keeping cars running. But it's hardly a flattering term, and , the n-word is the n-word.

Suspension is fair play, I'd say, though one race is enough.


Those films weren't racist, they were fun. It was always the locals outsmarting some know nothing city guy, like a highstreet Londoner going to the highlands and being outdone by country nous.

#966 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:41

Dude, you are absolutely obsessed with Danica Patrick.


The rumour going around was that he said the pole result was fixed. I can't think of any other context this early in the season where 'nigger-rigged' would be applicable.

#967 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:43

No, but saying it in front of a NASCAR official is effectively the same thing, isn't it? When Brendan Gaughan's crew chief a couple of years ago got suspended for calling Marc Davis a epithet in the garage after Davis made a mistake, there was no cameras or recordings, but there were for 4 garage guys and a NASCAR official as witnesses and that was enough.


That and this are probably the only times I think the Super Secret Fine system would actually be useful. You could seriously punish them without the story getting out, and for NASCAR's own reputation they'd be better off not having it be public. Even if they're cracking down, it doesn't help the stereotypes about the series that it goes on at all.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:16

The revealing thing for me: This a 29 year-old kid raised in South Carolina and he didn't even know he'd said anything odd. That is the world he lives in.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 16:41

NASCAR spends zillions per year trying to rise above its well-deserved goober legacy, only to have it all undone by these episodes. I totally get why they need to come down on this stuff like a ton of bricks.

This.

Don't we have some Phoenix action today?
Owe Ell Bee??

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 19:08

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#971 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 19:22

The fair use argument is interesting, but there's no comparison between NASCAR asking for a video to be taken down and a government. The latter doesn't have much of a copyright claim.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 19:40

If Montoya's fast in practice but there's nowhere to talk about it, did it even happen?  ;)

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 19:44

Unt ze Pony izzn't.
Shißße.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:03

If Montoya's fast in practice but there's nowhere to talk about it, did it even happen? ;)

Looking for that myself...
No Phoenix thread yet?

#975 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:05

The paintjob on the 44 is nifty

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:05

But the 95 slays all. Go Scott Speed.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:07

Unt ze Pony izzn't.
Shißße.
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Neither is her boss...

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:11

So, 43 entries. Could a person like Nemecheck just skip practice, qual, start the race, run 1 lap, take the money, and in total spend... 1k over the whole weekend?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:17

Looking for that myself...
No Phoenix thread yet?


I was gonna make one but I didn't have anything exciting to post about

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:18

So, 43 entries. Could a person like Nemecheck just skip practice, qual, start the race, run 1 lap, take the money, and in total spend... 1k over the whole weekend?

It would cost a bit more than that, but yes...

#981 gm914

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:18

I was gonna make one but I didn't have anything exciting to post about

You could always open with "How long will a laptop last on the roof of a moving Stock Car?"
Did anyone just see that? :lol:

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:19

Speed's paintjob is your motivation

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#983 Magoo

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:23

So, 43 entries. Could a person like Nemecheck just skip practice, qual, start the race, run 1 lap, take the money, and in total spend... 1k over the whole weekend?


Oh hell no. The hauler takes $1.50-2.00 a mile. There's eight grand right there from Charlotte to Phoenix round trip.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:28

Speed's paintjob is your motivation

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Scott Speed, earlier.

#985 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:31

You mean Scott Speed much, much later.

#986 Lemnpiper

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:32

Speed's paintjob is your motivation

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This reminds me of the "Bones" leathers Dave Aldana used while racing the AMA motorcycle flat track series about 1975ish.

It will be the most distinctive car on the track since the black part will blend in with the track and all you'll see is the skull movin




Paul

Edited by Lemnpiper, 01 March 2013 - 20:37.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:36

You mean Scott Speed much, much later.

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#988 Lemnpiper

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:36

The revealing thing for me: This a 29 year-old kid raised in South Carolina and he didn't even know he'd said anything odd. That is the world he lives in.



Sadly it IS somewhat reflective of certain areas in the confederacy where they think the civil war is still winnable if a good leader shows up .


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:42

Myrvold...Our Start and Park strategist... :lol:
Jp

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:17

Pastrana is actually looking pretty stout. Leading Piquet ATM

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:22

JJ vs BK in NNS :clap:

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:50

Where is OLB?
Please, can somebody tell me the expected green-flag time for both races? I'm still a disaster trying to calculate it from the official starting time :blush:

Unt ze Pony izzn't.
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That orthography hurts the eyes. A double Eszett? :p

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:57

NNS Sat- 4:30pm/ET
Cup Sun- 2:30pm/ET

Times of course are approximate.



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:05

Why does Pastrana have no visible sponsors? Or is that 'design' part of something else.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:12

NNS Sat- 4:30pm/ET
Cup Sun- 2:30pm/ET

Times of course are approximate.

Thanks! :up:

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:28

Why does Pastrana have no visible sponsors? Or is that 'design' part of something else.

Unless your company is promoting Pop Rocks, Hungry Hungry Hippos or the Punky Brewster reunion, would you really want your name on that monstrosity?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:38

Myrvold...Our Start and Park strategist... :lol:
Jp


Well, I have a serious soft spot (or was it a hard-on :cat: ) for those small teams, trying to make (not so much Nemechek though, as it seems like he is somewhat financing his Nationwide ride with Start&Park in Sprint)

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:40

Where is OLB?
Please, can somebody tell me the expected green-flag time for both races? I'm still a disaster trying to calculate it from the official starting time :blush:


That orthography hurts the eyes. A double Eszett? :p

At least SOMEONE has the class to bring me to task.

I say start this damn thread NOW.
First one to read this OK...
Unofficial NASCAR@Phoenix 3- 2/3/13
Jp

EDIT...come on it's been a whole 3 minutes.
EDIT EDIT...I'm gonna go smoke a cigarette.. If y'all ain't done it by the time I come back..well

Edited by jonpollak, 01 March 2013 - 22:48.


#999 nosaj100

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 01:49

Why does Pastrana have no visible sponsors? Or is that 'design' part of something else.


Maybe he's continuing Roush's longstanding tradition of being a major team that can't get sponsors for its NW teams.

Edited by nosaj100, 02 March 2013 - 01:49.


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 21:25

Oh, NASCAR...

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