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#2151 loki

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 18:47

I think NASCAR is changing.

 

As more foreign drives come into the series, more rednecks fans leave the sport.

 

NASCAR has to balance this equation.

Not even close to reality.    There are few non US drivers in all three touring series as a whole and in Cup there only a couple of regulars, Montoya and Ambrose and they've been around for a few years.  The southern base backlash was when drivers like Gordon and Johnson, non southern urban types started gaining traction.  At look at the TV nubmers will indicate that by far NASCAR is much more popular in the south particularly in smaller markets.    It's a myth that the southern fan base is leaving in great numbers.  



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#2152 V3TT3L

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 19:16

I saw some ARCA races vids and there are - sometimes - 1/3 of drivers with latin names there [Mex + SAmerican], foreign or american born.

 

For sure I'll be following ARCA more now that Ashley Rogero has filled for the D4D program.

 

Got a tour of JGR today, and was fortunate to meet some awesome people including Coach Gibbs himself! pic.twitter.com/0RtOTX8a8Z



#2153 V3TT3L

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 20:28

Dale Jr. pole at Dover  :eek:



#2154 SR388

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 23:52

Someone who isn't me needs to make a thread. I nominate V3TT3L. Either that or I will boo him!



#2155 Andrew Hope

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 00:02

Someone who isn't me needs to make a thread. I nominate V3TT3L. Either that or I will boo him!

Dat avatar.



#2156 SR388

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:31

Dat avatar.

 

I bet it has your panties all damp.  :cool:



#2157 Andrew Hope

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:37

If I ever go to a NASCAR race I'm growing a 'stache just like that. Then I'll laugh at the idea of how standing outside the gates to Watkins Glen I just look like a pedophile but 10 feet beyond the turnstile everyone would just say "Oh, the Jeff Gordon look".



#2158 SR388

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:40

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#2159 SR388

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 17:51

How many times will they say, "Dover is a self cleaning track"?



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#2160 SR388

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 19:09

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#2161 gm914

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 19:16

That's a cool looking shirt :up:  



#2162 SR388

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 19:23

That's a cool looking shirt :up:  

 

Yep, marked down to $10. 



#2163 Andrew Hope

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 20:45

Yep, marked down to $10. 

Racism!



#2164 V3TT3L

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 22:16

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#2165 Myrvold

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 22:57

Just ordered this:

 

 

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But no. Only sending inside the US... So, no t-shirt i Norway! 



#2166 Andrew Hope

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 23:45

That's a great idea. Take a name impossible for anyone to spell and put it in a font impossible for anyone to read.



#2167 gm914

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 00:20

I'm no seamstress, but I'd be concerned about the quality of a garment when the t-shirt in the concept art has a loose thread by the armpit on the right. 

Or is that considered the "cool thing" now?  



#2168 Myrvold

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:27

That's a great idea. Take a name impossible for anyone to spell and put it in a font impossible for anyone to read.

 

 

I'm no seamstress, but I'd be concerned about the quality of a garment when the t-shirt in the concept art has a loose thread by the armpit on the right. 

Or is that considered the "cool thing" now?  

Mwhaha!  :clap: 

I was more "Darnit, why do "all" only send inside the US", but hey, you both make good points! ;D



#2169 loki

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 02:16

I saw some ARCA races vids and there are - sometimes - 1/3 of drivers with latin names there [Mex + SAmerican], foreign or american born.

 

For sure I'll be following ARCA more now that Ashley Rogero has filled for the D4D program.

 

Got a tour of JGR today, and was fortunate to meet some awesome people including Coach Gibbs himself! pic.twitter.com/0RtOTX8a8Z

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised to seem more Mexicans and Brazilians in the sport as they too have a racing culture. There's also a NASCAR Mexican series.  Besides, a sizable chunk of the US was once Mexico so it's more like they're returning home...    :cat:  For all intents and purposes they could be considered locals particularly when FL and the southwestern US are factored into the equation.  For a lot of the kids around here football is futbol.  In our neighborhood there is more FIFA or Chivas than NFL.

 

Rogero has been tearing it up in karting.  She might be the first women to come to stock cars and have a shot at a championship. She's still young and it's early but she's got potential.  Sabre Cook is another but I don't know that she's interested in circle track as much as road racing.  They both should be racing at the SuperKarts USA Supernationals in Vegas in November. Good seats still available...   :cool:



#2170 gm914

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 16:43

Marty Reid out at ESPN:  

ESPN says motorsports announcer Marty Reid is no longer with the network. Reid had been with ESPN since 1982 and is the only television play-by-play announcer to cover five different North American motorsports series. 

He's called NASCAR's Sprint Cup, Nationwide and Truck Series, as well as IndyCar and NHRA. An ESPN spokesman says the network is going in a different direction and Allen Bestwick will call the remainder of the Nationwide Series races this season. Reid was the network's lead announcer for IndyCar and that position will be addressed later. 

Reid erred during the Sept. 21 Nationwide Series race at Kentucky when he called the win for Ryan Blaney one lap shy of the finish. Bestwick called Saturday's race at Dover instead of Reid. (courtesy: Jayski) 

 

Bit harsh, no? 



