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#1801 Watkins74

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 19:23

Austin Dillon will run the #14 at Michigan.

Great </sarcasm>

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#1802 gm914

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 19:56

I'm guessing this is Tony's way of saying sorry to Bass Pro Shops.
How about saying sorry to the fans for putting a freakin' Dillon in your car, Smoke?

BTW that Mid Ohio NNS lineup is a thing of beauty.

Edited by gm914, 12 August 2013 - 20:01.


#1803 Dilla

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 20:20

It says TBA on the entry list, but Alx Danielsson will be in the 73.

#1804 SR388

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 13:18

I just re-watched the 2000 Winston race.

Some notes:

1. I miss Winston, they were great for racing and they really put up a lot of money into that series.

2. I miss TNN. They had Eli Gold, Buddy Baker, Dick Bergren, and Shoutin Ralph Shaheen!

3. Dale Jr. was a bit of a sensation that year. Two wins I believe, I remember watching his race at Texas, to take his first. You really would have thought that he was on his way to a championship career.

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4. The young talent was sort of weak at that time period. Dale Jr was one of the most successful "young" guys in that field and he was 25. Guys like Steve Parks and Jeremy Mayfield were also showing great promise. Tony Stewart would of course be a legend, as would Jeff Gordon.

5. NASCAR fans like drivers in their twilight and hate persistent winners. Dale Sr., a massive thunderous applause while Jeff Gordon got boo'd at a level that would surprise Kyle Busch. Mind you Jeff was a super nice guy too, never punted anyone off the track or shoved reporters, just a fast driver. Now folks like me, who cheered super hard for Dale Sr., and didn't care for Jeff are now firmly in his camp, now that he sort of seems to be in the twilight of his career.

6. The Winston had the best looking special race cars. Dale Sr., had a gorgeous yellow and pink job, which I remember lusting over when I was younger and remember wanting a die cast of so badly.

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7. The race wasn't sold out, there were a bunch of sections completely empty.

8. Remember that store NASCAR Thunder? We had one in Knoxville, that place was awesome, and it was still operating in 2000.

9. I have no idea the internet was that decent back in 2000. On the broadcast, they mentioned a couple of times that if you went to TNN.com you could watch the race live from Jerry Nadeu's car during the race. IN 2000!!! I still find race buddy in 2013 to be a delightful luxury in 2013. What sort of magic computers did TNN have back then?

10. There will never, EVER, be another Dale Earnhardt. He was the most charismatic driver in all of motorsport. He could be kind and likeable like a Jeff Gordon. He had the honest background that endeared the common man to his camp, there was no having his way paid for him, he had to work. He was genuine county, yet still sophisticated, you believed that this man was who you saw out working his farm, and he was just a country guy who made the big times. Now you get the faux country of the Dillon brothers, who think putting on a Stetson after the race somehow makes you country or more relatable to the common man. He had the wit and cutting remarks of Tony Stewart, but he never came off like a mean spirited jerk that Tony often comes off as. He embraced his fans and his critics, and he had driven in a manner to earn both. Now you get guys like a Kyle Busch, who seem to still show honest surprise whenever he is booed. Dale Earnhardt knew why he was being booed, and he was happy to create emotion from the crowd. I know this may be heavily influenced by rose tinted glasses, but there will never be another personality in this sport like The Intimidator, and that truly makes me sad.

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#1805 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 13:29

9. I'm trying to think of who would have had the internet connection and computer graphics power to process that.

#1806 SR388

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 13:36

9. I'm trying to think of who would have had the internet connection and computer graphics power to process that.



That's what I was wondering. I remembered when AOL sponsored Kevin Harvick back in 2001. Aint no way that you could watch Jerry Nadaeu live if you were still worried about using up your 600 free minutes!

#1807 John B

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 14:09

3. Dale Jr. was a bit of a sensation that year. Two wins I believe, I remember watching his race at Texas, to take his first. You really would have thought that he was on his way to a championship career.



