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#1751 gm914

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:49

Btw, Chicago Nationwide OP is up for grabs whoever wants it.

Eldora is going to have it's own thread, and I'm pleased to say someone with dirt in his teeth has agreed to do the OP honors. :up:

Actually it's been a while since I've done a thread. I'll take care of the Chicago Nationwide OP.

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#1752 Dilla

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 19:40

Phoenix Racing has been sold. New guy will announce sale Friday or Saturday and Finch says that he already has sponsorship and a driver lined.

http://m.newsherald....racing-1.173455

Farewell, Finch.

#1753 Deluxx

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 20:37

Already have a driver.... Not AJ? Probably is

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#1754 V3TT3L

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 20:45

What's the advantage of buying such a team like Phoenix ? Owners points ? The ready to go racing structure [building / trucks / personel] ?
The team has a lot of years under the belt, but the results are not good.
What's the poorpiss ?

Edited by V3TT3L, 17 July 2013 - 20:46.


#1755 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 21:25

Poorpiss is going to run, and run.

#1756 Deluxx

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:15

Cheaper to buy out something operational than to start from the ground up.

I guess that's the rationale behind it.

#1757 Dilla

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:28

You have the shop, you have a good pre-existing engine deal and cars from Hendricks, and staff and crew. Easier to take that over trying building from scratch.

Remember two or so years ago when Bruno Senna was looking at NASCAR options because of Piquet's presence before catching a break with Lotus? Well, he's looking again, with IndyCar also an option. And a return to Le Mans, of course.

http://www.autoweek....17/f1/130719832

#1758 gm914

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 02:48

I'd support him. I could see him favoring Indycar over NASCAR though if both opportunities present themselves.

Also this Phoenix sale; doesn't sound like Harry Scott/TSM is the buyer to me.

#1759 Dilla

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 02:54

He'll stay in Le Mans, I bet.

I bet the buyer is Tony Townley. . .

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#1760 gm914

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 03:00

I bet the buyer is Tony Townley. . .

Oh shit "They've already got a driver and sponsorship" Dammit why did twitter have to ban my JWT account?
This could be hilarious.





#1761 V3TT3L

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 14:01

I bet the buyer is Tony Townley. . .

:p I always thought Phoenix was an eagle, not a chicken.

#1762 Rob G

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 00:13

A few days ago Tony Stewart made a huge mistake at a sprint car race at Canandaigua and wiped out most of the field. The wreck involved 15 cars, sent two drivers to the hospital, and caused the organizers to suspend the race and send the late model stock cars out so that anybody with a drivable car could have time to effect repairs. To his credit, Tony manned up and accepted full responsibility for the accident.



#1763 Dilla

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 02:21

Finch's lineup though his final races as owner appears to be all Allmendinger except for Watkins Glen and Bristol, with will debut Owen Kelly and Ryan Truex to the Sprint Cup series.

Also, Finch says that he'll, "still be around" after the transition is complete.

#1764 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 03:28

A few days ago Tony Stewart made a huge mistake at a sprint car race at Canandaigua and wiped out most of the field. The wreck involved 15 cars, sent two drivers to the hospital, and caused the organizers to suspend the race and send the late model stock cars out so that anybody with a drivable car could have time to effect repairs. To his credit, Tony manned up and accepted full responsibility for the accident.


Wow. Crazy wreck.

#1765 TimRTC

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 19:57

Quick question - when are the next year's race dates normally announced and how likely are they to change?

I am travelling to the US in early May and hoping to catch a NASCAR or NHRA event on 4th May, I just need to wait and find out where there is one.

Edited by TimRTC, 21 July 2013 - 19:58.


#1766 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 20:06

That's the Talladega-ish weekend of the last few years, before that usually Darlington.

#1767 Dilla

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 17:47

ESPN and TNT out; NBC in starting in 2015.

