First,a second airport in southwest Sydney WOULD relieve air traffic congestion at Mascot.Whether that should be done is obviously another debate.
So, if the passenger traffic doubles in the next 30-40 years, as predicted, and Sydney has 2 airports that would leave us in much the same position as now.
Secondly,my anecdotal on the "surprises" in final engineering/construction means to say, in boring,tedious detail ,that even though in the case of the mandated,funded,designed route of a divided carriageway of 110km/h limit from Sydney to Gold Coast,the actual route and cost are not known with much accuracy at sign-up.OK .Good thing about a road, you can start,build it piecemeal,take as long as you like,it gets used.Not ideal,but seems to be best we can do in Australia.Can't see how this modus operandi could achieve a HSR though.So it has to be designed,funded and built in the quickest manner possible.And in an honest and competent manner.The fact that a portion of the voters and politicians think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread is NOT a valid point in it's favour. They reveal their lack of knowledge about an enterprise they so passionately call for when they say the existing corridor can mainly be used.
Rail can very much be built in stages. For instance, proposals have stage 1 being from Sydney to Canberra, stage 2 extends that down to Melbourne, and so on. The rail could be built quickly, but doesn't have to be.
Not sure if it is "the best we can do in Australia", or a reflection of the need to use the resources building and maintaining other roads. And, no doubt, it reflects on the governments' will.
Third,you miss my point regards "never" constructing a 125 or 200 mph rail line...I am saying "in Australia" we have not done it !!
I didn't miss it - I just don't consider it being that much of an issue. The French did it, having never done it before. The Japanese did it, having never done before.
Note bigleaguesliders images of airliner bodies being transported by train.Typical of what the USA can still do,and what we probably could do in Australia....if we had to.
What, transporting things by rail? That happens every day in Australia.
Making things - we still build cars, there is an aerospace industry (mainly building components). So, what point are you trying to make?
Sadly if we wanted a HST we would import every bit of rolling stock,plus all the other gear we no longer make here.
Not necessarily so. Downer RailUGL RailBradkenBombadier
All make rolling stock for the Australian market.
has a presence in Australia, though not in the manufacture of rolling stock. But they are in heavy engineering, and are a major player in rolling stock worldwide.
Investment in manufacturing in Australia has fallen a lot in the past decade or two. Perhaps a project such as a high speed train could be used to revitalise the sector.
What underpins Australia's desire to have a HST ?
Clearly it for a safe, sustainable, efficient and scalable method of transporting large numbers of passengers.
What do we produce which the rest of the world is begging for?
Obviously minerals,food,possibly education...aah ...and some stuff those business dudes who fill the full price seats on the Sydney_Melbourne flights might like to tell us about?
What does our export markets have to do with anything? High speed rail is mainly about transporting people, not goods.
We can't really fund hundred billion dollar projects in Australia by taxation on us taking in each others' washing,or teaching each others' kids,or running the best restaurant in town...
The high speed rail network development in France is a joint partnership between private enterprise and government. Clearly that is the preferred method here.
Perhaps we can leverage the superannuation industry - after all, that was the idea of superannuation - to invest help build infrastructure projects in Australia. Instead they have basically invested in the markets and lost (in real terms) everybody money.
...especially if the best restaurant in town employs people who pay no tax because the boss likes it that way...he wants to attract those business dudes who just flew in on the company payroll....hmmmm.
Edited by Wuzak, 29 December 2012 - 10:07.