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#1901 Juablo

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 21:35

Seems to me they decided it was Larson with Target and either Jamie or JPM for next season and Jamie has sponsorship whereas JPM doesn't. Outside of Busch and Newman, are the options any better than Juan? I don't think so.



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#1902 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 22:21

I just can't see RCR having 4 cars(I'm counting the 78 as a separate one). The 29 is partially funded, with Newman or Dillon I could see them completing the budget. But having the 27, 29, 31, and 3? I dunno, that's a big jump in income. So I reckon Newman is in the 29 and Dillon goes to the 78?

 

And then Juan Pablo drives one of the Burger King cars.



#1903 Dilla

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 22:40

^The 47, but then again, even JTG has honed in on trying to get Allmendinger.



#1904 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:46

 

RCR bringing # 3 into Cup with Dillon and putting Newman in the # 29 car and Montoya could go to # 78 ... or IndyCars?

 

 

I think they will all drive for Ferrari!

 

Which brings up two interesting poll type questions in my head:

 

Should the #3 come back?

WW sez:....N

If you could send one tippy top of the line NASCAR driver to Europe for a tippy top ride, who would you send?

WW sez:... Kyle Busch.


Edited by whitewaterMkII, 27 August 2013 - 01:54.


#1905 Dilla

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:47

I feel like the entry list for this race will be really short, like 24-25 trucks entered. We'll see if there are any surprise entrants in two days.

 

There are currently 30 trucks entered, it might be 31 because the Max Papis entry isn't up there yet. More than I thought there would be, but still like 6 trucks short of a full field.

 

http://www.jayski.co...cts14ctmp-entry



#1906 V3TT3L

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:05

There are currently 30 trucks entered, it might be 31 because the Max Papis entry isn't up there yet. More than I thought there would be, but still like 6 trucks short of a full field.

 

http://www.jayski.co...cts14ctmp-entry

Oh Canada... to far from North Carolina.

 

Maybe its just too expensive to travel that far if there isn't a fair reward for the Start'N'Parkers.



#1907 paulogman

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:35

Which brings up two interesting poll type questions in my head:

 

Should the #3 come back?

WW sez:....N

If you could send one tippy top of the line NASCAR driver to Europe for a tippy top ride, who would you send?

WW sez:... Kyle Busch.

bring back the 3

send kevin harvick beat the crap out of all of them lol



#1908 Dilla

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:45

Bob Pockrass @bobpockrass 4h

I asked RC on Sat if he had deal w/Newman. His answer was they were talking RT @Lancesells23: is Newman still on the way to RCR?

 

Remember, Newman supposedly has Quicken Loans money.



#1909 John B

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 15:22

Busch, Harvick, Stewart could make for some interesting team meetings.

 

Looks like ESPN/TNT, NASCAR and Fox/NBC in complicated discussions about ESPN/TNT getting out a year early.



#1910 Juablo

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 19:44

NASCAR fans hate boner ads

 

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#1911 Deluxx

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 02:08

WOWWWWWWW. Been away for a bit I don't know if this is old news, but: http://thatsracinluc...-to-sprint.html



#1912 pingu666

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 02:25

ah well, be interesting to see if hes ready.



#1913 Dilla

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:14

WOWWWWWWW. Been away for a bit I don't know if this is old news, but: http://thatsracinluc...-to-sprint.html

 

Ganassi is going to murder Larson's career.



#1914 Dilla

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 14:07

An update on this, Larson isn't confirmed. The new driver is someone not currently in the Sprint Cup garage, so it's assumed to be Larson.

Edited by Dilla, 28 August 2013 - 14:08.


#1915 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 15:27

Ganassi is going to murder Larson's career.

He has some absurdly long 'development' contract with Ganassi, which sounds to me as if it's loaded with options of some sort. I have no idea what the difference is between a regular contract and a 'development' contract, but no doubt it was written with Ganassi's interests coming first. I've read it somewhere it's around 6 more years. If he progresses as he has been, Chip will lose him at his prime, or as you say, kill his career. I think the guy is pretty good, I'm just surprised that Fatassi is moving him up so quick, I think he's only 20 years old. I think JPM's contract had one more option year in it, and another year in Nationwide would have done Larson no harm at all.