He was on the right track through 2004, when he won a bunch of races and lost a very good chance at the title to a crash late in the Chase at Atlanta. He did benefit from DEI's significant plate track advantage during that time. Since 2005 it's been a different story.

#1808 SR388

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 14:57

He was on the right track through 2004, when he won a bunch of races and lost a very good chance at the title to a crash late in the Chase at Atlanta. He did benefit from DEI's significant plate track advantage during that time. Since 2005 it's been a different story.


They were something on the high speed tracks. I remember the RAD partnership they formed, RCR, Andy Petree Racing, and DEI to develop aero and engine packages for those races.

#1809 Prost1997T

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 16:13

That's what I was wondering. I remembered when AOL sponsored Kevin Harvick back in 2001. Aint no way that you could watch Jerry Nadaeu live if you were still worried about using up your 600 free minutes!


I've had DSL available locally since 1999 (and that's probably late by some countries' standards). I'm pretty sure it was affordable for businesses before that as well.

#1810 Dilla

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 17:08

In the most unsurprising news this year, Brian Vickers will run full-time with Aaron's sponsorship on a two year deal.

Which likely leaves the #20 Gibbs NW car open next year.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 20:50

Montoya and Ganassi won't team in 2014:

http://www.indystar....ck-Ganassi-2014

#1812 gm914

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 20:52

In the most unsurprising news this year, Brian Vickers will run full-time with Aaron's sponsorship on a two year deal.

Which likely leaves the #20 Gibbs NW car open next year.

Kyle Busch will find a way to clone himself and sign-up Kyle2.0 to the #20.

Where's Epic Swag gonna go? :cry:

#1813 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 20:57

Ganassi?


Didn't see the JPM departure coming. I know a lot of people did, but I think it was more based on frustration than reading the tea leaves properly. They seemed (relatively) happy with each other and I figured he was good for another year.

#1814 gm914

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 21:04

Montoya and Ganassi won't team in 2014:

http://www.indystar....ck-Ganassi-2014

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Holy crap. Where's Monty gonna go?
Retirement?

#1815 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 21:25

More interestingly who gets the 42?


Martin/Larson share-a-ride? Newmanium? Dial a Dillon?


The prophecy fulfilled and Steven Wallace?

#1816 V3TT3L

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 21:34

http://racing.ap.org...ck-ganassi-2014

Ganassi president Steve Lauletta announced the decision to the team Tuesday, multiple people present for the announcement told The Associated Press [JENNA FRYER] on condition of anonymity because Ganassi does not comment on driver contracts.

Montoya to RedBull? :p

Edited by V3TT3L, 13 August 2013 - 21:46.


#1817 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 21:37

I don't know why you'd announce something like that if you have a policy of not commenting on driver contracts. Because you know it's going to get out. You don't even need to tell the team he's leaving, you could conceivably wait until you've signed the next guy.

And even that shouldn't be announced until a few minutes before the press announcement because guess what...

#1818 gm914

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 22:29

Like to hear JPM's take on this, they've a long history together. I wonder if he'll still race for Chip in sportscars
I also hope OLB hasn't thrown anything heavy out of a window.

#1819 Juablo

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 22:34

Disappointed but not surprised :cry:

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#1820 paulogman

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 22:43

good, damn team never was the same one year to the next
how the hell do you get a serious team that is always switching everything out


#1821 pingu666

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 22:49

kurt busch doesnt have a contract for next year. (or didnt)
newman does bring some sponsors though
itll be asking alot from larson, he would disapear in the mid field like stenhouse has.


the 1 car hasnt really run much better, and jpm ran a similer abit better on average in previous years

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#1822 paulogman

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 22:51

kurt busch should be in a top team not ganassi
newman? sounds about right.
not the best, not the worst


#1823 Dilla

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 23:14

Welp, it might be the end of NASCAR on Autosport Forums as we know it if Montoya leaves the series.

It's been real guys. I'm thinking Newman for the 42, maybe Allmendinger since Ganassi loves the open-wheel guys.

Seriously, though, if Montoya stays in the series, I think the 78 or 47 would be interested.