#2171 gm914

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 16:47

Also, Myrvold you have a PM. 



#2172 Andrew Hope

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 16:51

Marty Reid out at ESPN:

ESPN says motorsports announcer Marty Reid is no longer with the network. Reid had been with ESPN since 1982 and is the only television play-by-play announcer to cover five different North American motorsports series. 

He's called NASCAR's Sprint Cup, Nationwide and Truck Series, as well as IndyCar and NHRA. An ESPN spokesman says the network is going in a different direction and Allen Bestwick will call the remainder of the Nationwide Series races this season. Reid was the network's lead announcer for IndyCar and that position will be addressed later. 

Reid erred during the Sept. 21 Nationwide Series race at Kentucky when he called the win for Ryan Blaney one lap shy of the finish. Bestwick called Saturday's race at Dover instead of Reid. (courtesy: Jayski) 

 

Bit harsh, no? 

I won't pretend he didn't mostly suck, but if that's what he lost his job over that's ****ing weak. Because Allen Bestwick doesn't screw up every week either, right? Like all commentators do?



#2173 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 17:15

Marty Reid out at ESPN:

ESPN says motorsports announcer Marty Reid is no longer with the network. Reid had been with ESPN since 1982 and is the only television play-by-play announcer to cover five different North American motorsports series. 

He's called NASCAR's Sprint Cup, Nationwide and Truck Series, as well as IndyCar and NHRA. An ESPN spokesman says the network is going in a different direction and Allen Bestwick will call the remainder of the Nationwide Series races this season. Reid was the network's lead announcer for IndyCar and that position will be addressed later. 

Reid erred during the Sept. 21 Nationwide Series race at Kentucky when he called the win for Ryan Blaney one lap shy of the finish. Bestwick called Saturday's race at Dover instead of Reid. (courtesy: Jayski) 

 

Bit harsh, no? 

 

Yeah that was pretty bad.


Edited by OfficeLinebacker, 30 September 2013 - 17:17.


#2174 Jim Thurman

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 18:47

I won't pretend he didn't mostly suck, but if that's what he lost his job over that's ****ing weak. Because Allen Bestwick doesn't screw up every week either, right? Like all commentators do?

 

Being ESPN, they were looking for a reason, any reason, to terminate.

 

...or, Reid was secretly managing a driver that he was talking up. Hey, it happened once before  ;)



#2175 Option1

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 19:08

Reads like there was something else going on behind the scenes with Marty Reid, and they were looking for an excuse. 

 

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#2176 gm914

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 19:15

Yep it has to be. Afterall, we hear DW sodomize the English language enough in the booth, and he just gets rewarded more air time.    30 years. Hope he finds another gig at least. 

 

Here's some Marty fails-


Edited by gm914, 30 September 2013 - 19:24.


#2177 Andrew Hope

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 20:13

Didn't he do the whole "And so and so wins!" deal on the 2nd to last lap of the race earlier in the year too? Like I said, not sad to see him go. But I think you guys are right in saying it's some behind-the-scene shizz going down.

 

Commentating seems like a weird gig. You have to tow the company line more than you have to be good. And even if you're good, half the fans will still hate you. We should just do our own commentary. Me and gm and a few other guys. Ross Stonefeld grid walks, OLB with an occasional Montoyawatch feature. We could do an homage to Marty Reid where every couple laps during a 500-lapper at Martinsville one of us will get all excited like it's the last lap.

 

"..and after a day of trouble in the pits, Greg Biffle is going to come through to win lap 138 of 500!"



#2178 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 20:17

I want to be the Third Man in a proper commentary team. And totally NOT play The Game.



#2179 gm914

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 20:21

We should also have Kyle Petty in the booth, but just go.. 

 

 

...every time he opens his gob.  :up:



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 20:33

On a more somber note: Steve Byrnes will be away for the rest of this year. Twitter discussions indicate that he is fighting cancer.



#2181 Andrew Hope

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 21:10

I want to be the Third Man in a proper commentary team. And totally NOT play The Game.

Ah, the Dallenbach role.



#2182 Jim Thurman

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 21:31

I want to be the Third Man in a proper commentary team. And totally NOT play The Game.

 

You'd set a record for shortest stint. If you were aggresive about it, you could probably disappear at the first commercial break.

"We're sorry to report that our new commentator, Ross, had a sudden emergency and had to leave us..." :D


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#2183 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 22:33

I like Kyle Petty a lot, I think he's honest 8 times out of 10. He does do the 'our sport' and other stuff I'm not a fan of, but on balance I'd keep him. I like Dallenbah too, whether NASCAR or Indycar.

 

On combined score I think Bestwick/Jarrett/Petree are the best. The latter two will call BS if it's too out of line.



#2184 Andrew Hope

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 23:56

After so many years of Bob Jenkins I'd be willing to settle for anyone calling IndyCar races just using their normal, boring voice. The whole "I'm a commentator so I have to talk like this" bugs the shit out of me. At least it's tolerable in baseball.



