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#51 Rob

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 15:59

Alonso: "I've a lot of respect for Lewis, he's probably the best or one of the best here." The bromance continues!

It makes you wonder if we'll ever see them as team mates again.

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#52 oligc94

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 16:02

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Has anybody got some high-res copies of these two moments? I'm desperate for a new wallpaper! :up:

#53 jrg19

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 16:26

Has anybody got some high-res copies of these two moments? I'm desperate for a new wallpaper! :up:


http://www.sopapelde...aper-2008-9.jpg

Different angle, dont know if thats big enough.

#54 speng

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 17:40

I just rewatched the US GP again and it cannot be understated how good Hamilton raced.

#55 eronrules

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 18:59

now it's official, Lewis hamilton will be back to mclaren ... :p

Reuters: Hamilton Tells Mclaren ... i'll be back

#56 f1fastestlap

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 19:06

now it's official, Lewis hamilton will be back to mclaren ... :p

Reuters: Hamilton Tells Mclaren ... i'll be back


... for lunch and dinner :cool:

#57 oligc94

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 19:11

http://www.sopapelde...aper-2008-9.jpg

Different angle, dont know if thats big enough.


Thanks :clap:

#58 eronrules

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 19:14

... for lunch and dinner :cool:


it remains to be seen if he'd like the food prepared according to Button's input :lol:

under-stirred shakes mexican chilli beans

Edited by eronrules, 22 November 2012 - 19:16.


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 19:15

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#60 jrg19

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 19:17

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#61 10e10

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 19:22

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One of the best moments for me.


:up: Great moment!

#62 Nahnever

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 20:23

Fellow Lewis fans, what would you prefer? Lewis wins the last race at Brazil, or one of Mercedes drivers winning it; giving some promise of pace next year?

I can't decide lol. :well:

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#63 10e10

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 20:26

Fellow Lewis fans, what would you prefer? Lewis wins the last race at Brazil, or one of Mercedes drivers winning it; giving some promise of pace next year?

I can't decide lol. :well:


Lewis winning it!

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#64 dans79

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 20:39

Fellow Lewis fans, what would you prefer? Lewis wins the last race at Brazil, or one of Mercedes drivers winning it; giving some promise of pace next year?

I can't decide lol. :well:


Lewis first, Schumacher second, Alonso 3rd, Vettel DNF. :rotfl:

#65 Nahnever

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 20:41

Lewis first, Schumacher second, Alonso 3rd, Vettel DNF. :rotfl:

Yes lol. Lewis winning it but only due to his skills rather that superior race pace :cool:

#66 10e10

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 21:14

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#67 Moore

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 21:17

Lewis Winning it of course, I wouldn't mind a Mclaren 1-2 tbh, that'd be a great send off present... Also wouldn't mind Schumi in 3rd place.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 21:23

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"Are you not entertained?!"

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#69 oligc94

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 21:26

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'Come at me then!'

That's what I always think when I see these photos. It's such an emphatic gesture - wish he did it more often! :up:

#70 Obi Offiah

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 21:43

"Are you not entertained?!"

:lol: :up:

#71 Coral

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 22:19

"Are you not entertained?!"

:up: :up: :up:

My favourite film of all time! :clap:

#72 robefc

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 23:10

"Are you not entertained?!"


:up: :lol:

Brilliant!

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 23:51

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Thanks a tonne dude. I just went and re watched those races. Nostalgia :(

Edited by akshay380, 22 November 2012 - 23:52.


#74 eronrules

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 00:05

guys ... you know , he'll be racing next year, it's not like he's taking a sabbatical or anything, so quit mourning. He's not at Merc yet, and Merc hasn't proven to be a donkey yet either. if Merc can produce a car akin to the start of this year (i.e 70~80% of RB9) then lewis will have a good chance of being in the podium and in the points. look at Kimi this year, you need a solid and reliable car. not a rocketship that breaks down all the time.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 00:30

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 00:40

Ron snubs Lewis party

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#77 robefc

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 00:46

Ron snubs Lewis party

:down:


Interesting if the stuff about the fall our around the Italian GP is true, certainly starts to make some sense of Lewis's mood that weekend and his eventual decision.