Personally, I'm thinking IndyCar or sports cars.

Edited by Dilla, 13 August 2013 - 23:24.


#1824 gm914

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 23:17

I'll be here. :wave:

Jayski update-

AND Team co-owner Felix Sabates later confirmed the move to SiriusXMs NASCAR channel. "We did not renew the contract for next year,"
Sabates told the channel. "It was a difficult decision. He understands. You have to move on in life sometimes. Its frustrating for everybody when you know youve got good equipment and you cant seem to put everything together still."
Target is set to sponsor the #42 car next year.
Several drivers could replace Montoya. Chase contenders Kurt Busch and Ryan Newman don't have contracts for next season. There are also several Nationwide drivers who could be available, including rookie Kyle Larson, who reportedly has several years remaining in a contact with Ganassi.
#1-Jamie McMurray is expected to return to the other EGR car in 2014.



#1825 Dilla

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 23:22

Larson needs to stay in NW next year. Please don't 'Casey Atwood'/'Reed Sorenson' him, Ganassi.

#1826 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 23:25

Kurt Busch and Target is a total lol combo. I know he's reformed a bit, but still.

#1827 gm914

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 23:27

I think 'dinger is a solid choice Dilla.
And I could see Juan in the #78. No teammate comparisons, fresh Colorado mountain air, plenty of space to fly his RC planes, and appearing in commercials in his jammies.
Might have to put a bit more effort into the driving though.

#1828 Dilla

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 23:35

I think Ganassi already know who he wants and is already in negotiations. I doubt he would have come out with this with 14 weeks left in the season otherwise.

#1829 GustavoB

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 23:41

Montoya and Ganassi won't team in 2014:

http://www.indystar....ck-Ganassi-2014

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#1830 nosaj100

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 00:00

I just re-watched the 2000 Winston race.

Some notes:

3. Dale Jr. was a bit of a sensation that year. Two wins I believe, I remember watching his race at Texas, to take his first. You really would have thought that he was on his way to a championship career.

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Isn't it obvious why he ran so well? Check out those blonde highlights!




As for Montoya/Ganassi, its not surprising. This forum has actually been more on top of the story than some other places I go so I'm pretty sure we all knew it. I think the most interesting thing is not who will be in the 42, but if Montoya will be in NASCAR at all. I doubt any top team will have him and they're aren't many small teams out there either that are worth his time. If he stays, I'd keep an eye on Furniture Row. They've been anxious to expand operations for a couple of years now. They pitched Dodge hard to make them their primary team, even had a deal in place to buy Penske's engine shop, but Dodge decided NASCAR wasn't worth the investment right now. And I've heard FR are looking around again. If they get more support from a manufacturer or land a big sponsor, I wouldn't be surprised at all for them to field 2 cars next year, one for Kurt and one for Monty, Newman, whoever. Basically that's a long explanation of saying FR wants to be a larger player in NASCAR and would probably go after JP.

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#1831 Dilla

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 00:03

And I've heard FR are looking around again. If they get more support from a manufacturer or land a big sponsor, I wouldn't be surprised at all for them to field 2 cars next year, one for Kurt and one for Monty, Newman, whoever. Basically that's a long explanation of saying FR wants to be a larger player in NASCAR and would probably go after JP.

They have, Toyota officials visited their shop last week.

#1832 pingu666

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 03:27

comperative wise it would be a sideways move for kurt? so maybe he would want quite alot of money. but he would be a good benchmark.

#1833 gm914

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 03:35

comperative wise it would be a sideways move for kurt? so maybe he would want quite alot of money. but he would be a good benchmark.

It might not be all about the money for Kurt, if Chip offers him the keys to a new Honda once a year...

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 05:11

Great </sarcasm>


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#1835 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 06:20

Not a good year to suddenly be a free agent late in the season for someone like Montoya.

Money are tight in the sport and top teams needing more driver assisted funding for their cars.

Few seats available in any team, especially top and midfield teams.

Kurt Bush, NASCAR champion and race winner, and Ryan Newman, multiple race winner, are both on the market.

