Well in order how would those business dudes get to the CBD,do they live there? There goes an hour,plus.Who says the HST is gonna be at the CBD .
A lot of "business dudes" do live in the city.
Tell me, does that hour magically disappear if they have to get to the plane?
If they are on the south side of Melbourne that means extra travelling to get to the airport. But for those in the north of Melbourne the proposal is that there will be a train station near the airport, so it won't cost them any extra time getting to the train compared to getting to the airport.
If it is going to be at the CBD of Melbourne and Sydney,factor in a few more gazillions of infrastructure.This is the difference between planning and dreaming.
The train stations are already there - in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne, and they are already serviced by interstate trains. There is no major infrastructure there. HSTs like the TGV use standard gauge rail, so they will operate on the existing lines in and out of the city.
The estimates that have been put forward do include capital works for the stations in other areas where there may not be the facilities now.
Practical people are sidelined at postmodern bigpicture planning as they are seen as negative and/or boring.The show ponies want to emerge with a message of peace,love incense and bells for the media....and nothing is allowed to stop that...even reality or common sense.
Being "negative and boring" is not the same as being practical.
HST systems have shown to be practical by numerous studies. As Joe said the only reason we don't have it is we haven't had the political will.
Common sense tells us that Sydney airport is already running at near capacity. It has no space for upgrades, and has serious operating restrictions. That means a new airport is required. The NSW government has been trying for that one for years. The cost of a new airport would be approximately 1/5-1/4 of the proposed HSR network.
Part 2 ...funding !!! sheesh wuzie boy you're economics are as bad as your engineering.
I have not done any engineering here. Others have already done the preliminary work - several times.
There's no Magic Pudding,and errr since GST State funding IS Federal funding,which is now at 10%
The state governments do receive GST from the federal government, but they are not required to spend it in any certain way. They have their health budgets, education budgets and infrastructure budgets - which includes road and rail.
The Federal government also assists the state governments for projects such as road building by providing funds other than the GST for that specific purpose.
but because so many people have cottoned onto participating in the black economy ,Federal revenues are falling,
I can't say as to whether the "black economy" is any bigger or smaller than it used to be. But, ironically, that is one of the reasons used to justify the GST.
The federal budget is more susceptible to swings in the economy than any upturn in the "black economy". The down turn in the mining sector is a case in point.
so any dreamtime HST will get wakeup call.
Who knows, the HST may be part of a future stimulus package. FWIW, the 2008/9 stimulus was AU$40bn, or about 40% of the proposed HST works.
The long-promised divided carriageway for cars and B-Doubles from Sydney to Brisbane is way behind schedule,you are not going to fund a HST for cashed up business pretenders and the occasional tourist with money out of Highway funding for godsakes.
Lets recall that the Sydney-Melbourne-Brisbane air system already deals with approximately 10m passengers per year just on those routes. A HST network must be part of Australia's future transport needs on the east coast. If you get the HST operating you will probably reduce the demand on the interstate freeways. Running passengers on the HST will free up the rest of the rail network and, possibly, allow the freight system to operate more efficiently and cost effectively. If that is the case then more freight can be taken by rail and there won't be as many big trucks on the roads, meaning less need for road upgrades.