Beyond throwing his toys out of the pram and refusing to give in to XIX's or Lewis's demands not sure exactly what he could done that was so major though? Maybe he gave Lewis a take it or leave it offer believing he wouldn't go to mercedes.

Edited by robefc, 23 November 2012 - 00:47.


#78 SirT

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 00:54

You mean this bit?


The latest developments reveal how sour relations between Dennis and Hamilton have become. At the centre of the fall-out is a row that is so serious that senior figures at McLaren have closed ranks to keep the matter secret.

It is understood the incident, probably dating back to the summer when Hamilton’s representatives were negotiating his future, may be embarrassing for Dennis if details emerge.

A senior figure within Formula One, who asked not to be named, said: ‘I do know what has happened. Everyone makes mistakes and Ron made a mistake. Everything went pear-shaped and I don’t think it would be fair to say any more than that.’


Sure is interesting!



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Posted 23 November 2012 - 01:45

Ron Dennis is so completely inept.

And he is not even going to Brazil for Hamilton's final race. That's a third snub.

Edited by halifaxf1fan, 23 November 2012 - 03:46.


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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:03

Found this quote from March 2008 while digging in older threads about Lewis.

Ive kept my mouth shut on these forums for quite a while but i feel something needs to be said about hamilton. The way hes justed sailed into a mclaren drive and into the best car of the last two seasons pisses me off. Most other drivers suffer for years waiting for a drive of the calibre of a mclaren (webber, heidfeld and others) while this guy gets his ass plonked into a championship capable mclaren, instead of a crappy old minardi or jordan or whatever the hell they want to be called. and i dont think hes that good, give webber or heidfeld that mclaren i garuantee you he wins you that championship, while hamilton totally stuffs his chances last year as well as alonso's with all the piss poor timing of an english batsman. Get this guy out of mclaren and into a super aguri where he belongs. After all its how u perform in a crappy car that really shows what sort of driver u are. eg senna in a toleman. Any old hack can be given a front running car and win races (eddie irvine anyone). hes had it really easy and id like to see him given a lower car so i can see that smirk wiped off his face.
PS did anyone see how he pushed heidfeld of the top step of the podium after the pictures, (what a tool)


http://forums.autosp...howtopic=100033

Staggering, the amount of hate Lewis received!

#81 Watkins74

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:11

Found this quote from March 2008 while digging in older threads about Lewis.

http://forums.autosp...howtopic=100033

Staggering, the amount of hate Lewis received!

You kind find all kinds of hate against every top driver in today's posts. Why bother hunting through 2008?

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 06:13

Ron snubs Lewis party

:down:


Extremely sad if even half the details are true. Given that he definitely did not join in the victory celebrations /pictures (compare and contrast with Canada this year), I guess it's likely to be correct about how he still is bitter as hell. :(

Also, if we're doing 'hats off to Lewis at McLaren', this is one of my favourite pictures, from Germany 2011. Probably because it was a year in which he struggled so much by his standards, all his race wins that year felt very emotional somehow.

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#83 Lazy

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 06:36

It's becoming increasingly clear that it was Dennis who pushed Lewis out rather than Whitmarsh.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 06:41

No-one pushed him out. Hamilton didn't want to re-sign.

#85 jjcale

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 06:56

It's becoming increasingly clear that it was Dennis who pushed Lewis out rather than Whitmarsh.

The pushing out started before the contract negotiations started .... and IMO LH did much of the damage to himself in 2011 ... its hard to come back from stuff like going to Horner (presumably to ask for a job) in such a public way in Canada(?) that year.... but yeah it might have been Ron who administered the coup de grace.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:02

The pushing out started before the contract negotiations started .... and IMO LH did much of the damage to himself in 2011 ... its hard to come back from stuff like going to Horner (presumably to ask for a job) in such a public way in Canada(?) that year.... but yeah it might have been Ron who administered the coup de grace.


Agreed.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:29

Alonso: "I've a lot of respect for Lewis, he's probably the best or one of the best here." The bromance continues!

I think, only after they have been racing against each other in different cars they come to realise the strength of each other and have a great respect for each other. Not only for both of them but also for most of their fans...