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Posted 01 October 2013 - 00:59

You'd set a record for shortest stint. If you were aggresive about it, you could probably disappear at the first commercial break.
"We're sorry to report that our new commentator, Ross, had a sudden emergency and had to leave us..." :D

hey, I want the tech shit so I cut cars and engines into little bitty pieces.
Seriously, y'all should do a skype sorta gig and sell it.
My advice, sign a 20 race deal, by this time of the season everyone but about 5 teams are in stroke it mode. Why bother with being there?

#2186 V3TT3L

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 04:17

I guess the NASCAR track attendance will go down a bit more after the US shutdown  :( meh

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 13:29

Yep it has to be. Afterall, we hear DW sodomize the English language enough in the booth, and he just gets rewarded more air time.    30 years. Hope he finds another gig at least. 

 

Here's some Marty fails-

Wow that was really painful to watch.  I guess he needed a break.



#2188 gm914

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 21:05

Larson in a Target Chevy next week in Cup. 

 

Earnhardt Ganassi Racing with Felix Sabates (EGR) announced that young driving sensation, Kyle Larson, will make his NASCAR Sprint Cup Series (NSCS) debut for Team Target in the Phoenix Racing #51 Target Chevy at Charlotte Motor Speedway on Oct. 12. In addition, he will run the NSCS race in Martinsville in the #51 Target Chevy on Oct. 27. (Jayski) 



#2189 Jim Thurman

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 22:52

Wow that was really painful to watch.  I guess he needed a break.

 

There used to be a website that had audio files taken off of the raw satellite of Bob Jenkins' bewilderment during the breaks of IRL races. Usually it was him saying: "I have absolutely no idea who's leading" or something similar.

 

My first thought was, if this was what they did with Reid, how did Jenkins survive so long with them?  ...or Paul Page?



#2190 Andrew Hope

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 22:56

So what's the deal with guys like that? My understanding is that a lot of commentators pursue that career in the hopes of covering a certain sport and for whatever reason get shunted sideways into something they don't care about.



#2191 V3TT3L

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 22:58

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NASCAR Fines Piquet For Twitter Comment

Piquet directed what can best be described as a homophobic comment toward fellow driver Parker Kligerman on Twitter recently.



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NASCAR Fines Piquet For Twitter Comment

Piquet directed what can best be described as a homophobic comment toward fellow driver Parker Kligerman on Twitter recently.

 

That must surely be a 5th amendment issue and not something NASCAR could or should concern themselves with?

 

:cool:



#2193 V3TT3L

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 23:17

Looks like Piquet has been a naughty boy on Twitter:

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It's been deleted since.

I wonder if this twitt is related  :confused:

 

Funny how people can be so fake. 1day there drunk screaming like a girl on the poker table, the next there in TV bad mouthing the others.



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 00:12

That must surely be a 5th amendment issue and not something NASCAR could or should concern themselves with?

 

:cool:

 

No. Wouldn't be protected by the First Amendment either. NASCAR(or any sports league) can fine you for saying stupid things



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 00:24

I'm pretty sure Piquet was joking, and that's how Kligerman reacted. They pick on each other a lot on Twitter.



#2196 SR388

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:07

That must surely be a 5th amendment issue and not something NASCAR could or should concern themselves with?

 

:cool:

 

What does a tweet have to do with the abuse of government authority? 



#2197 V3TT3L

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 03:29

Maybe Piquet was right. Klingerman wanted to buy a Miata.  :p

 

This car is for sale. Realized it's an automatic. If u buy this car as an automatic. U are doing it wrong @Jalopnik pic.twitter.com/6T9niHaaOO

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#2198 Andrew Hope

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 03:37

Anything that looks like a Miata, or is a Miata, brings completely due ridicule on the owner of said car.

 

Just ask Greg:

 

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 04:21

Anything that looks like a Miata, or is a Miata, brings completely due ridicule on the owner of said car.

 

 

Don't be hatin' on the sporty ride... :stoned:

 

Ironically known for a chick car on the street on the track Spec Miata is the most subscribed class in club road racing in the US.  At the SCCA Runoffs a couple weeks back 69 took the green.  They drive a lot like a shifter kart...

 



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#2200 Jim Thurman

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 05:15

So what's the deal with guys like that? My understanding is that a lot of commentators pursue that career in the hopes of covering a certain sport and for whatever reason get shunted sideways into something they don't care about.

 

It used to be (as my older brother put it) the guy who drew the short straw had to do the auto racing. It was that low a priority with broadcasters. Yet, some were true pros and would make the effort, i.e. Keith Jackson, Charlie Jones, Al Michaels. Eventually, networks actually hired people with, like, experience, knowledge and interest in racing: Bob Jenkins, Paul Page. I don't know all of Reid's background. Sometimes it worked even the other way. Bob Varsha was a marathon runner who covered running events when he got assigned to do racing. After some ridiculous embarrassment (every crash, no matter how minor was "Dreadful" or "horrific"), he learned and learned to love the sport.

 

You're right though, you pretty much go or wind up where they send you. Adapt or die (or wish you would).