There is an I in Chip, and no I in team, which has always been the case with Ganassi.



#1916 V3TT3L

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 15:48

IMO, its better for Larson to stay out for a couple of years.

 

Once he starts to race at Cup he will become a cellebrity and his private life is over.

 

So many races at Cup and also he needs to workout more.



#1917 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 15:58

There's not that many more Cup races than Nationwide and the cars arent dramaticaly faster. I actually reckon that while Larson isn't 'ready' he might as well step up. What's going to prepare him better for 2015 Cup, 2014 Nationwide or 2014 Cup? 



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 16:17

There's not that many more Cup races than Nationwide and the cars arent dramaticaly faster. I actually reckon that while Larson isn't 'ready' he might as well step up. What's going to prepare him better for 2015 Cup, 2014 Nationwide or 2014 Cup? 

To have a life. Carpe Diem.

 

And its done...

Kyle Larson to move to Sprint Cup Series with Ganassi Racing in 2014

http://sulia.com/cha...9-489b0b6420d8/


Edited by V3TT3L, 28 August 2013 - 19:33.


#1919 Yhamm

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 18:28

I have the feeling that Ganassi is doing the same thing with Larson than Gibs with Logano. He should stay in NNS longer...



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#1920 Dilla

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 19:01

Ganassi has down this once before. . . didn't work out so great.

 

That said, Larson is more talented than Reed Sorenson.


Edited by Dilla, 28 August 2013 - 19:16.


#1921 gm914

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 19:36

There is also the word 'ass' in Ganassi.

 

I hope this works out well for Larson. But I'm also in the 'too soon' camp. 



#1922 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 23:06

There's not that many more Cup races than Nationwide and the cars arent dramaticaly faster. I actually reckon that while Larson isn't 'ready' he might as well step up. What's going to prepare him better for 2015 Cup, 2014 Nationwide or 2014 Cup? 

He's good, no doubt.

But newbies in NASCAR lately are coming in pretty weak actually.

Some highlights...

Hornish, 7 years in NWS 2 fer 89

Ricky Stenhouse 4 years in NWS 8-106

The Danica          4 years 0-60

Now for the latest greatest greatest, Kyle 0-23

C'mon, Piquet has two more wins than the last two I listed in NWS.



#1923 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 23:22

How were Johnson's stats  :p

 

I think it's really unfair to put Larson in a Hornish comparison.



#1924 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 23:41

How were Johnson's stats  :p

 

 

Good one

1-93 in 11 years!

The shame!

Yeah, for Hornish, let's plug in Ky Busch at 60-261 in 11  :drunk: 



#1925 John B

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 23:56

I think it's a good move for Ganassi to take a chance on hitting it big with a young talent/impact driver. For most of his tenure in NASCAR he's had midfield/journeymen. Bringing in similar to replace JPM doesn't seem like much of a move forward, he'll still have McMurray in that vet role regardless.

 

One advantage he'll have compared to Logano/Gibbs is not having two star teammates to live up to off the bat. That and the current G6 looks more driveable/similar to Nationwide than the original COT.



#1926 pingu666

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:27

hes better than lagano, but if you look at recent guys who took the step, cup is way harder than nationwide



#1927 V3TT3L

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 04:02

JJ said recently that Larson [or any young driver] shouldn't stay for long in NNS, because one can develop 'bad [racing] habits'.  :confused:



#1928 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:23

I wonder if Ganassi might have been forced to act on Larson. 

 

A development deal probably doesn't tie Larson to the team forever before joining the Cup team and with Larson being in demand there were proably options to leave and for the vultures to try and snatch him off Ganassi. I'm sure teams like Hendrick and Rousch already were sniffing around. 

 

There were probably also some pressure from Target. The team has held on to that sponsorship in NASCAR surprisingly long and maybe they felt they needed something else than Montoya and that something else wasn't McMurray or Newman or Kurt Busch. 

 

I'm in the too soon camp but can see that another year or two in Nationwide doesn't necessarily prepare a driver better for Cup. The Nationwide cars seem to handle and drive very different to the Cup cars. At the end of the day every driver is different and takes different times and methods to be prepared. Larson could very well be prepared for Cup already while other drivers needed more time or different time. 