It's a tough one for a continued NASCAR career.

And then that annoying Dillonkid on top of that, now with the #14 drive for at least one race and his grand dad having a seat open for next year.

Dillon to RCR? Kurt Bush to stay and FR? Newman to EGR? Montoya out of a drive or replacing Allmending in the sold team or end up in a second FR car? Or could Montoya end up taking Ambroses drive at Petty Motorsport? I don't know what the contractual status is there. The reason for that could be that Petty Motorsport still has a good road course racer to be in a serious hunt for at least two road course race wins each year and potentially a better oval racer in Montoya than in Ambrose perhaps plus a tap into the Latin America market to help find new sponsors ....

A lot of speculations of course.

It's a bit annoying, since 2009 EGR has gone through a constant flow of changes in staff including multiple crew chiefs on 42 in a sport where a long term relationship between crew chief and driver is an important factor to success. Now there are signs EGR finally has started to get some missing pieces together.

#1836 teejay

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 08:22

Nooooooooooo :(

Hopefully a change of team might change his luck though.

#1837 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 10:37

Welp, it might be the end of NASCAR on Autosport Forums as we know it if Montoya leaves the series.

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I'll stay. But I'll miss Montoya if he is out of a ride come 2014

#1838 FLB

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 11:45

I wonder if Ganassi still thinks Brian Pattie was the problem in 2011...

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 13:32

Yeah Bowyer is really doing terrible working with Brian Pattie ....

One of so many strange moves from EGR.

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#1840 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 13:43

Let's start the Montoya to 20/Gibbs in Nationwide rumor.

As part of the semi-annual "Gibbs wants 4th Cup car" thing.

#1841 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 13:48

Ahh Montoya in Nationwide. That could be fun ....

#1842 HaydenFan

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 15:09

Would have a chance to do well. But then again, Vickers has looked a bit lackluster in the car and he seems to be rated higher by teams than Montoya.

#1843 V3TT3L

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 15:19

It seems that Kanaan is going to Ganassi... so this road is blocked to John Paul too. :well:

#1844 John B

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 15:27

7 years for JPM was about 6 1/2 more than some pundits were anticipating when he first signed....


#1845 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 15:30

I remember Robin Miller's prediction that he'd make it as far as the Brickyard 400 to be the first guy to run all three major events at the Speedway. It was probably said in jest, but still...

#1846 Dilla

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 18:13

Any volunteers for the Mid-Ohio/Michigan/Michigan NASCAR weekend thread?

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 18:39

http://cgi.ebay.com/.....3AMOTORS:1123

one for ross ;)

#1848 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 19:34

Yeah I'll buy that and race it at Mosport. Then when I miss every turn I can be like "Uh, well, I'm still running the Eldora setup".

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 20:10

Yeah I'll buy that and race it at Mosport. Then when I miss every turn I can be like "Uh, well, I'm still running the Eldora setup".

Such a deal!
No engine tranny or rear end. Bet the seat is missing to, or it would be more like 17,600.
BUT!
It does come with $50,000 in Vehicle Purchase Protection when your transaction is completed online through eBay* and Geico will give you a free insurance quote!
Personally,I'm still kinda looking for an old Toyota Formula Atlantic car to go thrash around in at the local rent a lap track, but finding one turnkey seems impossible




*Yeah, right.


#1850 HaydenFan

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 20:13

Yeah I'll buy that and race it at Mosport. Then when I miss every turn I can be like "Uh, well, I'm still running the Eldora setup".


I think the dirt (i.e. loose) setup would actually work well at Mosport (oh, I mean Canadian Tire Motorsports Park). The extra body roll could get good front end grip on the uphill corners, slide the rear down hill.

I personally like the part under "Condition".

Used: A vehicle is considered used if it has been registered and issued a title. Used vehicles have had at least one previous owner. The condition of the exterior, interior and engine can vary depending on the vehicle's history. See the seller's listing for full details and description of any imperfections.


All those bidding probably know the condition of that truck (not very good).