#88 eronrules

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:35

Found this quote from March 2008 while digging in older threads about Lewis.



http://forums.autosp...howtopic=100033

Staggering, the amount of hate Lewis received!



not much different from current Vettel bashing or Fernando bashing back in 05/06

#89 JRizzle86

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:41

It's becoming increasingly clear that it was Dennis who pushed Lewis out rather than Whitmarsh.


Pretty sure Lewis and his management chose not to re-sign at their own doing.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:51

Pretty sure Lewis and his management chose not to re-sign at their own doing.


Ofc, but why?

#91 eronrules

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:52

just saw the press conf. is it me or lewis's eyes were tearing up while answering his first question???



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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:59

Ofc, but why?

Probably because of the stellar team performance.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:10

I think Ron is a big cuddly teddy bear and he's hurting. Lewis was his adopted younger son. Ron it appears does not agree with the justification given by Lewis for leaving the team and believes it's about contract terms rather than a new challenge. I think he finds that very difficult to be happy about and celebrate it. Can't really blame him. Privately, I hope they have had 'the chat' and I hope Lewis has initiated it.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:15

Ron Dennis is so completely inept.

And he is not even going to Brazil for Hamilton's final race. That's a third snub.


It's a classic political chess move by an ego-maniac like Ron Dennis to show that drivers are not bigger than the team. OR it could be that Ron has the type of personality that rather withdraws from emotions rather than face them.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:18

I think Ron is a big cuddly teddy bear and he's hurting. Lewis was his adopted younger son. Ron it appears does not agree with the justification given by Lewis for leaving the team and believes it's about contract terms rather than a new challenge. I think he finds that very difficult to be happy about and celebrate it. Can't really blame him. Privately, I hope they have had 'the chat' and I hope Lewis has initiated it.


As was suggested much earlier, I think it is a bit like leaving home to become your own person. I have a friend who worked for McLaren and he also left because he couldn't take the dictatorship. We have all probably gone through the situation where you think that your parents are dictating, what you wear, what time you come in etc. etc. and we all need to break that bond in order to find ourselves.
I hope Lewis finds happiness and is allowed to build a good "marriage" with Merc which gradually develops an even stronger bond and leads to more wins and then more titles.

Personally I am looking forward to watching this development over the next few years without the "need" to win from race one. Less presure = more enjoyment????

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:23

Personally I am looking forward to watching this development over the next few years without the "need" to win from race one. Less presure = more enjoyment????


Me too. I think you can still have a great season without being a front runner. Just look at Kimi. He has had a midfield car this year but his performance further decorated him as worthy champion. Likewise Lewis' performance in 2009 really showed what he is made out of.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:53

I just rewatched the US GP again and it cannot be understated how good Hamilton raced.


Wow! I did exactly the same yesterday and thought the same thing. There is no doubt that Vettel drove a fantastic race too mind.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:55

Me too. I think you can still have a great season without being a front runner. Just look at Kimi. He has had a midfield car this year but his performance further decorated him as worthy champion. Likewise Lewis' performance in 2009 really showed what he is made out of.

Yes but it's frustrating to think that at the end of 2013, Fred & Seb probably will be on 3 WDC each and Lewis still with only 1, fighting for a podium here & there with the silver grey donkey :(
A driver with Lewis talent deserves so much more

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:55

Have to say after this season, I have grown towards Lewis tremendously, he has driven fantastically and shown true spirit and maturity.

The respect between himself and Alonso is also good to see, and shows that the issues in 07 were between Alonso on Dennis, as he stated before.

It would be great to see Lewis do well over the next few years at Merc.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:06

That article about Dennis and Hamilton was interesting, very interesting. Thanks for posting it. I'm beginning to see where some of the pressure on Whitmarsh is coming from. Some of the things he's said recently have been out of chracter for him I feel. He was such a breath of fresh air at McLaren when he took over from Ron Dennis but this year, especially during and after the contract discussions, he's been out of characer for me. I wonder wat strings Ron is pulling behind the scenes.

Dennis is not inept though and certainly not an idiot. He has been exceptionally successful and has built McLaren up to be quite something in terms of a race team, rsearch and development, electronics specialists, and car compay. There was an excellent article in a recent issue of Motorsport about Dennis and when I read it, many times in fact, I was in awe of what he has achieved. You may not like his style or even like him but he has been more successful in his chosen field than anyone on this forum for sure.