ESPN and Turner Sports will be out of the NASCAR business after next season, ending associations with the sport that go back three decades. NASCAR plans to announce this afternoon a new rights deal with NBC for the second half of the Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series seasons -- a package that previously had been held by ESPN. Beginning in '15, NBC will share NASCAR coverage with Fox, which signed an extension with NASCAR last year. Financial terms of NBC's deal were not available, but sources familiar with it said it was as much as a 50% increase from what ESPN paid for the Sprint Cup series and half of the Nationwide Series. Turner's package of six Sprint Cup races, as well as the first half of the Nationwide Series, remain available, according to sources. Fox is considered a likely bidder for both those packages. Turner and ESPN, which are in the seventh year of eight-year agreements valued at $2.74B overall, had an exclusive negotiating window with NASCAR that ended July 14. When they did not finalize extensions, NASCAR turned to NBC.

INTERNAL DEBATE ABOUT LEAVING ESPN: Sources familiar with the organization said there was a debate about leaving ESPN. There was concern the move would hurt the sport's exposure to casual sports fans who watch "SportsCenter," "PTI" and other ESPN programs. But sources said NASCAR execs made the choice to go with NBC for several reasons beyond its willingness to outspend its competitors. NBC's broadcast plans are not known, but the network had been pitching NASCAR on returning the Sprint Cup series to broadcast TV and could air races on Sunday afternoons on NBC prior to its "Sunday Night Football" broadcast. It also offered a chance to cross-promote NASCAR with the Olympics. Lastly, the sport's leaders have a level of comfort with NBC Sports Group Chair Mark Lazarus, who previously worked with NASCAR when he was president at Turner Sports. Lazarus consulted NASCAR on its upcoming TV negotiations when he was at Atlanta-based CSE before he joined NBC. NBC was disappointed when it lost NASCAR to ESPN in '06.

NOT WILLING TO MEET NBC'S OFFER: ESPN and Turner both were interested in keeping the rights, but were not willing to pay as much as NBC was offering, sources said. Turner only had six races, which did not help increase cable license fees for TNT. ESPN has focused on more populists, like college football and basketball. Both networks suffered through ratings declines recently -- this year was Turner's lowest rated. They also complained that NASCAR, more than other sports, was hurt by the economy, making ad sales more of a challenge. Turner Broadcasting President of Sales, Distribution & Sports David Levy said, "Turner Sports is proud of the partnership we've built with NASCAR over the past 31 years and the role our company has played in helping to grow the sport. We think NASCAR is an attractive property, but we are disciplined in our approach to negotiating sports rights and could not come up with a business model that was financially prudent for our company."

http://www.sportsbus...dia/NASCAR.aspx

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#1768 Dilla

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 19:20

Here are the details: Contract is from 2015-2024

  • 20 Sprint Cup races: 13 on NBC Sports Network, 7 on NBC
  • 19 Nationwide Series races plus select regional/touring events: 15 NNS races on NBC Sports Network, 4 on NBC
  • NBC has the rights to broadcast the season-ending awards ceremonies and the NASCAR Hall of Fame ceremonies
  • NBC will have exclusive rights to practice and qualifying sessions of Cup and NNS during its portion of the season.
  • Exclusive rights to NASCAR K&N Series, NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour, & Mexican NASCAR Toyota Series events

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#1769 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 20:03

Uh oh. Indycar fans may not be able to hide behind "It's because we're on NBCSN that no one watches".

#1770 Dilla

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 20:19

To be fair, no one is really watching NBCSN now or in the past, but NBC is trying to up the ante to get in more expanded basic cable packages, as seen by this and the acquiring of Big East basketball/American Athletic football & basketball rights.

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#1771 jdanton

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 20:27

To be fair, no one is really watching NBCSN now or in the past, but NBC is trying to up the ante to get in more expanded basic cable packages, as seen by this and the acquiring of Big East basketball/American Athletic football & basketball rights.


The hockey playoff games there got pretty solid ratings.

#1772 jonpollak

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 21:18

The highest rated program on NBCSN was the 2012 Girls Olympic Football Final.
Jp

#1773 HaydenFan

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 21:34

Well there goes any hope of extended IndyCar/F1 coverage. In fact I expect both to be greatly scaled back.

jp, but that game was probably the biggest event in the Olympics this time around for the U.S. They women's team was considered one of the best football teams of the sport, and some of the best women's players of all time. Plus, it was going to be a huge game after the semi @ Old Trafford which went into penalties against Canada.



