Flatlander is most likely agreeing with you, but just hasn't expressed himself very well. Happens all the time apparently.
No, what I said is clear. You guys seem to have honed your selective reading skills.
From the top for the more resistant strains...
At the end of the 2011 season, Alonso said:
"In fact, at the next winter testing he [Hamilton] will be the only one I'll be watching closely. The other guys can win if they've got the best car; he's the one who's able to clinch a championship with a car that's not the best
As I pointed out, the key part for me is what I highlighted and it is what Alonso SAID
Now, the question is whether or not Alsonso included himself in the part that says "The other guys...". That's entirely possible. I won't apply a probability to it, but it is entirely possible. But, and this is the important part: He did NOT SAY that he included himself or not with "The other guys...". That does NOT appear in the text that we have. You guys want to ASSUME that he was NOT including himself. OK, no problem if that is what you want to believe, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HE SAID.
So, without clear and specific information, how would you know? If we had the complete text of Alonso's interview, perhaps it contains text that would help clarify what he subsequently said. But, so far we don't. We have the preceeding few sentences, but that's about it. Also, as far as I know, none of us was present when that exchange took place.
As I said, it has been my experience that when you cross language barriers, odd things happen. And, this occurs even with people who are quite conversant with the English language. It's quite possible that Alonso's quotes above may have some differences due to language issues. What people tend to miss are the subtleties associated with a non-native language.
Lastly, while Alonso has never struck me as an extremely cultured person, he does seem to have a very respectful and deferential side. Most likely, this is just a part of his Latino background. It is how you make people welcome and comfortable in your presence. As such, you would tend not to single yourself out because it would appear to be boastful and disrespectful. If you want to speculate, that could mean that he would include himself with "The other guys...".
The difference here is between what was actually said and what speculation might indicate was meant or implied. All I'm saying is that I choose NOT to speculate and base my interpretation on what was actually said until such time as we have further information. As for the rest of you, you may speculate at will; just know that unless it is explicitly stated in the text, it is speculation (however probable you believe it to be).
Edited by flatlander48, 15 January 2013 - 15:26.