As a Montoya fan I'm at least glad that he is replaced by someone exciting such as Larson rather than someone like Ryan Newman. I'm just not sure joining Ganassi is particurarly good even if they are showing signs of improvement. 



#1929 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 11:49

My gut feeling is they may have been backed into a corner on Larson because all the other non-Montoya options suddenly evaporated. The Kurt Busch SHR move was totally out of left field.



#1930 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 12:48

I would like to see Montoya stay in NASCAR, and go for a full season in Nationwide.  I think he could get a slam-dance winner of a car in N'wide which would meet his criteria of a winning car.  Maybe that way he could show the world he can race stock cars.

 

To me N'wide is on a par with just about any other racing series where he could hope to get a winning ride.



#1931 John B

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 13:50

Here's the recent article on MRN with Johnson's quotes on Nationwide that also discusses Larson and Dillon moving up. Specifically one thing he mentioned was the power differences.

 

http://www.motorraci...x?SubSeriesID=2

 

Johnson, Gordon, and Stewart have 12 of the last Cups and have participated sparingly in Nationwide though TS did a few years with 12 races. He had no wins in Nationwide pre-Cup and didn't get his first until 2005.



#1932 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 14:03

I would like to see Montoya stay in NASCAR, and go for a full season in Nationwide.  I think he could get a slam-dance winner of a car in N'wide which would meet his criteria of a winning car.  Maybe that way he could show the world he can race stock cars.

 

To me N'wide is on a par with just about any other racing series where he could hope to get a winning ride.

 

I doubt it will happen and Montoya would be willing to step down to Nationwide.But I agree with you, I would love to see him say "F*** it, I'm doing Nationwide and I'm going for the title" and get the #22 drive. That would be cool. I rather see that than see him return to IndyCars, there's something with IndyCar these days that just doesn't appeal to me personally. 



#1933 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 14:07

He'd make as much money in Nationwide as Indycar, so yeah if he could get the 22 or equivalent car why the hell not. Who's replacing Vickers at Gibbs...



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Posted 29 August 2013 - 14:33

Allmendinger offered ride with JTG Daugherty: AJ Allmendinger has an offer to drive the #47 JTG Daugherty NASCAR Sprint Cup car in 2014. Team owner Tad Geschickter confirmed to FOXSports.com a full-time deal had been offered to Allmendinger. The driver confirmed JTGD's proposal late Wednesday night. Allmendinger, 31, has competed in NASCAR, IndyCar and Grand-Am this season. With his experience in a variety of different series and manufacturers, JTGD brought Allmendinger in for the Michigan June race to provide a second opinion on what areas the needed improvement with the car mechanical, aerodynamic or engine. At that time, the team's current driver Bobby Labonte was 27th in the standings. Although Geschickter has offered Labonte a position within the company, the 49-year-old former Cup champion told FOXSports.com on Aug. 24 that he had not made a decision regarding his 2014 plans.(Fox Sports)(8-29-2013)

 

So I guess if a full-time deal can't be worked with an IndyCar team, Allmendinger has this to fall back on.


Edited by Dilla, 29 August 2013 - 14:36.


#1935 discover23

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 14:35

JPM should do Nationwide if the opportunity is there and try and win some freaking races for a chance..



#1936 grackle

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 14:49

Bobby Labonte broke three ribs biking.

grack



#1937 John B

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 17:43

He (Labonte) can watch the races with his old Gibbs teammate and fellow past champ Smoke.

 

The question is which team will pick up JPM for the Cup road races?


Edited by John B, 29 August 2013 - 17:43.


#1938 Myrvold

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 19:42

The question is which team will pick up JPM for the Cup road races?

JPM & JV fighting as Road Ringers. Oh my!



#1939 Dilla

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 19:47

It's not happening in Cup, at least not in competitive rides.



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#1940 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 20:38

Yeah it's Levine Family Racing and such.



#1941 Dilla

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 20:55

AJ Allmendinger accepts three year deal with JTG Racing.

 


CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- AJ Allmendinger will become the full-time driver of the No. 47 Sprint Cup car for JTG Daugherty Racing in 2014, sources told ESPN.com on Thursday.