#1774 nosaj100

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 23:47

Not surprised the NBC paid a lot (overpaid?) for NASCAR. They're desperate for content for NBCSN, especially now that Fox has its own sports channel. I'm not entirely certain on this but the NFL and MLB deals are locked up so the only popular sports up for bidding were NASCAR and the NBA (in 2014 or 15 I believe). Turner and ESPN will likely throw lots of cash at the NBA so NASCAR was really the best option NBC had. They're now the alt-sport network. With ESPN and Fox Sports having all the major and college sports, NBC has the EPL, NHL, Indycar, F1, NASCAR, etc.

I just hope they use their rights to give good content. They have plenty of airtime to fill (I swear 90% of their shows are fishing) so hopefully we'll get some informative studio shows and more K&N or Modified races. I hope they get some of ESPN's talent as well. I've always liked Allen Bestwick and Dr. Jerry Punch in their roles and Dale Jarrett has become a solid analyst as well.

#1775 jonpollak

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 00:15

jp, but that game was probably the biggest event in the Olympics this time around for the U.S. They women's team was considered one of the best football teams of the sport, and some of the best women's players of all time. Plus, it was going to be a huge game after the semi @ Old Trafford which went into penalties against Canada.


Oh I know... I am a big fan of the WNT.
Met Carli Lloyd and Tobin Heath at a show I did in Chicago shortly after their Gold Medal game..
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#1776 Dilla

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 16:11

Best firesuit ever?

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#1777 HaydenFan

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 16:25

Best firesuit ever?


I've looked and I honestly cannot say it isn't. The UPS turd colored suits where funny, but not great. The Red Bull one's were just recycled F1 suits. Jeff Gordon's 90's getup was great, but was just part of the 90's (same with Davey Allison's Havoline firesuit). Maybe Bobby Allison's Miller Light gold suit is comparable.

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I've seen the suit or at least thought of the suit-firesuit idea before. Just cannot recall where.

Plus you see the car in the background? That's going to be a good looking car as well.

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#1778 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 16:29

http://www.autosport...o.php/id/57817/

#1779 gm914

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 16:33

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#1780 Dilla

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 16:36

Plus you see the car in the background? That's going to be a good looking car as well.

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#1781 gm914

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 16:41

^nice.

#1782 Jim Thurman

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 17:19

I've seen the suit or at least thought of the suit-firesuit idea before. Just cannot recall where.

It will get no mention because it's obscure, old and from the West Coast, but at the local short track I attended back in the mid-1970s, Cajon Speedway near San Diego, there was a driver - Ed Hale - who was sponsored by a tuxedo place. You guessed it. He wore a tuxedo. That track, being independent, didn't require firesuits yet (yes, even that late).

I still remember being at opening night. We sat low in the backstretch bleachers, going into turn 3. He went by in his '64 Valiant convertible (yep!) and dad turned to me and said: "Is he wearing a tuxedo?" :lol: Stunned, we waited for him to come by on his next lap, and, yes...he was. When the track came into the NASCAR fold, he managed to have Deist custom make a tuxedo-style firesuit for him.

I doubt you'll find much (if any) reference to this, let alone any photos on the internets. Stock Car Racing magazine had a photo of him in the firesuit sometime in the early 90s, with the story behind it. That was something like 15-17 years after he'd started doing it :)

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#1783 John B

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 20:55

A few days ago Tony Stewart made a huge mistake at a sprint car race at Canandaigua and wiped out most of the field. The wreck involved 15 cars, sent two drivers to the hospital, and caused the organizers to suspend the race and send the late model stock cars out so that anybody with a drivable car could have time to effect repairs. To his credit, Tony manned up and accepted full responsibility for the accident.


I'm hoping they had ambulances on site ready to respond faster than the ones that showed up in the video.....

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 23:11

To be fair, no one is really watching NBCSN now or in the past, but NBC is trying to up the ante to get in more expanded basic cable packages, as seen by this and the acquiring of Big East basketball/American Athletic football & basketball rights.