 

Allmendinger has accepted a three-year deal to replace Bobby Labonte, who has been in the car since 2011. A formal announcement is expected Saturday at Atlanta Motor Speedway, where Allmendinger will drive the 47 in Sunday's Cup race.

 

Allmendinger began a five-race schedule in the 47 this summer at Michigan as the organization sought to improve performance. In three races for JTG Daugherty, Allmendinger has an average finish of 17th, compared to 27.7 for Labonte.

 

Allmendinger was the full-time driver of the No. 22 Cup car for Penske Racing a year ago before violating NASCAR's substance abuse policy and being suspended. He ultimately completed the "Road To Recovery'' program but in the process was released by Penske.

 

He has since won two Nationwide Series road-course races for Penske, competed in the Indianapolis 500 for Penske, driven the No. 51 Phoenix Racing Cup car part-time as well as the JTG Daugherty car.

Allmendinger gave JTG Daugherty its first top 10 of the 2013 season at Watkins Glen, where he finished 10th.

 

http://espn.go.com/r...augherty-racing


Edited by Dilla, 29 August 2013 - 20:55.


#1942 montoyasminion

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 21:24

I'm surprised AJ didn't hold out for an Indycar ride. Guess Penske told him full-time wasn't going to happen, either that or he prefers to race for 15th - 25th in nascar.

#1943 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 21:31

He can have good runs in that car and make a **** ton of money, and possibly get a better ride later. 



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Posted 30 August 2013 - 17:59

Busch, Harvick, Stewart could make for some interesting team meetings.

 

Kurt Busch if my favorite driver, but a part of me hopes that when he does wreck those two are caught up in it as well.  Everyone has bad weekends, might as well make interesting TV for us.

 

Glad to see Kyle Larson moving up.  As was already said, look at Jimmie Johnson.  There's a chance the Cup car will suit him better, and I believe he is more talented than others that have been moved up quick.



#1945 Jim Thurman

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 18:25

Stewart hired Harvick simply to have someone that has some fighting skills...since, historically, Tony sucks at it! :lol:



#1946 Dilla

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 18:43

Piquet has a new sponsor from the past days of NASCAR.

 

http://www.turnersco.../30Puzzle-4.jpg

 

Chicagoland.



#1947 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 01:47

https://soundcloud.c...-just-rips-into



#1948 Dilla

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 04:01

Almirola, Ambrose set to return to RPM: The paperwork hasn't cleared yet but #43-Aric Almirola and #9-Marcos Ambrose both expect to be with Richard Petty Motorsports next season, the drivers told Popular Speed on Saturday at Atlanta Motor Speedway. "That's the plan," Almirola said. "We're real close on finishing everything. The continuity of keeping everything the same and working with this team and (crew chief) Todd Parrott will be a huge advantage. All the guys on this team do a good job and they understand these cars and what it takes to make them go faster." When asked about his plans for next season, Ambrose simply took a sip of water and pointed down at his hauler and said 'right here.' During a season where drivers are changing seats at rapid-fire pace, both RPM pilots emphasized the importance for the team to establish some continuity from season-to-season.(Popular Speed)(8-31-2013)


#1949 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 14:26

 

Whoa I didn't realize there was that much bad blood between them.

 

As far as I can tell, SABCO fielded the #40 for Kenny's debut season in Cup where he finished 3rd in the ROTY standings behind Jeff Gordon and B-Lab.

 

I have to agree that Herm is not a good driver in NASCAR.  But damn, Sabates' claws are out.

 

Having said that, I think Kenny is right.  He actually expressed himself really well and spoke clearly and rationally.

 

I think Sabates going to Kenny's employer and crying that he's biased is pretty lame.


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#1950 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 15:09

If this was last year, I think the junk cars comment would have some basis. But they don't have junk cars and really never have. They've had ups and downs. 2009, 2010, and this year show they can run well actually.

 

I don't expect Kyle Larson to be in the top 20 in points. Look at who's 20-25 this year(exclude guys who have had partial schedules or injuries) and he'd be doing well to be in that group.

 

But I think Kenny was just doing his usual soundbite stupidity. And while Felix did freak out and throw his purse it was entertaining and I don't mind seeing Wallace as the victim.