NBC is slowly creeping up there as contracts expire on other networks. They have been the only place to watch big time hockey games. I can only see their audience go up as they get hockey, F1, EPL football, Olympics, and now NASCAR. Thats a pretty solid lineup with a lot of diversity. Should they have multiple Sunday night NFL games they can move to NBCSN or maybe some basketball somewhere they will diversify more with darker colored skinned audience.

#1785 gm914

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 20:10

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just sayin'  ;)

#1786 John B

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 15:45

The TV changes round out with three more booggity-booggity races for Fox in Cup, plus 14 Nationwide.

#1787 Dilla

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 19:18

Dale Jr. is doing an AMA on Reddit (r/NASCAR) on Aug. 6 at 1:40.

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 23:40

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just sayin' ;)


You're just lucky I read this thread sometimes

(p.s. How good was that Eldora race? I just watched it last night. Dirt's just better.)

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#1789 gm914

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 00:04

:wave:

#1790 SR388

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 05:16

Apparently Tony Stewart has been injured doing another sprint car race!

I hope he is okay!

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Her husband is a racer and was at track > MT @amyjcoons: Jerry was told by an official that Tony Stewart has a compound fracture in his leg
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#1791 SR388

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 05:35

http://www.usatoday....ulance/2622305/

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:38

What an eerie coincidence. I just read an article that was mainly about the Sprint car driver who died on Sunday, and Stewart was quoted that he would continue racing sprint cars despite the danger.

#1793 Pikachu Racing

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 21:20

Fun video of NASCAR TV goofs:

#1794 Crafty

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 21:39

Max Papis to sit in for Tony apparently.

#1795 Dilla

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:53

Phoenix engineer may have inadvertently confirmed Harry Scott as the buyer.

http://www.speedcafe...ndrew-dickeson/

SPEEDCAFE: With the sale of the team what’s the immediate future for you guys at Phoenix?

DICKESON:
Right now its business as usual up until the end of this month. Then the new owners led by Harry Scott take over and I’m not sure what they have planned.

We’ve just been told to keep working hard. Right now obviously this weekend is very exciting and the other stuff will take care of itself.



#1796 gm914

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 15:29

Phoenix engineer may have inadvertently confirmed Harry Scott as the buyer.

http://www.speedcafe...ndrew-dickeson/

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Someone's got Valve-Spring Polisher in their future job desciption.

Pleased though :up:

#1797 John B

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 21:06

Stewart out at least 3 races plus possibly more pending evaluation. Would like to see them give Larson a shot.

#1798 V3TT3L

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:21

:eek:
Tryson takes over as Piquet's crew chief: Pat Tryson is taking on crew chief duties for Nelson Piquet Jr. and the #30 Nationwide Series team at Turner Scott Motorsports. Tryson most recently worked for BK Racing with David Reutimann and the #83 team, but the veteran crew chief has an extensive motorsports resume that includes eight career wins during his tenure at Roush Fenway Racing with Mark Martin and Penske Racing with Kurt Busch. Tryson replaces Chris Carrier, who led Piquet to two wins and a career-high finish of seventh in the truck series in 2012. However, this season Piquet has not shown the same promise in the Nationwide Series. In 20 starts, Piquet has produced just two top-10 finishes. Carrier was reassigned to work with Ben Kennedy, the 21-year-old great-grandson of NASCAR founder Bill France. Kennedy will race at Bristol in the truck series Aug. 21.(Fox Sports)(8-8-2013)

It was time... further to change the Crew Chief with no experience in NNS, NP is already trying his third engineer this season.
GL to the hard work Carrier that was very appreciated by Piquet. :wave:

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:59

Pat Tryson is a veteran crew chief that won lots of Sprint Cup races and made the Chase with Mark Martin at Roush and Kurt Busch at Penske five times, but has had a hard time since 2010. We'll see if he can get some of that old mojo back with Piquet.

http://racing-refere...iefs/Pat_Tryson

It's a shame because I like Chris Carrier, but maybe he is better suited for development in Trucks which is why I think he'll help Ben Kennedy.

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#1800 Dilla

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 18:52

Austin Dillon will run the #14 at Michigan.